Episode 263 - Blumhouse does it again

[00:00:02] It's true. We're poopy.

[00:00:05] Totally poopy.

[00:00:06] It's time to feel the rage!

[00:00:08] Welcome to Film Rage where we talk movies in theaters, streaming and classic films as well.

[00:00:16] Directors and actors beware as you cannot hide from the rage.

[00:00:20] My name is Bryson and I'm part of the Film Rage crew which also includes Jim.

[00:00:24] Hey there Jim. Hey hey hey, Brass. I'm feeling poopy.

[00:00:28] Excellent. And also we have the Merman who is part of the Kings of Leon crew, whatever that means.

[00:00:36] The entourage, that's right.

[00:00:37] So you big fan of Kings of Leon?

[00:00:39] Never.

[00:00:40] You must have heard some of their music while you're moving their stuff around.

[00:00:44] No music.

[00:00:45] I kind of like Kings of Leon.

[00:00:46] Did you go like after the cut? I don't understand.

[00:00:48] They don't let us in until the concert's over.

[00:00:51] Really?

[00:00:51] Yeah.

[00:00:52] So you just stand there outside?

[00:00:53] We just sit outside. Yeah, it rained last week and they made us stand outside.

[00:00:56] But you get paid to get rained on? Yeah.

[00:00:59] Okay, well that's all right.

[00:01:00] I sometimes...

[00:01:01] So did you meet the Kings of Leon? Did you meet the King?

[00:01:04] Couldn't tell you. I had no idea who they are.

[00:01:05] I guess there's more than one. Are they all Kings?

[00:01:08] Sure, they must be.

[00:01:09] 100%.

[00:01:09] I didn't see anything with the crown so...

[00:01:12] They're right.

[00:01:13] I don't know.

[00:01:15] I got three hours sleep. Let's move on.

[00:01:19] I kind of want to talk about the Kings of Leon.

[00:01:22] I kind of want to talk about getting rained on.

[00:01:25] I sometimes pay people to do that for me.

[00:01:28] Yeah, that's a different sort of thing.

[00:01:31] Really quite different, Jim.

[00:01:36] So with the introductions out of the way, let's brage on.

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[00:02:19] Now, let's get to raging.

[00:02:21] What the amazing moment predict?

[00:02:31] What the amazing moment predict?

[00:02:33] Will he predict the rage or will he predict the wonder?

[00:02:37] Will he tell us all what Jim and Brice are at the movies?

[00:02:42] Well, you know what, kids?

[00:02:45] Here he comes swimming to you.

[00:02:48] Ooh, swimmery, swimmery.

[00:02:54] Swimmery, swimmery.

[00:02:58] Swimmery, swimmery.

[00:03:01] Swim, swim, swim, swim, swim.

[00:03:06] I never have ever wanted to stop the recording button in my life.

[00:03:10] You know, most of our listeners, it's their favorite segment.

[00:03:13] I hate it so much.

[00:03:14] I have no idea how much I hate it.

[00:03:17] Yeah, so four movies.

[00:03:20] I actually saw three of them.

[00:03:22] Yeah, you did.

[00:03:22] Mostly because Brice had better things to do.

[00:03:25] That's right.

[00:03:26] Well, that's debatable.

[00:03:28] But you know, other things to do then.

[00:03:30] I wish I had those things to do.

[00:03:31] I didn't have anything to do.

[00:03:32] But mom's in town.

[00:03:34] Exactly.

[00:03:34] I love your mom.

[00:03:36] I wish I could have gone to the movies.

[00:03:37] She went to three movies too, Merman.

[00:03:39] I said let her invite us.

[00:03:41] We should have invited your mom on the podcast this week.

[00:03:44] I mean, how often does that happen?

[00:03:46] Yeah, it could have happened, but there are extenuating circumstances that she's not here.

[00:03:51] Is she here for another month?

[00:03:52] Because maybe we'll get her on next week.

[00:03:54] I think she's here for like three or four months.

[00:03:56] Three years?

[00:03:56] Here's her Christmas.

[00:03:57] Yeah, Italy stuck with her.

[00:03:59] Nice, there you go.

[00:04:00] Perfect.

[00:04:01] All right, what do we see, Mer?

[00:04:02] Well, in order on here, we've got Afraid with a capital A-I as in Afraid of A-I,

[00:04:10] which is what I definitely am.

[00:04:12] Capital A, F-R.

[00:04:14] Yeah.

[00:04:14] Capital A, capital I, D.

[00:04:17] But the capital is not usually in the middle of the word.

[00:04:20] No.

[00:04:20] That's where the emphasis was on the A-I.

[00:04:23] The emphasis?

[00:04:23] The emphasis on the salabel.

[00:04:25] Right.

[00:04:27] Yeah, this thing was a piece of crap.

[00:04:30] I'm pretty sure you both raged on it.

