Episode 295 - The Accountant 2 is number two

[00:00:04] It's time to feel the rage. Welcome to Film Rage where we talk movies, in theaters, streaming and classic films as well. Directors and actors beware as you cannot hide from the rage. My name is Bryson and I'm part of the Film Rage crew which also includes Jim. Hey there Jim. Hey, hey Bryce. And also we have the merman. Yo. How's the merman? Tired. Yeah? Sick and tired or just tired? Just tired. It was a rough weekend. He's tired of waking up.

[00:00:34] I'm tired. Did you make it to the expo thingamabobber? No. Yeah, but I didn't make it to the clown. You didn't make it to the clown in a cornfield? No, I was on three hours sleep on Sunday. Well that's good. I wasn't really functioning. You can watch it with me and Jim when the time comes. Sure. Join the club. It's gonna be so much fun, merman. Yeah, I'm sure. As are we. Yeah. So with the introductions out of the way, let's rage on. Okay, well thanks to all of you and supporting us. If you

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[00:01:30] The amazing mom predict. What would the amazing mom predict? Will he predict the rage or will he predict the mondo? Will he tell you I'll watch him embrace all the movies? Here he comes now, better watch out kids. Cause merman is swimming to you. Swimmery, swimmery. Swimmery swim.

[00:02:01] Swimmery swim. Swimmery swim. Swimmery swim. Swimmery swim. Swimmery swim. Another week, another crap ton of movies. Yes! So much crap. And that's in addition to Cuff. Yes! The back half of Cuff. Yeah. You guys just came from one. We did!

[00:02:23] As I said to Jim, if you guys had picked any other movie on this list to go see tonight, I would have gone with you except this one. Scheduling, my friend. The Accountant 2. Yes! Although, if you look at when it comes up, it's the Accountant squared, which makes no sense. So that's the accountant times the accountant. Who cares? Which, what does that equal? Equals Accountant. I don't know that it does. Whatever. Equals Accountancy.

[00:02:52] I don't get that. I think that's a good power. But then at the end, when the credits are done, it actually says Accountant 2, not Accountant squared. So I'm very confused by all that. It's one of the, one of a few things I have that's a little frustrating, but you can take your prediction. Yeah. Well. I don't know where all that went. I don't know. I've lost a long time ago. But it did have Ben Hooflek. Yeah. Hooflek. Yeah. According to Bryce, the greatest actor of our generation.

[00:03:22] No, no. The greatest actor of mine or anybody else's generation. Right. According to Bryce. Yeah. Of their generation. And Bryce only. Yes. Yes. And Bryce only. I don't know that that's true. I'm sure that's true. I'm pretty sure that's not true. Anyway. It's a sequel. It is a sequel. It's an action movie. It is both of those things. Yes. Even with Jon Barenthal. Yes. Formerly undoubted Jon Barenthal. Yes. I think he's pretty good. I just.

[00:03:51] I don't see you guys getting this to a mondo just because of that. Even as much as Mr. Bryce loves his Ben Affleck. I do love my Ben Affleck. And I do not. Do not. Double meh. Double meh. All right. Until Dawn, which I would have gone to except you guys went to it the exact same time I was meeting Michael J. Fox. No. Screw you guys. He's more important than us for sure. Um. The horror movie. Who's Michael J. Fox? He's an actor.

[00:04:20] He's in Back to the Future. Oh yeah. He's Teen Wolf, right? Teen Wolf. He's Teen Wolf. Exactly. That's right. He was a friender. He was a friender. Why don't you name a movie that people have seen like Secret of My Success? That's right. Secret of My Success. You know what the secret of my success is? Money. That I live 25 hours a day. Wow. That was a theme song. I'm surprised you know that. It was by Night Ranger. I'm surprised you know that. We're never going to get through this podcast. Also starring Helen Slater. We're never going to get through this podcast. Uh, yeah.

[00:04:50] Until Dawn. It's a horror movie, which again, I would have gone to see, but I was busy. Uh, I don't know. I saw the trailer. Had some promise. But even with, uh, what's his name? Stormare in it. Yes. And a bunch of- We love us some Stormare. And a bunch of basic nobodies. There's a few nobodies. Getting killed over and over and over again. Much like the happy death day. It's kind of. Let's just say double rage. Double rage. Interesting.

[00:05:18] Legend of Ochi, which I literally saw the trailer for 10,000 times this weekend. Oh, good. Because before every panel, they would play the same five trailers and that was one of them. Legend of Ochi. Um, Jim loves his sci-fi fantasy. Mm-hmm. Also likes, uh, Mr. Uh, what's his name? Willem Dafoe? That's- I was gonna say Macy, but yeah, the other guy. Willem Macy? Uh, Willem Macy. Yeah.

[00:05:48] Uh, I don't know about Bryce, so let's go Mondo for Jim and meh for Bryce. Meh for Bryce on Legend of Ochi. On Smith Horses, which apparently does feature some horse racing. There is, right? There is some horse racing. Bryce is also fond of them. Yes, he's very fond of them. And it seems like, uh, everybody is having sex with everybody else. Pretty much. They just keep swapping partners. There's a lot of sex. There's a lot of sex. Men, women, men, men, women, women, I don't know. I couldn't keep straight.

[00:06:18] Everybody's everybody. Everybody's in everybody else's bed, my friend. But it's still- The way God intended. I don't know. Still bordering on a rom-com, so let's go double meh for that. All right. And finally, probably the easiest pick of the week. Really? The Shrouds. Oh. I mean, that should be- By Mr. Cronenberg. Yeah, there should be- Who you guys cannot stop gushing about- Yes, we do. Every time his name comes up. We have a sustained Cronenboner, for sure. That's right.

[00:06:48] They don't call us kids of the Cronenberg. I may be wrong, but yeah, double Mondo. Double Mondo. All right. All right. It's like your kind of weird ass movie. That was a pretty damn good- Murray had his- What's that Hufflepuff hat on this week? There was some logic to what he was spewing this week. Well, I had a full day off to recover, so- Nice. I'm more awake now. All right. Well, let's talk about Le Accountant De. Or The Accountant Squared.

