Episode 282 - Y'all need a pilot

[00:00:04] It's time to feel the rage! Welcome to Film Rage where we talk movies, in theaters, streaming, and classic films as well. Directors and actors beware as you cannot hide from the rage. My name is Bryson, part of the Film Rage crew which also includes Jim. Hey there Jim. What's up, Bryce? Yeah I don't know what that was. Was that chicken lady? He's a chicken lady, I guess. It's the chicken lady!

[00:00:35] And also we have the Merman who's flying the Film Rage colors today. Not the only one. I believe we all are. Well that's not true. He's a cuffy today. He's got some weird bean... I've got a tattoo that has half of our logo. Does that count? Yeah. So with the introductions out of the way, what's right John?

[00:01:05] Hmm. Well thanks to all that have been supporting us. If you love our independent podcasts, please like, subscribe, share, and give us a five star rating on your listening platform. Or support us and join the Film Rage community by joining our membership at buymeacoffee.com forward slash Film Rage YYC. If you cannot commit to a membership, you can still buy us a movie rental and dare us to see a terrible film and we'll watch it if it played anywhere in a cinema in the world. Now, let's get to raging.

[00:01:34] Back baby! What the amazing moon predict? What would the amazing moon predict? Will he predict the ritual? Will he predict the... Bundo! Will he tell us all what Jim and Bryce saw at the movies? Joke now kids, cause here he comes. Swimming, swimming to you.

[00:02:02] Swim- energía… Swim-inery… Swim, swim, Murray, swim, Murray, swim, Murray, swim. Swim all the way to our hearts, our little hearts, hearts, hearts. Oh, I missed you guys. Yeah. I totally did. We all saw a bunch of movies. We did. Separately. Yes. But now we're reunited. And it feels so good. I set you up right there because I knew what you were thinking.

[00:02:32] Yes, you did. All right. The first one is one that only Bryce saw because it only played in one theater in the whole damn city. Theatra. And I had no interest in seeing it. Oh. It's called The Nickel Boys. Just Nickel Boys, I think. I saw two different trailers for this. Hmm. I still have no freaking idea what the movie's about. Nice. That's the way a trailer should be. Or who's even in it. Hmm. But judging by what I saw, how slow it was and all the talking and walking, let's give it a mondo. Ha ha ha.

[00:03:02] All right. Thanks. Then we have Presence, which is the latest movie from Steven Soderbergh. Yes. Haki Soderbergh. Haki. Yeah. Which, you know, it's always hit or miss with him. Yes, it is. A lot of miss. A lot of miss. It's apparently a ghost story, but according to the actors, it's in the daytime. Yeah. There's different times throughout the whole movie. Ghosts don't have to sleep, man. That's right. I don't know. It's in the day. It's in the night.

[00:03:32] I think Jim probably hated it, so let's go rage. Oh. Bryce might have had a few interesting moments, so let's meh that one. Okay. For a ghost story, too. Yeah. That's interesting. Then we have The Brutalist. The Brutalist. The Brutalist. Ooh, The Brutalist. That was a short film, right? I think it just needed to be a little longer. Yeah, I don't think it was long enough. Maybe he put a second intermission in there. Yes. Yes. Let's have it six hours with two intermissions.

[00:04:01] And have more talking and more subtitles, because that's the best part. Yes. I'll be talking about that later. Talking at subtitles. Yes. Sounds like a mondo. I'm pretty sure it's a double mondo for you guys. Guarantee you it's not. Not so fast, Murph. Not so much for me. Flight risk. Oh, yeah. Which I guess Jim didn't see. Y'all need a pilot? Y'all need a pilot.

[00:04:27] I saw it yesterday with about a hundred other people. Really? Yeah. Why? Because it was the number one movie of the weekend. Why? I don't know. Well, I hope I can put a stop to that. I think you're going to rage about that one. You are probably right. We got September 5th, which came out like what? Real predictable film. Yeah. September 5th came out like what? Two months ago. But we finally got it here. I think it came out like Christmas Day for everybody.

[00:04:57] What was it? Yeah. Except for us. Except for us. Yeah. Um, I think maybe you guys didn't like it. So I'm going to say double rage. Double rage on September 5th. Okay. There you go. That is a... Bold. That is a bold one. Where he's gone bold. All right. So the movie... So the reason I didn't get to see everything is because I was busy out of town at work and a bunch of things.

[00:05:27] Uh-huh. And funny... Weak. Funny... Weak. Funny thing is... Yeah. I almost got to see Nickel Boys. Okay. But it wasn't playing at a time that I could go on my way to the airport. So as I'm on my way to the airport to come back home... Yeah. I could only find one movie to watch, which we'll be talking about next week. Yes. Because Toronto got it a week before us. Yeah. We'll talk about it next week because I am looking forward to talking about that movie

[00:05:57] even though I haven't seen it. But I really, really want to. And don't let on at all. I'm not letting on anything, but it does have someone that is on our mesmerized list. There you go. Nice. All right. So I have no idea what's going on. Nickel Boys. Nickel Boys. Right. We didn't see it, so... Oh, so it's all me. We're starting with Nickel Boys? We're starting with a movie that probably nobody really cares? I don't know. Why would they not care?

[00:06:26] I don't know. I'm sure there's an audience for Nickel Boys. There's definitely an audience for Nickel Boys, but I think... Well, tell us why. Was it in the top 20? Who cares? That's not our podcast. That's true. We try to see everything that comes in the cinemas. But you lead with stuff that, you know, to get the people listening. There's nothing on this list that people wanted to hear us talking about. No. What do you mean? There was a number one movie at the box office. Yeah, that was Flight Risk. That's when he told Murray he shouldn't even have gone to see. Anyways, Nickel Boys.