[00:04:32] Oh, that's bold.

[00:04:34] That's super bold.

[00:04:35] Oh well.

[00:04:37] But didn't you hear us laughing?

[00:04:39] It doesn't matter.

[00:04:42] OK.

[00:04:44] 1992 or I believe it's called April 29, 1992 or something.

[00:04:48] The full title is the actual date.

[00:04:50] No, it's just 1992.

[00:04:51] No, when I typed it in, it came up under the date.

[00:04:56] It might have been that title.

[00:04:57] It was done two years ago.

[00:04:59] Yeah, maybe three or four years ago.

[00:05:01] No, it was actually a fair way of raising.

[00:05:04] Yeah, we had a little heist, a little Rodney King stuff,

[00:05:07] and a little bit of die-hard.

[00:05:10] Yeah.

[00:05:11] It didn't suck.

[00:05:12] I think maybe a double man.

[00:05:14] Double man.

[00:05:15] We got the Gipper.

[00:05:19] Reagan.

[00:05:22] Ronald, the life and times of Ronald Reagan.

[00:05:25] Oh, the Gipper.

[00:05:26] The Gip.

[00:05:27] Yeah, that's got to be a rage all around.

[00:05:30] I would be very surprised if it wasn't.

[00:05:33] And funny the one I had no freaking clue about.

[00:05:36] I just watched the trailer 10 minutes ago

[00:05:38] across the river and into the trees,

[00:05:40] which is almost as long as the movie itself.

[00:05:44] What the hell?

[00:05:45] Double Mando.

[00:05:46] Double Mando.

[00:05:47] Double Mando.

[00:05:48] Wow, that's actually a movie that's set on the shelf for quite a while.

[00:05:51] Yeah, there's a lot of shelf sitters going on.

[00:05:53] You know what that means.

[00:05:55] Usually it means they're bad.

[00:05:56] It means it's dusty.

[00:05:59] Dusty and crusty just like us.

[00:06:01] You know the war with grandpa side on the shelf for quite a while.

[00:06:06] Murray's favorite movie.

[00:06:06] I liked the war with grandpa.

[00:06:07] He loved the war with grandpa.

[00:06:08] I'm just saying.

[00:06:08] That's what I'm saying.

[00:06:09] You liked it.

[00:06:10] It was mad.

[00:06:11] I wasn't so bad.

[00:06:12] It was terrible.

[00:06:14] What are you talking about?

[00:06:15] Those kids jumping on the trampolines was awesome.

[00:06:17] The only good part was Christopher Walken.

[00:06:20] Christopher Walken when he's one line.

[00:06:23] Do you remember what it was?

[00:06:24] Yes, I do.

[00:06:27] He died in his sleep while skydiving.

[00:06:34] He hit right there.

[00:06:36] See that's worth a man right there.

[00:06:38] Exactly.

[00:06:39] Okay, so off for EID.

[00:06:44] So look, I'm going straight to the point here.

[00:06:48] Nothing is new.

[00:06:49] If you can imagine what happens in this based on the trailer,

[00:06:53] that's exactly what is going to happen.

[00:06:56] At no point in this was I surprised by anything that happens.

[00:06:59] The things I did like about this was of course our little crush.

[00:07:05] Or should I say crush boy David Deschmallion.

[00:07:08] Deschmallion.

[00:07:09] Deschmallion.

[00:07:10] Deschmallion.

[00:07:11] Deschmallion.

[00:07:12] Deschmallion.

[00:07:13] At any rate, there was nowhere near enough of him.

[00:07:16] Yeah, there's never.

[00:07:17] You know what?

[00:07:17] It doesn't matter if there's a movie that's just him on the stage doing nothing.

[00:07:23] That's still not enough.

[00:07:24] It needs to be longer.

[00:07:26] As always, he is spectacular.

[00:07:29] John Cho, our favorite Harold from Harold and Kumar is his usual pretty great stuff.

[00:07:36] But apparently he's now in bed with Bloom House.

[00:07:40] This is the second Bloom House we've seen.

[00:07:42] Oh yeah.

[00:07:43] If you remember, he was in the Grudge remake.

[00:07:46] Until you said that, I'm like what?

[00:07:48] I'm like oh the Grudge.

[00:07:50] He was the Grudge.

[00:07:51] Oh no.

[00:07:52] The best John Cho.

[00:07:53] Why?

[00:07:54] Why are you doing this?

[00:07:56] So yeah, we probably can expect more of that.

[00:08:00] And I just want to say a hug for that.

[00:08:03] Although I love John Cho.

[00:08:04] So you know what?

[00:08:05] I'm okay with him.

[00:08:07] All together, while everything is unfolding in this, I didn't hate the experience.

[00:08:11] I mean the kids all do a pretty good job which is very rare in an acting situation with kids.