[00:07:17] It starts as The Accountant Squared, and then at the end of the movie, it's The Accountant De. It ends with De. They don't use squared in accounting. The Accountant De. Accountants don't use squared. Okay, so- I don't even know where to start with this. I mean, I guess- Just start somewhere. To start, I watched the first one just before watching this new one to get caught up. And to find out, you know, where we were at and remember if I really did in fact like this movie because- I also-

[00:07:47] I did the same thing, Jim. That's usually a rarity with me and Ben Affleck because if he's in a movie, he's usually horrible and the movie's usually also horrible. Now you're just talking silliness, but okay. And in this one, Ben Affleck's cadence is completely different than the first movie. So I was like, okay, I don't know what that's about, but- Same character even? Same character, but he was different. But he's talking different. Talking different. And talking a lot. And his character is completely somewhat changed. Yeah. So there's that. Um, then-

[00:08:19] Yes? How about the Punisher? Yeah, the Punisher. Yeah, that's a whole other story. How the film actually comes together. Um, how the brothers get back together. How the feds are involved. How the convenience of everything. And I'm- I'm not sure if this was trying to be Rain Man meets Bad Boys or if it was Taken 4 meets The X-Men.

[00:08:47] And don't get me started on the whole Roadhouse theme that goes through this movie as well. I'll meet some Roadhouse. The first one was so clever and all made sense. And this, and this, every single thing. And I mean every single thing, Marie, that you have, has you question both time and space as well as what universe does this film even take place in? I remember a time when Jon Barenthal was undoubted. Hmm.

[00:09:17] If he was in a film, it would be a mondo. He made some very good choices. Pretty good choices. Yep. However, if he continues with this series, he could possibly be the first person to make it on both our doubted and undoubted list on Film Rage. This film was ridiculously horrible. And when I say ridiculously horrible, I mean not funny, laugh out loud, ridiculously horrible.

[00:09:42] I mean it's hard to believe that the writer-director of the first one was even involved in this one because it is completely horrible. And it's, it's, it could make my top five worst films of this year. That's all I want to say. Alrighty. Uh, yeah. The Accountant Squared. Duh. Duh. Duh. It's, um, it's a mess.

[00:10:12] Um, nothing makes sense. Everything is so convoluted in it that you're like, what? And it's, it's as if they wrote a bunch of scenes and said, okay, how are we going to connect these? And then came up with some ways that sort of connected them, but not really. We've got kind of a few different stories going on that end up tying together in the end.

[00:10:40] And you're just kind of scratching your head the whole way. The comedy just completely misfires. There's on every level. And you, you look at the first movie, which was such a good movie and so well written. And then the second movie, they decided they were going to do a kind of a buddy comedy for half of it. And then the second part is going to be just an, I guess it's an action movie, but there wasn't that much action. No.

[00:11:09] And that last gunfight is one of the most poorly choreographed gunfights that I've ever seen in my life. Oh, it's horrible. It was a complete mess. I hated this movie. It was so horrible. This was so horrible. There was nothing going on here that was good at all. And how did the writer and director of The Accountant come back eight years late, nine years later, I guess it is, and just make this abomination. Like this is a, just a spinning in the face of the original.

[00:11:39] As you say, the characters aren't even the same. The brothers aren't the same. Neither of them are the same coming back. They've just decided that they were writing a buddy comedy and that's how this is going to be here. Then they forgot to put the comedy in. Then they forgot to put the comedy in. And all the, all the connections they make that are just like unbelievable. And you're kind of scratching your head. Like, why are they inviting these hookers into these, this room? And why is this guy coming in? And how do they know he's connected to anything?

[00:12:05] Oh, of course, they've got a bunch of autistic kids in a room on computers and they can find out anything. Apparently it's such a ridiculous movie. You know what made the first movie good? Good money. Even though it was far, even though it was far fetched, you could go, you know what? Maybe that could happen. Well, yeah. And then the new one, this could not happen. Nothing in this. Nothing in this could happen.

[00:12:33] That's what I'm saying is every step along the way. It's like, hey, that doesn't make sense. And you just keep saying that through the whole movie. It doesn't even make sense. It was so dumb. I was just sitting there just shaking my head. That he, Ben Affleck's character is going to be like, all of a sudden, you know what? I haven't done. I haven't called my brother in eight, nine years. I should probably call him to help me with this project, which makes no sense.

[00:12:59] And then him going, yeah, okay, I'll do that. And then he does that. And then Ben Affleck's character going in, getting into a bar room fight, beating up everybody, apparently has to rush out. Yeah. And yet he gets the phone number of the girl. When did he stop to do that? You know what? Like everything was just so stupid and it was all played for all this is going to be funny, but none of it was. It's because it's the bad boys syndrome. It was, it really felt like bad boys.

[00:13:29] This was autistic bad boys. Yeah, it was. It really was. And it was a rage, but this was such a bad movie. But it was, as I, as I said, it was rain man. Meads bad boys. Yeah. That's what it was. So yeah, it was, it was awful. By the way, I still love Ben Affleck. Of course you do, but he was horrible. You couldn't do anything with this movie. It didn't matter who was in it. It doesn't matter.

[00:13:57] You could put no one, anybody in these roles. You know what he could have done? He could have read the script and thrown it in the trash. Yeah. That's what he should have done. He should have, he should have said, you know what guys, you got to go back and write something better if you want me to come back as the accountant because this is not good. This is poopy. Wait. Okay. So the accountant was number two. It was number two. Totes. Yeah. Totes. Okay.

[00:14:24] So from that, we go to a cabin in the woods. Sorta. Yeah. There was, was there a cabin? Uh, well, I know there was like a, there was wood. It's more like a visitor center in the woods. So, uh, to be honest, I was thinking this was going to be another PG 13 cabin in the woods. It wasn't. No. Wow.

[00:14:51] That I probably maybe would not even like, I was pleasantly surprised that it was not. We knew this about 20 minutes into this, that it was not a PG 13 movie. Maybe not even 20, maybe somewhere between 10 and 15. When we get a stab in the eye, when it's withdrawn, the eyeball comes right out with us. I'm just like, okay, this is definitely not PG 13.

[00:15:21] This is delicious. That was not in the trailer. No, it was not in the trailer. I mean, we did red band. I missed. We did get some of what you might expect from that genre of films. And when I say that genre, I mean cabins in the woods. Um, the premise, uh, is that we have these teenagers looking for one of their parties, missing sister, and they end up in a grant grand hog day slash happy death day type thing.

[00:15:51] The story is pretty throwaway. Once you know the whole story, I mean how it ends. And when they get to the boss level, how the story happens, to be honest, I wasn't really caring. Cause it kind of made little sense, or at least it really didn't matter. Like it wasn't really, it's a video game. So, you know, we're just trying to get to the end to beat the boss level. Um, but getting the mesmerizing Peter storm air as our villain was great.