[00:06:56] It is the story of two black kids named Elwood, played by Ethan Harris, and Turner, played by Brandon Wilson, during the height of segregation in Florida. They meet in a reformatory school by the name of Nickel Academy, where they form a bond. A nickel bond? There's nothing to do with nickels. Did anyone get a nickel back? Nobody got a nickel back. I saw a nickel in the trailer. Somebody had one. Okay. The story is filmed POV style, with the view flipping between the two young men in an attempt to put us in their shoes.

[00:07:25] This may or may not be effective for you, but I can honestly say that it worked for me. Okay. The journey begins with Elwood, who feels that he needs to contribute by protesting and providing what he can to support the civil rights movement. His contribution is recognized, and he's offered an opportunity to study at a college. on his way to school he hitches a ride with the wrong guy oh no white people no it's a black dude

[00:07:50] but as the car is pulled over it turns out the driver had stolen the vehicle no we are in florida so of course the police treat elwood as an accomplice even though the driver says no he had nothing to do with it and he is off to the nickel academy for reform instead of you know going to school where he could have made something of his life yep so the roadblocks you you uh encounter when you're a young black man especially in florida in florida especially at that time during

[00:08:20] segregation as you might imagine the nickel academy is not a very nice place it is here he meets turner who is not quite as optimistic as elwood where elwood sees the potential for things to get better turner just sees them as they are these two play off each other very effectively even though they are barely on screen together as we are more often getting the point of view of one or the other so you know when one's talking we're actually just looking at the other one yep vice versa mixed in

[00:08:47] throughout our film clips of the or or uh well our clips of films are there's kind of archive news footage yeah that kind of drives home a lot of the messages within the film especially as it pertains to whitewashed history the performances are top notch and the film is kind of gorgeous which is funny to say considering the subject matter this film recognizes the price of freedom and it does it in a way that will stay with you as you leave the cinema uh nickel boys was mondo you were correct

[00:09:16] there merman oh man damn it yeah no it's too bad you didn't see it i'm sure you will at some point but it's it's a different experience and i'll i'll go right up front that this the the point of view it's either going to work for you or it's not i can see someone going into this and going you know what that didn't work for me at all yeah but you know you're never going to put yourself in the shoes of these these guys obviously but it's as closely good because when you are look looking through their eyes and you're kind of seeing the reaction like straight at you yeah instead of

[00:09:45] the side it's it's a different feeling it sounds it sounds like a good creative way to shoot it and then obviously if it's visually brilliant which you know there's a lot of things in florida that are pretty beautiful yeah i really really enjoyed this movie did anybody eat an orange i don't believe so there was no orange eating damn i love oranges from florida oranges are great oh you know what but we probably can't afford them anymore no no those are gonna be way too expensive all right let's move on

[00:10:15] all right um i don't even know what are we doing about presents presents i love presents i love presents too one loves presents yes you know what i said on our social media for this that our presence our presence we got this week was presents but was it a present uh we're gonna find out all right so i don't even know who's going first all right okay so i didn't turn

[00:10:42] it sorry it didn't turn the subgenre of ghost films on its head no it wasn't the scariest movie horror sorry horror movie this year it wasn't even a horror even though it's january janvier we have a family that is at odds with each other oh yes where mom and dad and the two teenage kids are all in

[00:11:07] a different headspace where they move into a new home which happens to be a heritage home the son is a jock and the daughter is suffering from the loss of her best friend all the while they slowly learn and i'm putting heavy quotes here presence in the home the daughter feels like it is her dead friend

[00:11:28] her brother is a dick for most of the movie and um we also learn that the son's new friend has a thing for the daughter wink wink at the same time we understand there is marriage tension and both of the parents are on either side of their kids plus almost in a creepily way um plus there's something

[00:11:52] that the wife did that i think was bad and the husband is supporting her kind of blah blah blah that like um that didn't go anywhere um through all of the film we get what i want to call presence vision going on which is basically the viewpoint of the ghost the entire time again this is nothing new

[00:12:16] it's been done in horror movies for years but this is somehow groundbreaking because that's how they're presenting it to us this movie is groundbreaking well it's because he's because he's doing it with a fancy new camera that he got oh okay yeah okay so that which i'll that makes it groundbreaking or we are led to believe that it is groundbreaking because of this camera yeah okay that's the idea

[00:12:40] oh okay um it didn't yeah okay good yeah that's what i was hoping for but yeah i was hoping i was gonna be groundbreaking there was no there was no broken ground no there's no so the present seems to uh have the ability to move heavy objects and protect the daughter from someone who threatens her well sometimes i guess like sometimes it doesn't um it's like the force yeah it's like the

[00:13:06] comes and goes the presence and the force are very simultaneous in this for sure it's like i'm not gonna use my presence powers it's not right now it's not convenient to the story at this point oh right it's the story maybe it was a ghost of a woman was there a story oh there's story okay so i didn't like the whole presence vision at all most of the time it didn't even connect us properly to the ghost or the people it's just another found footage type play to give us perspective and it

[00:13:36] didn't work for me at all on top of that the ghost presence and its protection of the daughter didn't make sense for many reasons as we've already said it's got force-like presence power and by the end of this i think there was a twist that they were thinking that we would think was a twist but here's a here's a clue that was not a twist at all the music score is horrible um what i was promised was the

[00:14:05] scariest thing we would see this year nobody said that yes they advertise it in the movie what in the trailers and all the interviews we've seen from the last six months about this is the scariest movie you're gonna see it's gonna be scariest movie we're ever gonna see um yeah so i was promised the scariest thing we were gonna see this year must be true and is probably in my opinion going to be

[00:14:33] the most boring film i'm actually surprised as i thought i might become a presence at the end oh but instead i was bored to death oh so i didn't like this it was rage i thought i might die but you didn't but i didn't because i thought i was gonna be bored to death yes almost killed you this was horrible i hated this film i hated everything about it i came out of this movie