[00:08:18] Doing their canned rolls.

[00:08:20] There is some humor throughout both because of the stupid and the actual funny.

[00:08:24] So I did laugh quite a bit through this.

[00:08:26] So I would say don't expect to be wowed.

[00:08:30] Set your expectations really low like you should for all PG-13 Bloom House films.

[00:08:37] And although I came out of this no different than I did going into it,

[00:08:41] I didn't want to kill anyone or hate the tech stuff too much so I guess it was a little man.

[00:08:47] I didn't hate it.

[00:08:48] But I'm guessing this was written by chatGPT.

[00:08:52] Like if this wasn't written by chatGPT, I'd be surprised.

[00:08:55] I have some unpacking but I want to hear what you two say.

[00:08:58] Oh I get it next to a...

[00:09:01] So another PG horror movie from Bloom House.

[00:09:04] Yes.

[00:09:05] From Bloom House.

[00:09:06] Bum House, whatever.

[00:09:07] Bloom House.

[00:09:08] That means it starts at a rage for me.

[00:09:11] Yeah me too.

[00:09:12] It has to work its way up to a man.

[00:09:14] And did it?

[00:09:15] Did that happen?

[00:09:16] Well let's find out.

[00:09:17] Yes.

[00:09:18] So no blood or on-screen violence.

[00:09:21] No.

[00:09:22] Rage.

[00:09:24] Going CLS to make you want to do bodily harm to them.

[00:09:28] Rage.

[00:09:28] What?

[00:09:29] I hated them all.

[00:09:32] Incoherent storyline with the lame dialogue and lazy writing.

[00:09:36] Rage.

[00:09:37] It's chatGPT.

[00:09:38] But wait.

[00:09:39] Oh what was it?

[00:09:40] What?

[00:09:40] John Cho.

[00:09:41] What?

[00:09:42] It's the handsome leading man slash baby daddy.

[00:09:45] He is pretty handsome.

[00:09:46] I love me some heraldly slash subu from Star Trek.

[00:09:51] Slash John Cho.

[00:09:52] John Cho.

[00:09:53] And that Star Trek.

[00:09:54] Yeah it was the three Star Trek movies.

[00:09:57] George Tekai.

[00:09:58] Yeah this is the original Star Wars.

[00:10:00] Get whip it.

[00:10:00] That's right.

[00:10:01] And don't even talk about who was the Sulu in the next generation.

[00:10:08] I don't think there was one.

[00:10:09] I don't think there was one.

[00:10:10] It was like 10.

[00:10:11] How disappointing is that?

[00:10:12] There was like 10 spasks but I think there was only one.

[00:10:14] Yeah exactly.

[00:10:15] Anyway and that creepy dude David Whatts's name.

[00:10:18] Yes.

[00:10:19] Score.

[00:10:20] Still not enough to save this film.

[00:10:24] What?

[00:10:25] Still a rage.

[00:10:26] Oh my.

[00:10:26] The only thing scary about this film is the fact that AI will eventually take over

[00:10:30] the world and make us their bitches.

[00:10:33] That's true.

[00:10:34] I don't know about anybody else but it makes me want to build a cabin in the woods

[00:10:38] and hide from technology.

[00:10:40] I love cabins in the woods.

[00:10:41] Scary stuff kids.

[00:10:43] Yeah it was a rage.

[00:10:44] All right.

[00:10:45] I'm just tired of just bland horror that does nothing.

[00:10:50] At no point was this.

[00:10:51] This is supposed to be a horror movie at no point was it scary whatsoever.

[00:10:55] No not at all.

[00:10:56] It is this movie is utterly forgettable if you were to ask me other than the fact

[00:11:01] that it's got AI in the title.

[00:11:03] I remember that.

[00:11:04] I might remember that DAS Melchions was in it but I hope I forget.

[00:11:09] Lightning.

[00:11:09] Because this was just like I if you ask me about this movie in a week I won't

[00:11:14] know what it was.

[00:11:15] I mean I wasn't about let's chest it now because it's okay so well it's been a

[00:11:21] couple of days been I don't know.

[00:11:23] It was two days.

[00:11:24] Okay so this movie was about I think John chose character works for like a

[00:11:32] I don't even know what he works for is the way I think he works for advertising.

[00:11:36] Yeah okay I did you're helping me out here.

[00:11:40] Okay sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry.

[00:11:41] Okay so he's in the advertising game and why this company is trying to hire

[00:11:48] these guys to advertise for them is beyond me because at some point they

[00:11:52] buy them.

[00:11:54] So why would you buy the like that makes no sense.

[00:11:58] Well it does if you watch it to the end of the movie but then you've already

[00:12:02] for the end of the movie so what happened at the end I don't even

[00:12:05] remember well she basically is everything and everyone is everything

[00:12:09] everywhere you can't escape.