[00:16:20] A man that, um, the kills in this were so, so much fun, including many. And when I say many, I mean many, many exploding bodies. There has to be like 20 exploding bodies in this. Yeah. It had a little bit of the cabin in the woods feel and the jump scares were plentiful. And the music really drove the suspense throughout the entire film.

[00:16:47] And although by like three fifths in, I kind of just wanted it to be shorter. Um, the back one fifth of this kicked it into gear and left me feeling completely satisfied and satiated. Uh, I really liked this. It was a high math for me. I, I, I, there's not very often that you get a PG 13 premise about a video game that delivers the level of fun that these kills had. I really enjoyed it. It was a myth.

[00:17:18] I'm going to do some kind of extrapolating here to what I think that they wanted to make with until dawn. Yeah. And what I think they wanted to make is every time that stupid little, uh, hourglass flipped over. Yes. I think they wanted to do almost a different genre of horror film every time it flipped over. Yeah. Yeah. Cause that's where it started. Yeah. And then it just kind of went off the rails from that. And I think if they would have kept on doing it, and I know we get that kind of montage

[00:17:47] of, of the fun kind of found footage. Yeah. Which was done well, which was, which was done well. And you can forgive it more than I can because that just made me want them to do what I thought it was going to do. And what I thought it was going to do is I thought we're going to have a slasher. Then we're going to have that, you know, weird, exploding. Kind of like having in the woods. And then, you know, and then the next time the thing would flip around, we might have, you know, witchcraft.

[00:18:15] Then we had the weird alien worm thing or whatever. Yeah. And if they would have done like 10 minutes of each of those and just, just absolutely just hit you in the face with it for 10 minutes of each. And you'd almost have, honestly, it would have been such a better movie if we had almost like 10 short films of different genres of war. Because by the time you get. No, because I totally disagree because it didn't make sense because it started doing

[00:18:43] one thing and then it just, it made no sense. And yes, it does redeem itself with some cool special effects and some exploding bodies. Yeah. And while, while I do, did want one thing and it gave me another, when they did get to kind of looking back at the, they had the phone, was it a phone? I guess. Walking around device. Yep. So yeah. One of them walking around phone deals. I don't know if you guys know what these are, but I've heard of them. Apparently you can watch like videos and stuff on them. Yeah. And apparently they, they taped video. I guess they didn't tape it.

[00:19:12] I don't know what you call it. They recorded it. They recorded videos on these walking around devices. Yep. Okay. Anyways. So apparently they did that and then they did this whole montage and you kind of went through a bunch of different things, but I honestly wish that a lot, some of that would have been extended and some of the other stuff they could have cut out completely. I don't like the way that this, you kind of didn't mind the pace. I didn't like the pace of this.

[00:19:38] Um, but there was some cool kill. There was a lot of great kill. It was way better than I thought it was going to be. Yes. It was. Peter Stormare was fantastic. As always. It was meh, but it wasn't a high meh. You know? It was very meh. Okay. Well, I'm giving it a high. I mean, what, when it goes on our website, it's the same rating. But that's true. But, but I think, I think I did enjoy it more than you mostly because I, I appreciated that they went.

[00:20:07] Cause by the time they got to that point where you were like, okay, let's do another 10 of these fucking things. I was like, I'm done with that. They need to put a change up in the story. No, no, no. And then they did. A change up in the story would be going with a different story every 10 minutes. It would have been cool. They started to develop an actual story. I guarantee that's what they intended to do originally. And then they realized it was not a good idea. And then they, then they just fricking got lazy. And then they exploded some bodies and that was like, yes.

[00:20:35] But then they explode some bodies and it's like, okay, well you got me again. I thought I was going to rage town, but apparently next stop is Maville. I didn't realize it was actually going to be our R rated movie. Otherwise I wouldn't. Yeah. It was very R rated. Yeah. I figured a bunch of freaking millennial YouTube social media influencers and a PG horror movie. Some very, some very responsible parents brought their six year olds to it.

[00:21:01] There's we're at the, I turned to Bryce in the middle of the movie cause the eye scene, you know, where he stabs him in the eye and pulls it out. And then I turned to Bryce and go, how do you think the little six year old is going to six year olds love that stuff. Six year olds dig eye stats. The parents probably threw up. Yeah. It's just like people, people who bring your six year old to rated R horror movies, please get yourself checked. That's all I was thinking. I was taking into R rated movies and I was like 11. Well, yeah, these, they were not a different time.

[00:21:32] Yeah. They were not 11. They were six. If they were, if they are rated movies are about sex, they weren't about violence. Yeah. Well, I don't know. Like I, it was a different time. I saw the exorcist at 10 and it traumatized me for life. There you go. Still does probably. Still does. Yeah. There you go. All right. So the legend. Hang on. Oh, there we go. Double man. Nice. All right. So let me make sure we're, we're all on the same page this time, which wasn't like

[00:22:00] last week, but I think this is where things are going to change. Yeah. All right. The legend of Ochi. Yeah. What is an Ochi? You may ask. Well, it's kind of like a cross between gizmo. Yeah. With Grogu. Yeah. And an orangutan. It is a gizmo Grogu orangutan. It's exactly. I got, I nailed it. You did nail it. I'm the best. You're pretty good. Yeah. Sometimes. And, and appears to stem from Europe near the black sea. Hmm.

[00:22:30] Our particular lead Ochi. It's the island of Carpathia. There you go. Yeah. That's where Dracula lives. That's where Dracula lives. Dracula is in a Carpathian mountain. Just like, just, just like the orangutan Ochi. Well, he's probably, he's probably run into the Ochi. He may have. Maybe he created the Ochi. I think the Ochi, there might be some Ochi going through Dracula. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe. They got teeth like Dracula. Maybe the Ochi bit the guy and he became a vampire. Now that you say that now we've got, cause with her, you get the little, a little homage

[00:22:59] to Dracula with her teeth. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's completely makes sense. It just brought it to a whole nother level. Exactly. Maybe Bryce is going to change his writing. My rating has been consistent for this movie the whole way. There's all right. I only have one, one thing ran through my mind when this ended. Okay. There you go. It's over. Uh, our particular lead Ochi in this story gets separated from its family in a terrible shootout with a gang. And by gang, I mean, Willem Dafoe and a bunch of young men who are training to defeat this

[00:23:29] evil animal who have destroyed his village for years. Yep. His family were evil, evil, vampiric type Ochi's. So like the gremlin kind of does. See, I said that to Bryce and he said, no, it's not like a gremlin cause they don't change. They're just who they are all the time. Yeah. Gremlin's the evil one. It's yeah. Yeah. It that see that's I got that, but yeah. He didn't know. See, they're not like anyways, go ahead.