[00:15:01] and i was like what the actual fuck was that it was it murray was terrible uh yeah now let's let's let's just pump the brakes here jim all right so presence yes i'm pretty sure soderbergh got this fancy new camera and decided i need to make something with this right now as we get a tepid ghost story here from told from the point of view of the presence so we watch as the camera floats around

[00:15:30] from room to room and dozens and dozens of scenes all lasting about one to two minutes each is nothing really happens it's as boring as the scene before we watch this family go through their mundane lives and little snippets and a story sort of starts to form that story is not just a twist that story is not very interesting it involves a couple of dead girls and a douchey high school boy who's introduced

[00:15:55] early on and anyone anyone with eyes can see he is no good some obviously something's wrong with this kid yeah anyways lots of stuff floats around the rooms and lights flicker and glasses fall off tables and smash and finally a weirdly foreshadowed thing happens and then the movie ends not a spoiler but the glass in that bedroom must have been like the cheapest paper thin glass ever i can't believe how

[00:16:23] easily they just went through it like it was like the window was open it's sugar glass it's supposed to break long story short which fortunately this movie was as well at 18 minutes 85 minutes i wish it was at 85 minutes this this was a rage this was so god awful this was i i had actually for a while there soderberg had made some interesting stuff and i was always one of those guys that thought soderberg

[00:16:49] is this pseudo intellectual that is so proud of everything that he puts on screen they're like look at how clever i am oceans 13 yeah well other than when it when he do like crap i like traffic but yeah then every now and then he'd do something really good and then as of late more has been good than bad but this is a step so far backwards this was so unwatchable it was painful to watch

[00:17:16] and there's like there's things that it just starts going in certain directions then nothing's like normally i don't need to fully understand but you intentionally put things into the story and i don't know if they're red herrings or what like it was just well we're you know i i think the whole idea was this this is just their life not everything is going to be tied to this ghost story we're just watching we're just observing it's just but it was you know so it's like you know if you're

[00:17:46] if you're terribly if you're a ghost in a house everything that you see is not going to be like monumental you're going to see some really boring stuff because people's lives are boring and that's what we watched we watched some boring some boring lives the ghost watch boring people yeah who are really not i mean the dad was the only character in the movie worth rooting for yeah no he was yeah everybody else was like this character is horrible she's a horrible her son is

[00:18:14] obviously just the worst person he's the worst human that's ever lived and the fact that lucy lou is like just always on his side no matter what when when he's actually sitting there telling about the him telling the family the whole family about the horrible prank that they pulled yeah it's like and they're laughing who's talking to their parents about this this is something there's no way it's like

[00:18:39] wow and of course the dad is like so uncomfortable and it's like what this did it didn't even ring true like yeah it was everything was predictable yeah boring and horrible it was poopy yeah rage double rage yeah baby nice i can't believe you're making me do this one yeah oh my god i don't know

[00:19:05] which one he's doing the brutalist oh the brutalist the story of lazlo toth lazlo a hungarian architect who flees post-world war ii europe yes for america to rebuild his life his work and his marriage to his wife okay on his own a new country lazlo settles in pennsylvania where the wealthy and prominent

[00:19:28] industrialist harrison lee van buren i think that's dutch probably with america's going dutch that was a good movie ed o'neill talent for building he commissions lazlo to build him a super complex that helps him bring his wife to america but power and legacy came at a heavy cost i thought you liked the movie coming to america this was kind of like that not even yeah it was kind of like coming to

[00:19:54] america sort of it was about as funny as coming to america it was that'll get yeah i don't know anyway um i do not like adrian brody what i never have and probably never will there's just something about him that just creeps me out because he's like a brilliant actor no because he just a look at it he looks like a pedophile is this is this talent intimidating to you

[00:20:23] no not in the slightest remember i saw the village um it was good so having to watch him act like a complete jerk for three and a half hours is not exactly my idea of a good time all right this film was so long they actually built an intermission halfway through it yes which is it hasn't happened since hateful eight which was like i kind of like the intermission go intermission was awesome it was

[00:20:51] well when you have that picture was cool when you have a full theater and everyone's running to the bathroom at the same time it's just like going to a sporting event yeah that's why you get the extra large cup you finish it and then you don't have to go anywhere again full theater so yeah a lot of eyes um to make it worse this film was about architecture yes yes wasn't exactly a riveting subject what's that what it's about i don't know i can empathize with the main character coming to a

[00:21:17] country where everybody hates you but his abrasive and narcissistic personality didn't help he's talented guy he even treated his own wife like garbage after he fought to bring her to america guy pierce was okay i guess okay i just hated the story all right and how much it dragged on

[00:21:40] and on and on wasn't a short film that's for sure for somebody who was a complete bastard for most of the film they sure seem to love him at the end um as a talented guy ugly and ridiculous building that they spent 20 years trying to finish yes designer was probably the worst thing i've seen in architecture

[00:22:04] ever worse than that blue ring thing that we have like it was stupid i think that's an engineering that's an engineering masterpiece yeah that's awesome this lazlo guy had no business designing anything no why this is obviously an unpopular opinion considering all the oscar buzz around this film yes but i thought this was complete garbage wow plus it was three and a half hours long it was a lot of

[00:22:31] talking and walking and it had subtitles for half of it yes which is basically the worst things i hate about film and then you had to see it in vip didn't you and i paid 25 bucks to see it yeah and made four trips to the bathroom so you got your bathroom's worth yeah it's four hours of my life i will never get back it was a massive rage nice the title says it all brutal pissed brutalist nice okay bryce you're up i'm