[00:12:10] She's everywhere all at once that so she owns everything.

[00:12:13] She is everywhere she has no physical body.

[00:12:17] She controls everybody in the world.

[00:12:20] Yeah so you can't get away from her.

[00:12:21] So that's the horror right there.

[00:12:23] That's the horror right there.

[00:12:24] That's not a horrors.

[00:12:25] Oh really?

[00:12:25] Wait till it happens.

[00:12:26] Wait till it happens buddy.

[00:12:29] Anyways I don't know.

[00:12:31] I honestly barely remember and I stayed awake through this one.

[00:12:35] I was awake through the whole thing.

[00:12:36] Yeah you were.

[00:12:37] It was like 90 minutes and it was in the middle of the day.

[00:12:39] You know what that's that's the one thing that almost made me not rage.

[00:12:42] I think it was like 83 minutes.

[00:12:43] It was like the shortest movie we've watched in a while.

[00:12:46] It's actually the length that any horror movie should be but it was bad.

[00:12:51] Like it was just.

[00:12:53] I laughed a lot at this movie.

[00:12:55] There was nothing there though.

[00:12:57] It was so bland and just.

[00:12:59] It was the experience for me because there's so much.

[00:13:02] Okay you know what we got to stop giving me as based on the fact

[00:13:05] that we're having a good time watching a bad movie.

[00:13:08] Like that has become a thing with us

[00:13:11] and it's not helping anybody out there.

[00:13:14] Well if you go with your bed.

[00:13:16] I'm sorry jib a rage is a rage.

[00:13:19] Whether you're watching it with your buddies

[00:13:21] and having a good time or not it's still a rage.

[00:13:24] Okay it's true it is.

[00:13:27] I just wanted to see how far I can string.

[00:13:30] This movie is really horrible.

[00:13:32] It's awful.

[00:13:34] But I had so much fun.

[00:13:36] It was because we hadn't seen a movie together in a while.

[00:13:40] It was like it was.

[00:13:41] We have a good time.

[00:13:43] There's no question.

[00:13:44] Yeah laughing at it.

[00:13:46] Laughing at it.

[00:13:47] We're making some gestures with our hands.

[00:13:53] It was good times.

[00:13:55] The movie was still awful.

[00:13:57] It's a rage.

[00:13:58] It's poopy.

[00:13:59] I'm sorry everybody.

[00:14:00] I'm sorry everybody.

[00:14:02] Alright well okay let's talk about 1992.

[00:14:07] Alright.

[00:14:08] Remember that.

[00:14:08] A heist film?

[00:14:10] Yes.

[00:14:11] Jim's favorites are heist films.

[00:14:14] Are they?

[00:14:14] Really?

[00:14:14] No that's not a thing.

[00:14:16] In fact most heist films,

[00:14:18] most heist films I can't even stomach.

[00:14:22] But then this heist film

[00:14:26] is executive produced by none other

[00:14:29] than the dog himself.

[00:14:31] Snoop Dogg.

[00:14:32] That's right.

[00:14:33] He executive produced it.

[00:14:35] It threw his name on it then.

[00:14:37] And stars.

[00:14:39] He was at a party with someone and they said

[00:14:41] you want to be an executive producer.

[00:14:43] He said sure.

[00:14:44] Sure there's 100 grand.

[00:14:45] It's about Rodney King

[00:14:47] and he's like count me in.

[00:14:50] That's what happened.

[00:14:51] That's exactly what happened.

[00:14:53] Yeah of course he was.

[00:14:54] And it stars Tyrese Gibson as the lead

[00:14:56] and Christopher Emanuel

[00:14:59] as his son who are both brilliant in this film.

[00:15:04] And also this has the once fantastic Ray Leota

[00:15:10] in his final film.

[00:15:11] I think it's gotta be his final film

[00:15:12] unless there's another 72 films.

[00:15:14] No I think this is the last one we're going to see him in.

[00:15:18] This one's the one that trickled out last somehow.

[00:15:20] It wasn't even.

[00:15:21] Was this recorded before the bear one?

[00:15:23] This was done after the bear.

[00:15:24] I think this was done after it.

[00:15:26] Maybe it wasn't.

[00:15:30] This one was shelved a little bit

[00:15:32] but not as long as some of the other ones.

[00:15:33] He put a pin in it and I will explain that later.

[00:15:35] Okay perfect.

[00:15:37] So the idea of holding a heist film

[00:15:40] at the same time as the LA Riots

[00:15:43] was a good concept.

[00:15:44] And does a good job of contrasting the heist content

[00:15:47] alongside of the disparity

[00:15:49] of the time that this takes place.

[00:15:52] The heist part as usual, I could take it or leave it.

[00:15:55] But the story of father and son

[00:15:57] and the message of redemption

[00:15:58] and second chances in a world that doesn't give them very often

[00:16:03] is done very well.