[00:23:58] But ridiculous theory is ridiculous. Was he a giant gremlin? No, there's actually no gremlins. There's no gremlins. It is. Ochi's are Ochi's man. Let me repeat. An Ochi is an Ochi is an Ochi. It's a, it's gizmo, Grogu and an orangutan. Well, it looks like gizmo, Grogu and an orangutan. Does he all look like that? Or is he just a baby? Oh, the, the, the little Ochi's just a baby. He's just a baby. He's just a little baby. What do the big ones look like? They kind of look like that too. They kind of look bigger. A bigger version of a baby Ochi. But they have smaller ears. Exactly.

[00:24:29] Apparently, apparently your ears shrink when you become an animal. No, no, you just grow into your ears. Oh, you just grow into your ears. A thousand times I saw this trailer. I never saw the adult one. There you go. There you go. So, but William Dafoe's daughter is not so on board and seems more connected to these critters and also the natural world in, in a way that Dafoe cannot understand. This film is a journey of our young heroine returning this baby Ochi to their family.

[00:24:56] And along the way we're delivered some exceptional scenery that is picturesque and stunning to watch. The set design and cinematography is also freaking brilliant. In addition to taking our little Ochi home, she realizes she can speak Ochi as does her estranged mom sort of. And we get, yep, we get a family dynamic healing film.

[00:25:23] That is an adventure worth taking the music in this, this in the score and the songs are traditional and also reminiscent of what music, in my opinion, it would feel like for this region. Uh, and this fantasy tale, the story is heartwarming. And I think a really great story to share with your family. I was completely taken in by everything that was happening. It was totally Mondo for me.

[00:25:50] I've got a bit to unpack, but, uh, what was the one word you were thinking of Bryce? Uh, well, I'll get to that. Oh, okay. So yeah, the legend of Ochi, legend of Ochi. The thing that I'll touch upon right now is that you'll go into this and you'll look at and you're like, well, that doesn't really look like CGI. And you know why? Cause it's not CGI. They use puppets. There is no CGI in this. Yep.

[00:26:16] And this is the type of thing that makes me love going to the movies. CGI animals take me out of it. Except for Planet of the Apes. And no matter, except for Planet of the Apes, where I'm still convinced it was just a guy in a monkey suit, but whatever. A really good monkey suit. Really good. A really good monkey suit. Not like the, they upgraded it from those seventies monkey suits. Not like the Charlton Heston ones. Yeah. There's so much better than the Charlton Heston monkey suits.

[00:26:43] But yeah, the, the, the, the, uh, I lost my train of thought. You like puppets. It was because you like puppets. Honestly, the puppetry in this was amazing. And every now and then you'll see, you'd see something where it would, they'd look a little bit clunky all of a sudden in one, but it didn't take it away from anything because you were so engrossed in this.

[00:27:07] And the fact that you're not looking at some combination of, you know, a drawing, basically a computer drawing with live action, which just don't meld together. You mean like how to train your dragon? This felt organic. This felt like these two are in the same world. Everything felt organic in this. The, the, as Jim mentioned, the cinematography is absolutely gorgeous. So breathtaking.

[00:27:35] There's this, there's this palette to this movie. That's, that's dark, but not too dark. And it is such an uplifting movie. By the end of this movie, you are absolutely, you care about the mom. You care about the dad. You care about all the kids, all the kids. You care, you care about the Ochi. Like there is no, nobody in this film that you didn't have some sort of connection to.

[00:28:05] And that's why this movie is so, so Mondo. This is what family films need to be. I don't need to see any more. Number one, I don't need to see any more stupid computer graphics when we don't need them. It doesn't feel organic ever. It just feels phony. And this did not feel phony at any point. It just was, it was an amazing thing to watch. I can't believe how much I love this movie. Yeah.

[00:28:33] And I was choked up at the end. Yeah. Like I was ready. I was, I was so close to shedding some tears. And then I swallowed like super hard, choked them back and, and got on with my life. And did you, did you know that? This was, this was a, this was an amazing film. Did you know it was Helena Zengel? This is a family movie I've been waiting for. Yeah. Uh, uh, did you know it was Helena Zengel? Yes. From System Crasher? Yeah. My favorite little actress. Yeah. And I, how old is she now? I don't even know.

[00:29:03] She's, she was born in 2008. Oh really? So she, she's 17 now. She probably was 15, 16 when she was doing this. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, no, she's, and she's still every, she nails it every time. Even when she was in that crap movie with, the remake with Jeff. Tom Hanks? No, with Jeff Daniels. Oh. The, the Western. Oh yeah. Yeah. She was still great in it. The movie just sucked. And, uh, Finn Wolfhand as well in this. He was Finn Wolfhard. Wolfhard. Yeah.

[00:29:33] He is. The Ghostbuster dude. Yeah. I know him as the. Dude from Stranger Things. Stranger Things. I've never seen it. But, uh, he. He's the best he's ever been. It is, but it's a, it's honestly. He's. He expected his role to be bigger and it shouldn't have been. Don't get me wrong. It shouldn't have been, but you almost expect someone else to be in that role. Cause he really doesn't have a lot in it, but anything. But yeah, no, everything he is. He does in it.

[00:30:01] And you, and his arc is good. Like from the, from the first and you, and everything makes sense. And, but yeah, no, just every character in this, as I say, you don't necessarily care about them at the beginning, but by the end you care about them all. You carry both, both them all good and bad. You, you kind of see where they're all coming from. You understand. Like we're, we're all in this together and they all see that they're all in this together and we're all in it together with the Ochi too. Why is he quoting High School Musical?

[00:30:31] I don't know. He just, he just does that sometimes. I love the legend of Ochi. He's all warm and fuzzy apparently. He likes doing things like that. I'm going to tell you, I've, I've, I've, legend of Ochi could very well make my best films of the year. Like I enjoyed this that much. Okay. Can we talk about the grocery store scene? Oh, so good. They go to the grocery store. Cause she basically escapes. You know, the whole premise, right?

[00:30:55] Is that her dad, who he, you don't know what happened to the mom, but he wants to kill the Ochi because he feels the Ochi was what drove his wife away. And not just that, but the Ochi's been stealing, killing their livestock and stealing their stuff and doing all these things, which you don't even know if it is the Ochi that's doing it. It just could be. I don't think it was either. Cause these guys pretty much stick to the tops of mountains.