[00:22:58] up yep i don't like going in the middle all right you're the you're the vegan patty in this in this sandwich in this brutalist sandwich you don't have a cousin patty you lied to me doink that's pretty funny throw mama from the train yeah all right so the brutalist brady corbett's the brutalist is

[00:23:23] uh what was this it is a movie about uh what was it about well i guess it was about the evils of capitalism yes is that what it was it was definitely an immigration story yes there is a lot of commentary on architecture yes is that what it was about yes maybe it is a simply a film about class

[00:23:51] system yes totally i think that maybe the fact that this is so unfocused is the reason it's so long it has a lot to say about a lot of different things yes i mean it literally covers from a to zed i mean really architecture a to zionism zed true enough so adrian brody stars as laszlo he comes to

[00:24:20] america gets exploited gets used and abused becomes a drug addict yes and then eventually using a uses an abuses others yes the american dream yes how do you not get this this is totally a to z the brutalist the only thing i really enjoyed in this whole film was a scene where the wealthy harrison lee van buren who hired laszlo to build a multi-purpose community center throws a penny at him during a dinner

[00:24:49] party in an effort to establish his superiority and then asks for the penny back a penny saved you know the rest yep that was priceless so a two-minute scene was great and the rest was just a lot of meaningless posturing as brady corbett figuratively screams from the screen

[00:25:10] look at the epic movie i made yes well i tried to say well it tried to say a lot but said very little and it was really really long but epic it was not it was a rage okay hallelujah on the same page yeah that almost never happened you know what it happens more than you

[00:25:35] think no go back and look at our you are so wrong about that merman yep you guys agree more than him and we're two sides of the same coin buddy all right well let me tell you what i thought of the brutalist all right okay so i want to say this um is what a true artist director does when he makes a film if he's doing a movie planning to be over three hours he makes it one movie and puts an intermission

[00:26:05] in the middle of it why because he's telling a single story or in bryce's case 700 stories there was a lot i don't know what this was about what with a beginning and an end and isn't trying to hollywood it by i guess extending it for no reason to make two movies you know oh you could never do that you have to wait brutalist in the brutalist too exactly for two years he should have edited the crap out of

[00:26:35] no way yes maybe he would have made more money for the studio then he's an artist not a sellout to hollywood like oh i don't know the director of wicked or kill bill or uh it part one and two films we never needed to be put into two movies yes peter jackson you could have released the lord of the rings as a nine

[00:26:59] hour movie with five intermissions one being each between each movie and one halfway through each which is a total of five intermissions we could have seen all of lord of the rings in one sitting this movie was so good he's talking about lord of the rings exactly which is also amazing that was a rage for me too so this also includes you we agree merman lord of the rings was one book

[00:27:24] when he wrote it it was one book uh-huh okay so now the story wasn't game of thrones too uh no game of thrones is like seven or eight books um this is the story they ran out it's a tv show i don't know what a game of thrones is this is the story of fictional architect laszlo toth and the era of design from the 1950s called brutalism although fiction is what it was supposed to be yep although

[00:27:52] fiction it is loosely based on influences from real life yeah of a couple of architects in particular so it's truly is a new telling of the great american dream slash nightmare and played by the always amazing adrian brody nothing is held back in this portrait of this damaged and flawed holocaust survivor his whoring and drug addiction and desire for not just a better life but a better

[00:28:22] place to call america all the while becoming slowly drained of his spirit and his soul this is a film that is needed in these times of segregation and opposing views currently in the world apparently things haven't changed much since the holocaust and we see this every day just take a look at the news guy pierce is the best i've ever seen him and this cast does a stellar job making us feel like this is a

[00:28:49] masterful biopic and not a depiction of literature i was glued to every second as bradley corbett spins a story that is compelling and interesting and heartwarming and then brutal and redeeming and satisfying with special wink to the audience that no matter how much the one percent thinks they have ownership over us the ending tells us that no matter what they say it is not about the journey it is about the

[00:29:17] destination especially when you want to leave a legacy that stands the test of time this film's destination was right in the center of a massive city called mondo i loved every single frame of this movie i love that it was three and a half hours i wished it was five i i got every point that he was trying to make i love this film i thought it was fantastic disagree i thought the common saying

[00:29:44] was it's not about the destination it is about the journey that's what i was like yes but at the end of the movie that's what but this is the opposite yeah that's what she summarizes because i hated the fucking journey and yeah then all of a sudden they have the destination where he's beloved by everybody no the the the destination in this case was that he when he talked about his architecture especially

[00:30:07] in the penny meeting that scene by the way it was brilliant it was very brilliant surprised you didn't enjoy the sex on drugs scene yeah that was good too when he got when he got yeah he got taken in the mountains well no not that one the other one where he shot his wife up with whatever it was he was dealing with heroin oh and she od'd yeah it was perfect yeah oh they had sex first of course and then

[00:30:32] she it was like the best sex they both ever had yeah it was awesome anyway i love this movie i loved everything about it yeah i hated everything and i like i like brady corbett and what he's done in the past i thought 13 was a great film for him to start his journey i want to see the brutalist too but i wish they'll just make one big yeah nine hour movie all right let's not go freaking three and a half hours with yeah let's let's move on to the best movie of the weekend there's a best movie of

[00:31:01] the weekend hey boy you're up who you and let's me i don't know i'll do it so sorry flight risk yes all right flight risk wait wait before you start yes am i gonna be sad that i didn't get to see this oh you probably will get to see it eventually oh i don't worry about that you want to pay your money and go see it go for it it'll be out for the next couple of weeks

[00:31:28] anyway feel free uh so flight risk mel gibson directs yep nice mark walberg stars is it a christian conversion catholic boys it is uh topher grace is unfortunately in it what what happened to his career uh and michelle dockery also stars as a disgraced u.s marshal who is given one more chance at