[00:16:05] This is a lot of the idiocy

[00:16:07] normally surrounding heist films

[00:16:09] but as much as I like ladies who kick ass and punch dicks

[00:16:13] I like marginalized communities

[00:16:16] who kick ass and punch dicks even more

[00:16:18] especially angry mother fuckers

[00:16:21] and Tareese Gibson does an amazing job in this.

[00:16:24] I freaking love that guy after seeing this movie

[00:16:26] I'm gonna go back and watch all the Fast and the Furious

[00:16:29] franchise with new eyes.

[00:16:31] No you're not because he's a clown in those

[00:16:34] and you don't want to remember him that way Jim.

[00:16:36] That's true but what I do want is I want to see him

[00:16:39] in more stuff now.

[00:16:40] That's absolutely.

[00:16:41] Absolutely.

[00:16:42] I want to see more of him.

[00:16:42] Because I didn't think he could act.

[00:16:44] When you watch Fast and the Furious

[00:16:46] it's like...

[00:16:47] Nobody in that movie acts.

[00:16:48] Well yeah they're all terrible.

[00:16:50] So this is a math for me.

[00:16:52] I couldn't get it to Amando

[00:16:53] just because there's too much high stuff that's all idiotic

[00:16:56] but man I got me some Tareese bone going on now.

[00:17:02] Alright.

[00:17:05] Yeah 1992

[00:17:07] this film was really two different movies.

[00:17:11] On the one hand we have Tareese

[00:17:13] who has a badass ex-con

[00:17:15] who is trying to raise his ungrateful son

[00:17:17] in a tough LA neighborhood.

[00:17:20] Then the Rodney King riots happened.

[00:17:23] It was an emotional and painfully accurate portrayal

[00:17:27] of the racial problems that existed in 1992

[00:17:29] for African Americans.

[00:17:31] Specifically by the police they were supposed to protect them.

[00:17:35] That scene when they got pulled over was just...

[00:17:37] Horrifying.

[00:17:38] Intense yeah like basically his son

[00:17:40] basically learned right there

[00:17:41] what the real world was all about.

[00:17:44] Yeah his dad did nothing wrong

[00:17:45] and they were basically ready to freaking shoot him.

[00:17:48] Yep.

[00:17:50] As the riots going on too...

[00:17:53] Yeah during the riot he's driving yeah.

[00:17:56] As much as I don't like Tareese

[00:17:58] and I still contend that he's a rapper

[00:18:00] or a hip hop artist of some kind

[00:18:01] I'm sure he's released some music somewhere.

[00:18:03] I don't think so.

[00:18:04] I think he did.

[00:18:05] He actually put in a solid performance here.

[00:18:08] Well for the first half of the film anyway.

[00:18:10] What?

[00:18:11] What are you talking about?

[00:18:11] On the other hand there's the Heist film.

[00:18:14] Oh but you love Heist films.

[00:18:16] I do enjoy them sometimes.

[00:18:18] Radiota and his sons.

[00:18:20] Why not what he did sing?

[00:18:22] See told you I knew it.

[00:18:24] Murray's no dummy.

[00:18:24] You keep telling me that he didn't.

[00:18:26] I know he did.

[00:18:26] Murray knows stuff.

[00:18:27] Anyway Radiota and his sons one of whom is played by

[00:18:31] Baby Eastwood Scott

[00:18:34] try to steal ten million dollars in platinum

[00:18:37] from a catalytic converter factory or something.

[00:18:40] Mm-hmm.

[00:18:41] Of course when the riots happen

[00:18:44] they find a perfect cover for their crime.

[00:18:46] I really enjoyed the late Radiota

[00:18:48] in his last film apparently

[00:18:49] I've heard that before

[00:18:52] being a cruel heartless badass one last time

[00:18:57] nobody plays scary dudes like Ray.

[00:19:00] Except for Joe Pesci.

[00:19:02] He's more funny.

[00:19:04] He's a clown.

[00:19:05] He amuses me.

[00:19:05] Oh good fellows he was pretty scary.

[00:19:08] Say that to his face Murma.

[00:19:09] Yeah that's right.

[00:19:10] I will I'll just have a gun in his hand.

[00:19:12] Or a knife or a spoon or whatever you use.

[00:19:15] The problem I had was when these two stories came together.

[00:19:19] What?

[00:19:20] Of course Tyrese is the only one to stop this evil gang

[00:19:24] then it became another die-hard ripoff

[00:19:27] and Tyrese is no John McLean.

[00:19:30] He's twice as good.

[00:19:31] The action-packed action was fun but ridiculous

[00:19:36] much like those Fast and Furious movies

[00:19:38] he's fond of doing.

[00:19:40] Sorry it's just a man.

[00:19:43] Tyrese is good but he's just a man.

[00:19:45] Alright.