[00:31:23] So I don't think that, but his heart is so broken. And so he takes these kids in, in a scene. That's almost reminiscent of Wes Anderson. When you see Willem Dafoe with these kids, all getting into the car to go up and shoot. I'm like, did, did, did our director was, was he a big fan of Wes Anderson? Not, not that the whole movie has Wes Anderson feel, but just little tiny snippets of it. And probably it's because it's Willem Dafoe. Right.

[00:31:52] And how Willem Dafoe plays that character just so, so well. The other thing I really liked about this movie is it made some, it, it kind of led you one way and then it like, didn't do the obvious thing. Like a certain person gets bit by the Ochi and they're infected and you think that that's why they have a certain ability. Yeah. Turns out that is not why at all. Yeah. Like that was brilliant. Yeah. That was so absolutely brilliant.

[00:32:17] And in a lesser lazier writing of a movie, the, the communication between them wouldn't have been the kid speaking Ochi. It probably would have been the Ochi, like murmuring, like little phrases of English. Like Gizmo speaking English. Yeah. Yeah. And that's lazy. This one, no. No, they wrote it in Ochi. And, and it's, and the, everything ties together so beautifully. I can't, we got to stop talking about this movie cause I'm just going to start crying again. I love it.

[00:32:52] Wow. This is almost frightening me. It's frightening me how wrong I've been. Well, no, you've been right on some things. I just haven't cared. No, that's the only one. Um, but this one, this is where we might fall off the rails. We've agreed for everything. I think we may differ on this one. All right. Okay. On swift horses. So, so many swift horses running everywhere in this. We got a gay brother to Jesse Plymouth Jr. As I like to call him, or he's also known as Will Poulter. Yeah.

[00:33:21] Who I think is going to be in every single movie that's made this year. He's in every movie this year. Yeah. It's, it's the, it's the Will Poulter here. You're the Poulter. Who's swiftly running, uh, and his wife who's either bi or a lesbian running from where she's at also. So, and then poor Lee, AKA Jesse Jr.

[00:33:44] AKA Will, who's been running from his situation in hopes of finding a life where he's supposed to be supported unconditionally. Hmm. This is a very slow moving character story with a lot that lots that's happening and lots of secrets and takes place in the 1950s slash sixties post Korean war era.

[00:34:08] All the characters are very well defined, which made for an interesting dynamic in the film. It also was very soap opera feeling, at least to me. Also a little too many episodes in this soap opera, cause it was a bit of too long. It was a little draggy and drawn out by the time I got to the end of this, um, coming in just under two hours, but it felt more like three.

[00:34:34] I did like the characters, but also found it did have some bait and switch in it and shows a relationship between the gay brother and the bi wife that is unspoken. And yet we are supposed to believe is there without it properly being developed. At least I didn't feel it was properly developed. They meet one night and all of a sudden they have this connection. You don't see them connected in any other way, which for me meant I needed either another

[00:35:01] episode of the soap opera that showed this part of the story better or changed it so that it was not as predominant. Like it was a big part of how the story played out. And to me, I didn't feel that they had built that to have it go in that direction. I also, all the acting I thought was really well done. Um, I didn't love the soap opera-ness to it though. So for that reason, it's a man, it's, it's a kind of a good story, but it just, yeah, this

[00:35:29] was a very, this is a movie that if it wasn't a, like the way it was shot, it's a very 50s, 50s, 60s movie. Like if this was made in the 50s or 60s, of course, with the subjects that are touched upon in this and the way that they're touched upon, there's no way it would ever get made in the 50s or 60s.

[00:35:54] But I felt like if they, if they did make this movie in the 50s or 60s, this is how it would look. Yeah. This would, how it would play. This was, this would be the pace because it, there are lots of movies from that era that are just like this, but with different subject matter. Yeah, exactly. Not with, with the whole queer story. Yeah, there's a, there's a, yeah, exactly. But this was so well acted. Yeah.

[00:36:21] And it, it was a movie that I just kind of sat back and it just sort of washed over me. I never got bored at all. I was like, I understand why you could, but I was just so mesmerized by just every scene and the way that it all just unfolded and, and how it, it kind of meshed into the next scene. And I, I, I just really enjoyed this. Did I enjoy it enough to give it like a mondo? Diego?

[00:36:51] No. Okay. No. So it was a high man for you. It was a very high man. Um, cause I just, and I just hope that I see more Diego Calva. I mean, he was brilliant in that. Isn't he the dude from Babylon? The dude from Babylon. Dude from Babylon. Yeah. He's, he is so good and he's good. He's so good in this. They're all so good in this. Like the acting is a sort of a force. Like yeah, just for the acting it's so, and I just, it's a beautiful film to look at. Like it is, it is a, it's gorgeous.

[00:37:20] Um, but do you know what I'm saying about the connection with the brother and her? There's a couple of things that kind of bugged me that just kind of, and that's one of them. Um, and that's why it didn't make it to a mondo. Cause there were just a couple of things that just sort of nagged at me. It nagged at me for the whole movie too. So I, but I was having, I was just, just kind of letting it all wash over me. And then every now and then I get a little bit annoyed. Yeah.

[00:37:46] But then I get, I get the next scene and I see the brilliant acting going back and forth. Yeah. Such good dialogue. I really enjoyed this movie a lot. And I, I can honestly say that I've never seen a movie like this on this subject matter. I've seen movies like this, but not done like this with this subject matter. So I mean, it's in that way it's original and I enjoyed it a lot. It's a good, it's a good queer representation film for the era that it's showing. So absolutely.

[00:38:14] I love that people are trying to do this. Hmm. Yeah, for sure. We need more queer films anyway. So it's meh. Okay. So here's the, Hey, so we've been bang on everything this week. What's going on with us? Have we agreed on everything? We have. It's annoying me actually. It's stupid. What is wrong with you? I don't know. What's wrong with you? Yeah, exactly. What's wrong with you? You're supposed to love Ben Affleck. What's wrong with you? Exactly.

[00:38:42] You're supposed to have, there's one thing in this world I can guarantee, I can count on. I do love Ben Affleck. How much he loves Ben Affleck? But just because I love Ben Affleck. If Ben Affleck makes a bad movie, I'm still going to give it a rage. He's still the finest actor of mine or anybody else's generation. He makes a lot of bad movies. He makes a lot of bad movies. Remember he made that stupid basketball movie, which was horrible? Yeah, no, it was good. It was horrible. The Last Duel? No, The Last Duel, also horrible. The Last Duel was a super mondo. I love that movie. It was probably-

[00:39:12] I could watch that movie over and over again. I think it made one of the worst films I saw that year. Yes, mine too. Mine too. That's a ridiculous statement if I ever- Get your Cronenberg gasm on. Get my shroud on. It's the shrouds. Okay, so 22 films of sheer perfection. That is what my life was up until now.