[00:31:50] redemption her task is to escort a government witness grace from alaska to somewhere i didn't catch it i think maybe new york or chicago well it's the west coast i believe they're just going to anchorage to get to get a flight somewhere else yeah but they're going to the east coast eventually but yeah they're flying out of a small town where were they going like new york chicago well they're going to anchorage which is the big i know they're going to anchorage well i don't know where what does

[00:32:18] that have to do with the price of tea in china so he's going wherever the fbi or cia or whoever there was at any rate from alaska to somewhere coast yeah so they're escorting government witness from alaska to somewhere to testify against a mob boss yeah enter mark walberg as the pilot who turns out to actually be a hit man for the i never knew that from the trailer no the trailer actually showed

[00:32:43] you that completely jim it did this is discovered thousands of feet in the air on their flight to nowhere middle of a mountain not sure why he wouldn't take care of them when he had their trust and then just dumped them in the middle of nowhere but i guess walberg's hit man is an idiot yeah he could just shot them and throw them out of the plane so perhaps walberg was born to play this role

[00:33:07] in between dumb action sequences within the confines of a crop duster with a couple of extra seats we get a flirty pilot teaching our u.s marshal the basics of how to fly a plane over the radio hitting on her at the same time that's what flirty pilots do and topher grace delivering wine after line of failed attempts at humor this 90 minute movie felt so much longer i hated every frame it is a rage

[00:33:34] no really so what did it feel longer than the brutalist yeah and the brutalist was not good y'all need a pilot yes the famous tagline yeah apparently nobody did since an incompetent deputy marshal with no flight time experience was able to do it with the help of a flirty indian dude

[00:34:03] on her satellite phone there were so many completely ridiculous and unbelievable moments in this film starting with three people on a single engine prop plane with no ambient noise who were able to hear each other perfectly without headphones what no they had to have the headphones no they did not they had them for like five they had it for like five minutes the rest of the movie

[00:34:29] they didn't wear them yeah and i've been on a pro i know practically nothing about airplanes but i've actually been on one of these little pedal jumpers yeah they're noisy as hell yes that's why they wore headphones no they didn't for like two like like two minutes of the movie the rest of the i was already not paying attention by that point okay no i was awake no they took them off there's a lot of talking in between with no headphones really i thought there was just a lot of punchy punchy there's a lot of that too i also had a problem with a hue with the gun play on this film

[00:34:59] as anybody who has seen a movie set on an airplane knows like guns are bad well if it's if it's one of these prop planes they don't go to high altitudes well anyway because it's not like um the um compression that they have on air on jets uh now pussy you know a lot more about planes than you do about guns thank you mr bond that was from goldfinger by the way yes okay even

[00:35:27] marky mark explains to the deputy that she can't fire a gun on an airplane okay then what happens he gets the gun away from her and opens fire towards her and the cockpit where leaking all the instruments are yeah but that's the thing he seemed kind of suicidal yeah well he is yeah he didn't hit anything though he didn't really care if he survived yeah i don't know what the mob had on him she refuses to

[00:35:55] shoot the bastard and dump him out over the alaskan mountains where like a bear would probably eat him well just a second here just so i make sure i understand this problem there's nothing to understand you did mark walberg's character was he like house family that they were gonna support we don't we don't we know nothing about his character didn't even have a name okay because he had a he take the took the other pilot's name and so his name and and he was he was about to give her his name and

[00:36:24] then i think she kills him or shoots him and says i don't care what your name is they never actually tell them what no flirty pilot was on the radio uh anyway uh so yeah all of this leads to even more outlandish action scenes on this little tiny plane um then there's the actual plot there was a full of as many holes as a block of swiss cheese and just as bland i could see this jesus i could

[00:36:51] see the plot twist from a mile away there's a plot twist oh yeah well sort of yeah and the ending turned this film into a die hard the only saving grace this is where i differ oh was tofer grace i found found him hilarious and enjoyed every witty one-liner he delivered this was not enough to save

[00:37:15] this film though no i really wanted to give this a man but there were too many stupid things about it so of course it's a rage yeah it was hard to watch at least it was only 90 minutes it wasn't three and a half just felt three and a half all right i'm just okay so i can't even understand

[00:37:42] how this movie could have been like what did they think this kid they could turn this into i don't know i don't know why you look at the scope of what mel gibson's directed in the past yeah this is like the most stripped down well it's because no one's given him a chance since he started talking about his feelings about the jewish community that needs a big supporter of uh the current president best thing about it is it was only maybe the indian pilot because he was funny

[00:38:06] no yeah there was nothing in this that was funny he was a funny guy i respectfully disagree you know gonna crash this plane and die and he's like asking her out hey you want to go for dinner yeah that's hilarious sounds awesome all right okay so our fifth and final movie september and you wanted to do

[00:38:30] six what are we in like the sixth hour of this yeah maybe something like that um okay so before me okay so i go last right correct so before i tell you about this movie yes okay so ultimately this is if you've seen the trailers it's it's based on history um i'm not going to get into any details about

[00:38:54] you know whether the timing was exact i'm not going to go down that road but what i am going to tell you is as we're watching this movie and we're at the point where they get transported from yeah the hotel village to the air to the airport yeah okay we're watching this movie i'm sitting sort of

[00:39:15] halfway down and in comes from the side entrance three hooded people into the theater in the theater tromping up and down on top of the stairs and they go to the very back of the cinema so they came in halfway through the movie or two-thirds of the way through yep and they walked to the

[00:39:41] very back of the movie i just looked at the back and i said nope i'm out of here so i didn't fully leave i walked down the stairs and around the corner and i watched the movie from the side of the aisle and soon after i left these two ladies came by and they said did you leave because of those people that came i said i said yeah i did i'm not gonna sit in here you see something you say something