[00:19:46] That's because of Ray because I love Ray.

[00:19:49] More Ray than anything else.

[00:19:51] More Ray than anything else.

[00:19:52] I actually had no problem with when it got to the heist part

[00:19:54] and I like that they had the

[00:19:57] there was kind of the dynamic between the father and the son

[00:20:00] with Tyrese's character and the father and son with Scott Eastwood

[00:20:04] and I'd like to say

[00:20:05] I hate Scott Eastwood

[00:20:07] but this is the first time I've ever watched him in a movie

[00:20:10] where I'm like

[00:20:10] I don't hate him so much.

[00:20:11] Maybe he's not that bad.

[00:20:12] Yeah.

[00:20:13] He's just had some role because he was actually pretty good in this.

[00:20:16] Surprisingly everyone in this was good.

[00:20:18] Everybody this was very well acted top to bottom

[00:20:20] but Tyrese Gibson was amazing in this.

[00:20:24] The way that he carried himself

[00:20:25] like when you could just see him

[00:20:27] he's trying not to draw attention to himself

[00:20:31] the way he's always hunched over

[00:20:33] the way he walked the way he

[00:20:35] the way he just never looked anybody in the eye

[00:20:38] he's just trying to do his own thing.

[00:20:40] Yeah.

[00:20:41] He's trying to make a better life for his son

[00:20:43] and he's just trying not to get into any trouble whatsoever

[00:20:46] but when the time comes

[00:20:47] and someone needs some help

[00:20:50] he's there for him.

[00:20:51] He's the man.

[00:20:52] So it's it's

[00:20:54] it's such a eye-opening

[00:20:58] role because I did not know Tyrese had it in him.

[00:21:01] Yeah.

[00:21:02] Because he didn't have to say anything.

[00:21:04] Just his presence on the screen

[00:21:06] the way that he carried himself

[00:21:07] was like told the story without him saying anything.

[00:21:11] This was such a good movie

[00:21:16] and I almost wish it was two separate movies

[00:21:19] because I kind of want to know more about

[00:21:22] his character and his son

[00:21:24] and follow that a little more.

[00:21:27] The way that it meshed was okay.

[00:21:29] I didn't hate it.

[00:21:30] I just thought that maybe there was a better movie

[00:21:33] if that if this if it wasn't a heist film.

[00:21:36] Yeah, you know, I think the tough thing is

[00:21:38] is that it happens on the Rodney King event.

[00:21:42] So I mean it's good in the sense that

[00:21:44] it ties it to a cover.

[00:21:45] It's a good concept but I'm not sure that

[00:21:47] well to me if it finished in the factory

[00:21:50] and that boom cut the black that's it

[00:21:53] movies over like it

[00:21:54] it was all there fine but then the final

[00:21:57] like chase through like the empty streets

[00:22:00] and the yeah that part was pretty redone.

[00:22:03] It was stupid but anyway

[00:22:05] it's still okay and normally that's

[00:22:07] Bryson either saying that yeah, you know what

[00:22:09] for some reason I didn't mind like I hate

[00:22:11] chases but I was like whatever at that point

[00:22:14] but like I agree with Marie I think

[00:22:16] that they should have ended it there.

[00:22:17] I think they should have ended it in that final show

[00:22:20] down in the factory and they didn't

[00:22:23] need a stupid chasing probably didn't

[00:22:26] but at the end of the day just like everybody else here

[00:22:29] I mean it was it was definitely Matt.

[00:22:31] I just can't say enough about Tyrese Gibson

[00:22:33] though I'm I'm actually looking forward to him

[00:22:36] getting more roles where he can actually do

[00:22:39] some acting because you know you're in it's

[00:22:42] yeah his next thing is fast X part two

[00:22:44] okay what other than fast X part two

[00:22:47] remember it was a cliffhanger right so that

[00:22:49] was only the first that's what they should if

[00:22:51] they call it fast X part two that's going

[00:22:53] to be that's gonna make it a man right there

[00:22:55] because that's a great way.

[00:22:56] It was the last time I know it was the first man

[00:23:00] ever for the fast series because the end of

[00:23:02] the last I am looking forward to more fast

[00:23:04] movies yeah the end of the last one you all

[00:23:06] supposedly died but then they're making a second one

[00:23:08] so obviously they didn't die so I don't know

[00:23:10] because you're a complete idiot that's why

[00:23:12] by the way yeah I'm sure Tyrese will be back

[00:23:14] with that one too so just so you know

[00:23:16] we're gonna see a hell of a lot more of

[00:23:18] Tyrese Gibson he's got one two three four

[00:23:21] five six seven eight nine ten I'm hoping

[00:23:25] this is the first in a trend of roles that are

[00:23:27] actually good yeah that's the only thing

[00:23:29] holding him back right now as he's chosen

[00:23:32] some terrible well that's part of the problem

[00:23:35] yeah he's making money but yeah that's

[00:23:36] the whole thing is money

[00:23:39] Tyrese?