[00:39:42] This one? Well, at least in my mind, the person that has taken us places to where we either aren't aware or confused or shocked by where we're going, where we've been, and what's happening on the screen in front of us.

[00:39:58] But in his 23rd film, as he's in his sunset years, a fear has been introduced to me that it kind of started as some of the other directors of late that have happened from the greats of yesteryear, such as, can I remind us about Glenn Eastwood? Or perhaps Francis Ford Colbo's last- Scorsese. Yeah, or Scorsese.

[00:40:27] Maybe he's reached a point that I can't trust his content anymore. Maybe. In this film, we start down a path that is deep and complex and feels like another great head trip by the master filmmaker. But, as we get halfway through this, it starts to be more transparent and unfortunately and surprisingly simple. And at times, a quite droning experience.

[00:40:55] I mean, we get some great body horror and a great initial concept. But by the time we reach the end of this, I kind of didn't care what happens to any of the characters. And one of the hardest parts for me was that I did not, I could not connect to Vincent Castle in this at all. I think he was horrible in this. Just horrible. These words in the history of my life have never been spoken.

[00:41:24] David Cronenberg has made a film that is not Mondo and is barely a man. David, please spend some time with your son and get your mojo back. Because as of now, he could be added to our undoubted list in time for you to be removed. Hmm. That puts the pressure on there for David Cronenberg. It does. Because if you give him a rage. Well, no. If you give him a rage. Number one, if I give him a rage, he's gone.

[00:41:53] Number two, his next movie, if it's Mad again. It better not be a Mondo. I know. If it's Mad again. I know. Just because of what you just said. Yep. He gone. So the pressure's on for Cronenberg. Yeah. Here's what... This... I don't even know what to make of this film really. You've got an expectation going into a David Cronenberg movie.

[00:42:20] And there's no question that this did not live up to my expectations. This was like Cronenberg lite. Um... It was very deliberate. It didn't tell a whole lot of story to warrant a two hour run time. No. It droned on at points where I'm like, like, why is this scene still going on? And there were some scenes where I'm like, did we really need that?

[00:42:50] Um... It just lengthened the movie. And it's an interesting concept. It really is. And it's a movie that feels like it should have been better. And the scary thing is, is this apparently... Um... I read somewhere that this movie was actually originally going to be a Netflix series. So this was probably going to be like six or eight hours long.

[00:43:14] And I'm thinking, how in the hell would you make this that when you condensed... Six or eight hours. By the end of this, you're just... You're just like, okay. Not the worst thing I've ever watched. Sure doesn't live up to a Cronenberg movie. No. I wasn't quite as bothered by Castle as you were. I just... He was horrible in this. But, I mean...

[00:43:44] I do think that Diane Kruger was very good in it. Guy Pearce was great. Possibly the best Guy Pearce has ever been. So, I mean, there were some really good performances. Elizabeth Saunders in this, she was great. And there were enough really good scenes in this. I just wish that all the scenes in between those good scenes could have even... Could have either been better or just not been there at all. So this isn't a rage.

[00:44:14] It is a meh. But Cronenberg, buddy, I... Go spend some time with your son. Yeah, I was... Right? Go watch his cool catalog. I mean, at the end of the day, this is just a disappointing meh. Yeah, like, you know... Yeah. Well, and it's... I don't know that I've ever been... I've never been disappointed by a Cronenberg movie. Like, I've never come out of it going, Oh, man. I wish... That should have been bad. Like, it's like every time I get out of one, I'm like, that was great. I was...

[00:44:43] It was either really good or great for me. I know it's great for you every time, but he had a couple of mehs for me. But this was the lowest meh of anything that he's done. Yeah. And while it was still a... It's still a good movie, it's sure not a Cronenberg. I think it's because we have this expectation. It's not up to Cronenberg. And that's part of it. There's no question. Right? Is that he stretches boundaries in his films, and this one didn't stretch very many... And I didn't... And it didn't feel as original as...

[00:45:10] Like, even though it's an original concept, it still didn't feel original. Like, it's a really original concept that didn't feel original. Mm-hmm. But, you know, it was meh. And I just wanted... I just... Yeah, so that's horrible. We agree on everything. We agree on everything. Okay, so, well... Oh, well, we disagreed last week a lot, so... Yeah, we did. Okay, so, but can I say this? There's a lot of nudity in this film. Like, a lot of nudity. And when I say nudity, I just mean female nudity.

[00:45:40] And I want to just put that out there. Okay, Cronenberg has never shied away from male nudity. He's put male nudes in his films before. If you're going to cast a male, make sure they're comfortable with nudity. Because there's scenes in this that we should have seen full frontal male nudity. They conveniently didn't do it. I didn't care. No, okay, but this is what I want to say though, right? Is why?

[00:46:06] Why did the woman have to be nude all the time and the guy isn't? Like, I'm not... I'm just saying that the story was put that where Castle would get out of bed after having sex with somebody and then he's conveniently coving his wiener up. Like, nobody does that when you've just had sex with somebody. You want to shake your wiener around and slap her around with it. Like, yum, yum, yum. There's none of this... Yum, yum, yum. There's no... What is he talking about, bro? You got me.

[00:46:36] Yeah, I'm single. I'm going to go crawl in the corner and hide my wiener from the camera? Like, fuck off, Cronenberg. Like, come on. You're better than this. Like, if Castle did not want to be nude in this film, first off, I think he should have been replaced by someone else anyway. Where's Viggo Mortensen? He could have played this character way better. So, that's all I want to say. All right. Hashtag wienergate, too. More wiener. Yeah, more wiener all the time. We want to still call him Crone Bone. All right, then. Oh, my.

[00:47:06] Oh, my, indeed. Let's change topics, shall we? Yes. All right. Okay. So, on top of seeing five films, we also went to the back half of Cuff, Calgary Underground Film Festival. So, go check out calgaryundergroundfilm.org and take a look at the content that was produced there. Again, this year, I think by the time we got to the end of the festival, everybody in

[00:47:33] our film watching group was pretty drained as we get older every year. Plus, I got a festival cold, man. Wednesday night, my throat was a little sore and by Thursday, I was like, I'm not feeling well. So, I went through Thursday, Friday, Saturday of that festival suffering. Yeah. Which isn't conducive to watching movies. No, it's not. It's good for hanging around other people. That's right. That's what you get. We usually try and hide from everybody at the back of the cinema. It happens.