[00:40:06] yeah because first off they joined the movie and the what this movie is about and what's going on in the world right now and i'm in a city all about the israelian palestines which has been going on for 100 years exactly but it's there's a lot more things that's been escalated yeah i didn't want to take any chances especially i'm in a city i'm not familiar with sometimes so i was like nope wasn't gonna do it and then so this poor young kid he's about i guess he's probably 21 he comes in because the ladies went

[00:40:34] and told him and he comes into the cinema and he sees me standing aside and he says are you okay what's going on i said told him to explain the situation and i said be very careful i do not know what these guys are about but you're not paid enough to deal with this wearing wearing your um cineplex jersey as we're sitting there waiting so he kind of kept looking around but what are you gonna do in that

[00:40:59] situation this kid like like for all we knew these guys could have been packing heat and decided to kill the whole cinema on everybody yes like i wasn't about so anyway i did see the movie but needless to say the last part of the movie i was thinking more about my life than i was thinking about which kind of is fitting for this movie yeah yes so this film is almost like a documentary as we get the live

[00:41:28] footage of the 72 olympics spliced into a dramatic reenactment of the control room and the as the events unfold this film was intense it was so real feeling and very technical from a studio perspective which i'm sure murray understood every single thing from the technical side of this i was just

[00:41:50] enthralled by how the tension was in this it was terrifyingly breathtaking i love this movie i wanted to talk about it with you guys but i love this movie there's not the story is just what it is there's not really more you can say about this movie it's the events it's intense i change them i was glued to this see i'm old enough that i i actually saw the original broadcast of this and my parents used to

[00:42:17] watch the news every day so i saw this and then seeing it again it's just like wow like the first time yeah that this happened in real i think one of the lines they use in the movie was uh after the thing was more people watch that event than watch the moon landing yeah yeah it was like a billion people back in 72 and it was just it was just it was the olympics it was just sports yeah but yeah then

[00:42:42] something happened yeah and i mean it's the sports team it's the sports crew yeah that filmed it because they're right across the street yeah but there was no news crew there which i thought was no well there was no news because in in the olympics they everything's limited to certain things and it's just sports that is there yeah so they didn't have it like compound after compound after compound of issues that have happened through this but i loved it it it brought back memories of saturday

[00:43:08] night for me too i was like the intensity of the film and how it's yeah it was yeah all right all right well i'm happy you liked it i wish i had seen it with you yeah me too uh for those who have seen spielberg's munich this is the same story except um this one stop uh it stops where yeah this one stops where the other film begins like munich is more about the revenge yeah afterwards um

[00:43:38] yeah it was uh center fifth was the media coverage by the abc sports crew who were literally right across the street from the athletes village and they're quick thinking to bring the story to millions of people as it happened uh i was 17 months old when this happened so obviously i don't remember it yep i was born sperm and egg that's right even though as somebody who worked in broadcasting for 20 years

[00:44:06] and was part of a broadcast team for two separate olympics i was absolutely riveted by every scene in this film i still don't know how they got a 2 000 pound studio camera up a grassy hill to point it at the building where the hostages were and the fact that peter jennings was hiding in the adjacent building

[00:44:31] from the police and the terrorists and the fact that 1972 they were still shooting on film and developing it in the studio with lightning fast speeds to get it on the air there was no videotape back then um fascinating i just i because yeah i wasn't alive back then but yeah it was it was amazing

[00:44:52] um those technical things aside i thought this film was amazing all the performance were solid the action was intense and i felt like i was watching it unfold in real time i may be biased based on my background but this has been my favorite film of 2025 so far even though it came out last year

[00:45:17] uh yeah it was my first mondo of the year i freaking loved it nice all right bracy poo what'd you think of september 5th september 5th the movie takes us back to that date in 1972 where abc sports broadcasters were thrust into the role of covering something that they had not planned on as black september a

[00:45:42] palestinian militant group converged on the olympic village killed two israeli athletes and took nine more hostage from here we are taken behind the scenes as the sports team covers this event that the whole world is watching for a very different reason now this is purely a screenplay that is not trying to make a major statement about the state of the world but is rather simply a journalism suspense thriller with snappy dialogue intense situations as the sports team grapples with their responsibility as

[00:46:09] journalists in this uncharted water the film also seemed to get a lot right from the simple things such as wardrobe and set design right through the details of tv production in the early 70s with the film being transported around to the manufacture of logos to be placed in the frame while shooting them um also you know the rapid developing of the 16 millimeter film to be shown live on the air the performance in this are all solid with no real standouts because just because everybody's so

[00:46:38] solid the story hums along and feels genuine and i like the fact that the film just deals with the events that the sports broadcast team had to deal with without adding any extra commentary this was a well-made film that took me back to the early 70s effectively and provided the tension of some of the great journalism films of the past such as spotlight or all the president's men of course it was not as

[00:47:00] good as those films but it is a very high math what do you think caused it to not be to be only a man i think it was too short no i wasn't too short it was just longer i don't it just it didn't affect me quite as deeply as i apparently it affected you two i i it was good everybody was good in it and that's

[00:47:21] the whole thing everything was good i enjoyed it all right strap in kitties this week the merman is raging what over the weekend i saw three films which is a lot more than i usually get to see yes i got to hang out with my friend from toronto so that was good problem is he is obsessed with the vip aspect of

[00:47:50] today's movie theater experience whereas i am a cheap tuesday kind of a guy um i guess they don't have he's i don't know he claims they don't have those in the center of the universe or maybe he doesn't get to them but he enjoys it and he's here but uh so we went to the vip cinema in our fair city to see the brutalist which is three and a half hours long between the 25 movie