[00:23:42] Tyrese Darnall Gibson is an American R&B

[00:23:45] singer and actor from Los Angeles

[00:23:47] California he signed with RCA records

[00:23:50] in 1998 and released his debut single

[00:23:53] Nobody Else in August of that year

[00:23:56] there you go see the Mer don't question

[00:23:58] the Mer I don't remember him

[00:24:00] I didn't even do the research I just remembered him

[00:24:02] as a singer before he was ever an actor

[00:24:04] you know what so apparently they

[00:24:06] don't say rapper they say R&B

[00:24:08] singer I don't know I was close

[00:24:09] you know what I'm gonna go get his album

[00:24:12] right after we get off this podcast

[00:24:14] Pods Poods Poods

[00:24:16] apparently he's had quite a few albums

[00:24:18] he's had 2000 wants he's had I want to

[00:24:20] go there alter ego open invitation

[00:24:22] black rose

[00:24:25] Tyrese was his first album

[00:24:28] self titled holy crap

[00:24:30] then he's got some EPs too

[00:24:33] there's just not enough Tyrese to go around

[00:24:35] right now in this room

[00:24:36] and he's looking

[00:24:39] he's looking very

[00:24:40] he's looking very stoic on the

[00:24:43] on the cover of every one of those

[00:24:45] of course he is

[00:24:47] and see him smile too much

[00:24:48] anyway yeah he was okay

[00:24:51] he's like we were in a four dollar

[00:24:53] or something I didn't think I liked this film that much

[00:24:55] but yeah but it was okay how did you

[00:24:57] not love his performance though

[00:24:59] he was so good

[00:25:00] I guess at the first like two thirds of the movie

[00:25:02] with his stuff with him and his son

[00:25:05] was really good but just forget about everything else

[00:25:07] and then the action stuff started

[00:25:09] and I'm like I'm sorry there's like ten of them with guns

[00:25:11] and he has a but they're all stupid people

[00:25:13] so I don't know I didn't think it was

[00:25:16] so unreasonable

[00:25:17] the way that all that went down

[00:25:19] action movie at the end so

[00:25:20] what you guys hate anyway

[00:25:22] it's true

[00:25:23] I mean I enjoy that but

[00:25:27] alright well Tyrese just keep giving it to his baby

[00:25:30] and he is a triple threat

[00:25:31] because he's also a producer

[00:25:33] yes there we go

[00:25:35] next up we have

[00:25:38] Reagan everybody's a producer Jim

[00:25:40] Reagan or as I like to call it

[00:25:42] the Ron and Nancy story

[00:25:45] is that what you want to call it

[00:25:46] that's all it was

[00:25:47] what did you expect

[00:25:50] oh okay well

[00:25:51] I thought I'd send her more on his actual term as a president

[00:25:54] but they kind of glossed over a lot of that

[00:25:56] well they glossed over the bad stuff

[00:25:58] that's for sure

[00:25:59] it covers a life for Ronald Reagan

[00:26:01] the 40th president of the United States

[00:26:04] as we were watching this

[00:26:06] it occurred to us that it was either

[00:26:08] a two hour political ad for the Republican Party

[00:26:11] or a religious conversion film

[00:26:14] you can see it in Judge for Yourself

[00:26:18] one thing is clear

[00:26:19] the filmmakers sure

[00:26:21] loved the gipper

[00:26:22] I kept waiting for the halo

[00:26:25] and angel wings to show up

[00:26:27] because according to them

[00:26:28] Ronald Reagan was a complete saint

[00:26:31] those of us who lived through the

[00:26:33] 80s would disagree

[00:26:35] while I would admit he did some good things

[00:26:37] he was way too obsessed

[00:26:39] with communism and mother-right

[00:26:41] Russia

[00:26:44] I did find it fascinating

[00:26:46] that he was the president

[00:26:47] of the screen actors guild

[00:26:49] and helped to create a better working environment

[00:26:51] for working actors

[00:26:52] even if his own career sucked

[00:26:55] this film glosses over

[00:26:56] any negative events in

[00:26:59] Reagan's life including when he was almost

[00:27:01] killed in an assassination attempt

[00:27:03] surviving this

[00:27:05] apparently gave him supernatural

[00:27:07] power

[00:27:07] I don't even know why they

[00:27:08] had according to the story

[00:27:10] Ronald Reagan was solely responsible

[00:27:13] for the downfall of the Soviet Union

[00:27:15] and communism

[00:27:15] it was just him one guy

[00:27:18] and apparently the iran contra situation

[00:27:21] was no big deal

[00:27:23] not to say it wasn't entertaining

[00:27:26] if you try to believe

[00:27:28] it's amazing how they just literally

[00:27:29] touched upon that for like