[00:48:02] Honestly, I've never gotten sick at a festival before, but for some reason, somebody gave me something this year. Evil, evil film goers. But I just have to give kudos to Cuff this year. I just really can't say enough good that they made this an underground film festival for the ages. This was an underground film festival. This is back to when the first year I went to Cuff, this is the type of stuff they were doing. Yeah. And now it feels, it feels fresh again.

[00:48:30] Like every single film we saw was swinging for as big a fence as they could swing. Yeah. And even if we didn't like, well, like, I don't think there was one film that we hated. I know Murray is different cause he's not an underground film person. No, but for, I think for you and I recall it was when you walked out on. So there must've been that. Yeah, but I was tired. So that was, I was, I was done. Um, yeah, I'm going to use that as an excuse cause I didn't want to hate it. And I had a feeling I might.

[00:48:57] Um, so yeah, anyway, the, to me, this, this just deserves huge applause. Cuff, you guys did a great year programming. Um, so for the back half, obviously we didn't see as many films in the back half, but I'm surprisingly, I still had four Mondos that I gave out. Now I did see some movies that Bryce didn't see. Yeah. So probably, um, he probably also would have given these Mondos and he will eventually seen them. I know.

[00:49:25] I really want to see the two of your Mondos for sure. And I have a feeling that your other two Mondos might be Mondo for me too. Oh, maybe not one of them. No, not one of them. Uh, and I'm going to tell you why that is. So the first, again, not in any particular order, the ugly stepsister. I liked it a lot. Yeah. So not since 77 porn version of Cinderella told Pinocchio to lie, baby lie.

[00:49:49] Have I had as much fun in a Disney classic fairy tale, except in this one, Cinderella was a total bitch. And our true victim who is Elvira is not such an ugly stepsister. Yeah. And ultimately she is the true victim in this story. I, I just think they took this story and just spun it on its head in a way that I'd never was thought was possible.

[00:50:17] As I was taking the journey through this film though, by the time it got to the end, there was moments where I was like, okay, this isn't going to hit to Mondo, but how this film ended to me just, it put all the icing on the cake and I went, you know what? I'm going to remember this film forever. Yeah. I can see that. The other thing that's unique about this film is I know for a fact from talking to people that there were some people that still sympathized with Cinderella. And there's some people that sympathize the other way. And I guess it's depends on how you watch this movie.

[00:50:48] You, you might swing one way or the other. Cause to be honest, they're both awful at some points in this movie, but you know, you're going to come to your own conclusion. And I don't think they really try to steer you either way. They're just like, Hey, this is what happened. This is what happened. Sympathize with whoever you want. But this is what, this is what I like so much about it. This is why I think it's, it's a, it deserves the Mondo it's getting. Yeah. I'm close, man. I'm close. What can I say to push you over that edge? What about when she cut her feet off to fit into those slippers? It was pretty freaking awesome.

[00:51:18] It was pretty freaking awesome. You know, I mean, if you've got that much dedication, I almost feel like I need to watch this again when I'm not feeling horrible. Maybe because the amount that I enjoyed it and the fact that I felt like absolute death while watching it. Yep. It probably says that it might've been better than I even thought. Oh, it's definitely better than I should probably watch it again at some point. You should for now, just give it a Mondo and then you can take it back. I could take it back. Yeah. Sure. Why not?

[00:51:47] It's a Mondo. Yes. Awesome. All right. My second one is 1978. Yeah. I want to see that. Argentinian nationalists decide to torture what they think are communists, but end up getting, I think they end up getting demon zombie dogs. Maybe Satan, maybe Satan's baby.

[00:52:15] Nothing in this is explained at all, but the film is bonkers. Like, and I say bonkers. I mean, up and it's like, there's almost like it's two movies. The first half of the movie is a, um, gangster kind of film. Um, and it takes place, uh, during the world cup where it's in Argentina.

[00:52:38] Uh, and the second half just flips a switch and this film would just became so insane and so amazing. And so Mondo. I freaking loved, loved, loved, loved this movie. The fact that we have a giant demon get birthed from somebody's orifice. I have no clue where it came from.

[00:53:04] Like normally things like this would bother me, but because of how this movie was, nothing was like, Oh yeah, I'm not buying. I'm not, I'm not, not buying anything. Wait a minute. That doesn't make any sense. Where did he come from? Like, who cares? This is awesome. This is so awesome. And this has like the best ending of any Argentinian film I've seen in a long time. The ending in this is so freaking brilliant. I will seek this out.

[00:53:30] My friend, you're going to go, Oh my God, the light bulb just came on. And that doesn't happen normally with me. Normally it's like, Oh yeah, I've already got this light bulb and you know, you can have suspicions, but when the light bulb comes on at the end of this movie, you're just like, that was a very satisfying light bulb. And when I say light bulb, I mean a red stoplight. Fair enough. Yeah. If anyone gets a chance to see 1978, see it. All right. All right. Broken bird, which, uh, is that was what I was supposed to go to.

[00:54:00] I was feeling so awful. I had to come home. Me also until I had to work. Oh, so this one's a great Gothic horror flick. It's dark. It's creepy. Uh, it immerses you into these characters. Our lead is one of the creepiest and evilest villains slash victims since the tall thin man in phantasm. Yes. I thought she was that evil and creepy. I love the pacing and it's another Raven banner banger. All right.

[00:54:30] That is also Mondo. And my last Mondo is called good boy. And it's a dog dough. I mean, sorry, Mondo. Uh, we get dog nightmares, dog daymares, dog jump scares, and the complete knowledge of our dogs. Dogs see the world as we, their owners are dying of cancer. So if you ever imagine like if, well, pretend you were dying of cancer or maybe you knew some

[00:54:58] of those dying of cancer and they had a dog. This is what your dog thinks and feels. And that's what the movie is. It's totally from the dog's point of view. Totally from the dog. I mean, it's not like in a violent Nate. Well, maybe in that respect, but it's how the, it's visceral and how the dog feels. Yeah. What's going on. It's not just what he sees. It's what he's feeling. Like when the dog has a jump scare. It's like, it's his nightmares while this is going on.

[00:55:24] It's what he associates in his mind as this stuff is going on around him. And it's just, it's amazing. Sorry to interrupt. Yeah, no, that's, that's, I'm glad you did. Cause it really is like, and it's funny because it's another one of those ones that as I'm watching, I'm like, this is so original and so creative. Wasn't it though? And then as I was watching it, I was kind of going, you know, it's okay. It's okay. But then as the movie progresses, it just gets consistently better. Yeah.