[00:48:20] ticket the snacks and the dinner i was forced to have in their lounge due to the overcrowding in the pubs next door it was easily a 60 night to see this movie that i hated of course we sat at the very back row at the top that's where i said as i mentioned i went to the bathroom four times and it was a very long climb every damn time it's good for you but the only bonus

[00:48:48] is uh when i went i was eating dinner in the lounge i asked her if i can get a refill on the soda and she said yes i ordered the large soda i drank that with my with my meal and then i got a refill to go into the theater but then when i came back out i basically was drinking water the rest of the night but i still went to the bathroom four times um naturally the theater was packed this just opened here last

[00:49:11] weekend and it was after the austral nominations came out on tonight too back to landmark once again we had to sit in the premium vip seats another i sit there another 25 bill luckily the snacks were a lot cheaper because you know i have a discount yeah plus you get a hook for your coat i didn't notice a

[00:49:37] difference between my seat and the one above me they look the same to me they're wider i doubt it they are as a man who is who sits in those seats very regularly those are much wider yeah but the other seat was ten dollars cheaper which i would have been happy with which brings me you didn't have a for your coat storage area it was cold and a table get a table i need a table everybody needs a table

[00:50:06] put stuff anyway this is stupidest thing i've ever heard anyway whatever my point money will spend yesterday i went back to cineplex all right for cheap tuesday yes five dollar according to the promotion on their website a general admission movie ticket and a small popcorn was supposed to be five dollars five dollar or so i thought what after waiting in line for 10 minutes to finally talk to the geriatric behind the counter i checked the website again hey i wasn't

[00:50:35] behind apparently this guy was like 70. apparently the ticket and the popcorn were five each each a small popcorn is only six bucks regularly so you saved a buck so i didn't buy the popcorn and the movie i was going to see was flight risk which was playing in avx oh well then you got to pay

[00:50:59] the difference price was not applicable they also raised the price for cheap tuesday from 8.50 that it used to be to almost 10 dollars which is the same price if you belong to their scene club i belong so by the time i paid for the ticket and the soda it was still 15 dollars this infuriated me that's a good deal sure level of price gouging that cineplex in particular

[00:51:29] has been bringing forth is practically criminal five dollar tuesday yeah not anymore just wait until we have to pay for that stupid screen x yes oh my god needless to say i will be bringing my own everything from now on including my own drink which i didn't do last time yeah they're gonna charge me 20 bucks for a movie ticket i sure as hell can't afford

[00:51:54] well no regular a regular movie is 17 without they don't really they don't really make much on the movie ticket it's it's the concessions if i gotta pay 20 bucks for a movie i'm not sure as i can't afford to buy popcorn fair enough i will i will i will buy twice the popcorn then murray yes because i need i need the cinema to stay alive yeah i do not that rate they're screwing the little man that's all i can say the brutalist taught me everything anything

[00:52:23] it's that every penny counts that's right apparently we don't even have pennies taught me all kinds of things yes architecture can be forever yeah well architecture is just as boring on the big screen is what my architecture temperature rising vision blurring rage taking over the funny noises

[00:53:02] my rage this week okay so my rage is really actually a very complex one i'm gonna try to put in very simple words for everybody i had i had probably 20 different things that i could have raged about this week but the thing that made me the most annoyed is when i went to the brutalist yeah i was annoyed by the brutalist no i love the i love the brutalist um was

[00:53:28] the brutalist was they shortened the amount of commercials and trailers before the movie usually we get 20 minutes of trailers and commercials oh that was totally and we got 12 yeah and i only got one ozempic commercial i think so my i got my regular amount no the one i at the vi at the toronto vip cinema that i saw that yeah i only got 12 minutes of commercials

[00:53:55] and trailers and trailers and i wanted a full 20 minutes if i'm gonna be there for three and a half hours i want my full 20 minutes of trailers and commercials come on that's my rage and i want more i want more than one ozempic your rage is always that there's too much commercials i don't understand what's going on i'm watching a three and a half hour movie i gotta have enough trailers and commercials don't limit the amount it's because your movie's three and a half hours the only thing

[00:54:22] good about 15 minutes of trailers at a vip cinema is it almost gives them time to deliver all that damn food that people order yeah not quite because they were still doing it in the dark as the movie was playing so yeah they didn't and the 15 minute intermission not enough time to order more food and it's 12 minutes marie i only got 12 minutes of trailers there you go and one ozempic commercial how many people around you were ordering food that you had to have waiters standing in front of you

[00:54:50] when the movie was i wasn't watching i was so yeah i don't really have a rage this week because

[00:55:18] usually i have a rage because just being around you two when i go to the movies brings out the rage but didn't have you guys you guys are like the spark that ignites the rage flame but you guys weren't there so i got to just have a really relaxing weekend at the movies it was it was delightful i don't think you've ever had it took me it took me back to the days where i just went to movies by myself and

[00:55:44] oh man do i ever miss those days from the old right i do you know what to be fair i almost never go to movies with you anymore i tell you i i can tell you one thing he hasn't raged about us for one time for almost going on five and a half years no but you're you're just the spark that ignites the rage in me i don't even realize but i now i do because i had a whole weekend without you two yokels

[00:56:14] and it was it was so delightful i really enjoyed my my time alone well short-lived yeah we're gonna be out monday night all right fine you freaking cold for me to go out yeah it's gonna be minus 30 yeah something like that

[00:56:31] last time on rage or dare our little b baby boy bryce after of course complaining like a baby

[00:56:54] pulled an uve bowl classic oh man that is an oxyboron if there ever was one when he pulled in the name of the king a dungeon siege tale from 2007 this week it's back to jim for his turn to rage or dare now let's check in with bryce and see if it is as we expected an uve bowl movie