[00:55:52] And you're, you're in this dog shoes and you're like, you're feeling bad for this dog. It's like this poor guy, he's going through so much. And it's funny when I posted. He's such a good boy. He's such a good boy. And you know, it's funny. Cause as I posted it on socials, I had five or six people reach out to me, say, please tell me that the dog lives in this movie. The dog lives everybody. Don't worry. But definitely see this movie, like however you can get it. It's so good.

[00:56:22] And the way he wants to just stay with his owner right till the end, he does not want to leave his owner. No matter if his owners, you know, whatever, dying of cancer, he's going with his owner, wherever his owner's going. Yep. It's just, it's so good. It's just a fantastic movie. He's a good boy. Such a good boy. Mondo! Mondo. Okay. The Murr. Did you have anything that you saw? Maybe that you haven't told our listeners about? No, I worked night shifts pretty much all week. I didn't have time to do anything else.

[00:56:53] But as a preview, I did see a few good ones. The one I missed on Monday with you guys, which I saw was that Pater Noster thing. Yeah. Oh, Pater Noster so good. Was easily my favorite movie that I watched. In all the stuff I watched for Cuff, that was my favorite. Which is so funny. Because it was just a straight up slasher movie that was, you know, blood everywhere and it was like a hippie commune. There's a blood orgy movie. Yes. There's a blood orgy. It was very gooey.

[00:57:19] And there was a lot, and who was it that, there was somebody famous in it, like a two minute scene. I can't remember who that was. It wasn't like Dee Snider, but someone like that. Oh, right. It was, um, somebody, some famous rock person was I liked. Yeah. It was like the DJ, right? Yeah. I forget who it was. Anyway, that was a great, great role. Cameo. Oh, Timmy Capello. Oh yeah. The guy from Lost Boys. The guy, the saxophone dude from Lost Boys. That's who it was.

[00:57:49] Yes. And yeah, obviously I love Cheech and Chong. I'm wrong. Um, the wing bowl thing. I didn't mind. I wouldn't have given a mondo, but I enjoyed watching the first two thirds of it. Yeah. It made me hate Eagles fans even more than I do already. It's actually funny. The, the one thing that the director of wing bowl said is that he was curious to see how, cause all, everybody that watched the film in Philly said, there's no way this movie is going to play anywhere else. Nobody's going to care about it. Cause everybody hates Philly.

[00:58:18] No, no. Unless you're from Philly just cause it's a Philly story that nobody else is going to relate to. And he, and he's shown it in like a couple different places and they both absolutely embrace it. The crowd in this movie really enjoyed it. I can appreciate the story. Just I didn't like their hometown team, but yeah, the fact that they just had, that's a reason not to. They had these 400 pound guys every year would come back and just suck down chicken wings and surprised nobody died. Well, they also had some rather petite women that handed them their asses.

[00:58:48] And then they had the hot dog guy who won the Nathan's hot dog contest every single year until he turned vegan and went all corporate apparently. Good for him. Yeah. No, he was in it one year. Let's celebrate him. And then a bunch of, you know, wannabe wrestlers in it. All right. Guys I don't like. You're doing a good sales job. Anyway, no, it was a decent watch. I mean, if you're a sports fan, it's, it's good watch, but. We just talked a lot about it for a movie that wasn't Mondo.

[00:59:15] And speaking of sports, there's the other one, which you guys would never mention because I don't know if you even saw it, but it was called Ephus, which I don't even know what that means. But it's a bunch of old guys who were basically, they're going to their ballpark to play one last game before it gets torn down. Sounds like a Murray movie. And it's like an all night. It's like a 12 hour marathon and you know, old guys with bad knees and bad hips. And they're like drinking on the field. And at one point there's no rat. There's no umpires.

[00:59:42] And then they have to use the headlights from their vehicles to shine on the, uh, it was good. I liked that one. I wouldn't give not Mondo either, but so that's, that's basically, he didn't get enough. Dude, I saw seven movies at cuff and I enjoyed one of them. So I had to go on about something, but you didn't, but I did. We're already at the one hour point of this podcast. You really didn't have to go on. What's your favorite film then you saw? Peter Noster. That I saw.

[01:00:11] That I saw overall at cuff or in theaters. Uh, sure. If it played at cuff. Yeah. I think Cheech and Chong and Peter Noster is a tie. I like to go on for different reasons. Good. All right, Bryce, what have you got? What's your favorite? We already just covered it with you. Let's move on. Which one was what? It wasn't a what? Did we talk about what? Good boy and oh, my favorite for the festival. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Uh, wake up. It's okay.

[01:00:38] It's a tie between, uh, Ebony and Ivory and good boy. Cause I can't, they're totally different movies. I can't, they are. I can't make the, cause I, I, I am so amazed by good boy. How, how it really, it really got me. And Ebony and Ivory is just the funniest thing you'll ever watch in your life. Uh, if you like that type of humor. I disagree. With the caveat that watch the greasy strangler. Yeah. You have to see that first. If you think that's funny, you'll also enjoy this. Yeah, you will. Yeah, you will.

[01:01:08] I think that's true. So, um, okay. If everyone's doing a tie here, then mine's going to be Ebony and Ivory and you are the universe. And that would be my honorable mention. Cause those are the, those by those three for me, good boy, Ebony and Ivory, you are the universe were actually standouts above everything else. Don't get me wrong. I had, I had some other Mondos just like Peter Nostra was amazing. Yeah. But those three are just amazing films. Yeah.

[01:01:35] For me, I think, um, yeah, I think I'd be leaning more towards you or the universe because I think anybody who sees that movie, I think it's a movie that everybody could see and the backstory to it just makes it that much better because it's, you know, we talked about it last episode, but the, the director is started the film before the Ukraine war and ended it during the Ukraine war. So yeah, yeah, it's, it's worth, we're supporting.

[01:02:04] It's an, it's an amazing feat and it's also an amazing film. Yep. Absolutely. Now it's a reminder to everybody. I will not be here next week. So Bryce and Murr are going to have to handle everything. I guess so. All by their lonesomes and raise your dare and the list will come back in a few weeks. So we'll get our Casey boy back as well. So thanks ragers for listening. Thanks to the extended film age family. You can find in our show notes. Thanks to Casey, our God of rage and the nerdy photographer for the voice of rage. Oh, dear.

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