[00:57:19] i think that's about enough other than come on bryce honestly that is enough it's an uve bowl movie i mean like you don't really need to talk about it you know it's gonna be garbage um i'm just gonna try to recap it as best i i watched it last night i haven't prepared anything for this but let's see if i can remember what what i watched so many stars in this movie yeah there's jason statham john reece davis ray leota

[00:57:50] burt reynolds braun perlman i mean really there are and then you you know then you got your b b stars matthew lillard and leely sobieski yeah but anyway so jason statham is in this and the movie kind of opens and he is a farmer and his name is farmer so that was good comedian yeah is this original or was it written off a book i don't know this it's an uve bowl

[00:58:18] movie so you know what it's based on a video game yes dungeon siege is a video game and that's what this is based on apparently so anyways farmer wants nothing to do with the kingdom but the kingdom's battling these troll guys and these troll guys are controlled by ray leota and ray leota can like

[00:58:45] stand in like a dungeon and control like one guy of these troll guys and he can kind of bounce from guy to guy i guess even though they're like their own beings i don't know how that works so then at one point farmer kills one of the guys and then and then he just goes into like another one of the guys

[00:59:10] so anyways yeah that's what i'm saying it's very confusing i'm already confused so the whole deal is matthew lillard wants to be king so he partners up with ray leota who's like a wizard type guy and that sounds awesome and they end up fighting farmer and some like for no reason pixie

[00:59:34] chicks that like the pixie chicks were in it that like live in the forest but they don't want anything to do with the outside world but because now all of a sudden the outside world's coming into their world they're gonna fight with farmer and it turns out the farmer it's like gladiator 2 farmer was like

[00:59:56] a like separated at when he was like a young young little tyke from his father and his father his father who by the way is burt reynolds and he's the king nice he got separated and they didn't know each other existed and then jonathan reese davis goes he goes hey dude your your dad's burt reynolds

[01:00:22] and you're actually like next in line for the king not matthew lillard what and he's like no no that sounds stupid i don't think that's true i don't think i'm next in line for the king that's but then it's like eventually he's like all right i'll be king because eventually uh lillard poisons burt reynolds who's the king and he doesn't die immediately but then he does die and now

[01:00:49] farmers it's king farmer this is some game of thrones shit right here yeah so so uh burt reynolds yes is dead who looks like i don't know what the hell's going on with his face in this he's like all dying well no he's like he's all he's got like makeup on or something because he looks weird maybe he's just had half troll i don't know at any rate so then uh castle freak so then some some weird wizard stuff

[01:01:15] happens and there's some books that fly around at one point and they fall on farmer but farmer you know like just kind of you know just brushes the books away because of their books and so it's like the presence and then eventually lili sobieski comes in and she's got like magical powers too that she's been given from jonathan reese davies who's her dad because when he dies he's like take the rest

[01:01:43] of my power so before he dies she like takes the rest of his power did she take it or no you're interrupting here so then when when farmer finally goes after ray liota right he can't he can't he's he's a wizard dude so he can't really fight him other than the fact that you know he's just like throwing books on him but that's okay because lili sobieski comes in and sort of like with her power

[01:02:08] shoots some stuff at her and at at ray liota laser beams yeah like laser beams or like lightning or i don't know what like the battle in the raven is that the force lightning so then like stuff's happening and he's like distracted and while he's distracted farmer like stabs him and then he dies and then and then farmers now he's he's king he's the king in in the name of the king a dungeon siege tale this

[01:02:35] sounds awesome it was really awful i hated this movie i'm probably getting it wrong this is how i remember it to describe the entire plot i remember a very little but apparently enough but uve bowl wow i mean you gotta you gotta give it to the guy the guy the guy had a decades long career and he found people to invest in his movies over and over and over again well you've seen the

[01:03:02] documentary yeah and it's crazy and that's the that's the best thing that's ever happened for uve bowl is that document that that documentary is great it it's like wow it's like i can't believe that he convinced these total nimbuses to invest in his movies but yeah like a-list actors yeah i don't understand like jason statham i mean how and ray liota and jonathan reese davies what were you thinking like why would you involve three of those guys are like at the end of their

[01:03:31] careers burt reynolds was almost dead when he did this maybe that's why the makeup was there yeah maybe but he was he's awful in this by the way just holy crap is he bad in this you thought he was bad like i'm i mean honestly what has he done where he hasn't been bad maybe two or three movies i like breaking in he was okay i can't think of anything else wasn't he in wkrp incident snotty once no that was his

[01:03:57] wife that was his wife london anderson i don't think he does no tv he was never in the same thing aren't they london and no and burt reynolds no and they got a divorce but they were they were yeah they did get in a divorce but they were in an excellent movie together was it stroker ace was maybe i think they were in that case not stroker i say stroker i'm sure it's stroker no i think it's

[01:04:22] stroker i'm pretty sure it's stroker it's a nascar movie just like your six-pack while you're talking about that i'm gonna love my oh by the way this was a rage oh okay yeah no really yeah this is this was really really bad kind of a thing it was so bad all right i oh he was good in boogie nights yeah he got nominated for an oscar yeah yeah no burt reynolds was good in boogie nights but that was it

[01:04:46] i like him that and uh that uh breaking in i kind of like that movie that one it's just like a he's a that's enough of that all right oh i'm kind of looking forward to who are you who did you go out of my bag yeah oh you you i get to see from 2018 that's probably the best movie in my bag i know i'm kind of excited i i get to laugh at john travolta yes good luck with that yeah no god he's awful in

[01:05:14] which sorry i wasn't paying attention gotti gotti oh oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i never saw it yeah you're lucky it's supposedly uh i have unfortunately nicholas peleggi based yeah i've seen good fellows on i seem to remember liking it you did not you oh goodness not it was like a movie that was um that was a good time i'm glad i'm back

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