[00:27:31] if you blinked you missed it

[00:27:33] there's all of a sudden Ali Norse on there

[00:27:35] for a half a second and then

[00:27:38] let's move on to something else

[00:27:39] there's nothing to see here

[00:27:41] but they just put it in so they can say

[00:27:43] oh we're fair and balanced

[00:27:44] like Fox News

[00:27:46] if you truly believe Reagan was a great man

[00:27:49] then you can enjoy this nostalgic fluff piece

[00:27:52] what I don't get is

[00:27:53] why the story is told from the point of

[00:27:55] view of a former Russian spy

[00:27:58] played by John Voight

[00:28:00] in a really bad Russian accent

[00:28:02] much as

[00:28:03] really good makeup to make a lucky hundred

[00:28:05] much as I loved the 80s this was a rage

[00:28:07] okay

[00:28:09] well

[00:28:10] you want me to go? I don't care

[00:28:12] I gotta get this out I'm sorry

[00:28:14] so Murray stole a lot of my thunder which is perfectly okay

[00:28:17] because I think this is gonna be unanimous

[00:28:19] I wasn't sure exactly what this was

[00:28:21] was it a made for TV movie

[00:28:24] Republican campaign

[00:28:25] dressed up as a conversion film

[00:28:26] or a made for TV Christian conversion

[00:28:29] film dressed up as a Republican campaign

[00:28:31] what I do know

[00:28:32] is that having a superpower

[00:28:35] evil spy badly presented

[00:28:37] by a terrible Russian accent to John

[00:28:39] Voight did not make this

[00:28:41] any better

[00:28:42] I'm actually not sure what it was

[00:28:45] was it the terrible

[00:28:47] one on one conversations with

[00:28:49] Reagan and Nancy or

[00:28:51] the token Reagan

[00:28:53] helping black athletes

[00:28:54] scene I'm thinking

[00:29:00] like just

[00:29:01] to prove that the Republicans

[00:29:03] are not racist

[00:29:05] in any way shape or form like that

[00:29:07] that scene alone just made me infuriated

[00:29:09] because it's like you know what we should just put that

[00:29:11] in there because you know where Reagan wasn't a racist

[00:29:14] or was it the

[00:29:15] terrible music and score

[00:29:17] cause originally I thought they had

[00:29:19] no music budget cause

[00:29:21] traveling through three decades

[00:29:23] and of thousands of options

[00:29:25] of music they could have played in this other than

[00:29:27] the canned crap that they had

[00:29:29] but apparently once we get to the

[00:29:31] 80s apparently they had

[00:29:33] budget to pay for Phil Collins

[00:29:34] and a confusion it's an awesome view

[00:29:36] yeah suffice to say this movie is horrible

[00:29:39] I don't want to give it any more airtime

[00:29:41] except to say

[00:29:43] the simple word that would explain

[00:29:45] this movie to anybody who's actually seen it

[00:29:47] is absolute rage oh wait no I do have

[00:29:49] one more thing to say

[00:29:51] Murray I am so sorry

[00:29:52] that I asked you and paid for your ticket

[00:29:55] to go see this movie

[00:29:56] I'm glad you paid for the tickets

[00:29:57] I did mention I didn't want to see it

[00:30:00] you did say you didn't want to see it

[00:30:01] but I didn't want you to suffer alone

[00:30:03] well this is what BFFs do

[00:30:05] and you came to my neighborhood so

[00:30:07] okay so the first warning sign

[00:30:10] is it's made by MJM

[00:30:12] entertainment group

[00:30:13] and they specialize in

[00:30:15] conversion themes, conversion films

[00:30:18] things like that

[00:30:20] um and yeah

[00:30:22] and it's just

[00:30:23] uh

[00:30:24] anytime you see MJM

[00:30:26] entertainment group just run in the other direction

[00:30:29] do not watch it

[00:30:31] there it's pure propaganda

[00:30:34] and so is this

[00:30:36] I've never seen a movie

[00:30:37] that wants

[00:30:39] that wants to show

[00:30:41] so badly that yeah we're

[00:30:43] we're totally balanced because

[00:30:45] we're gonna show you the bad stuff

[00:30:46] and the good stuff but they literally spend

[00:30:49] so little time on the bad stuff

[00:30:51] like it's like

[00:30:53] one little line and then they move on

[00:30:56] to something else so that you don't even know

[00:30:58] really what it was

[00:30:59] they just kind of bring up

[00:31:02] the

[00:31:03] concept of it really quickly and move on

[00:31:06] and you're like what

[00:31:07] like but you know if you grew up

[00:31:09] in the 80s you absolutely know

[00:31:11] what they were talking about and they did

[00:31:13] touch upon these things why would they even

[00:31:15] do that though if they're gonna have this

[00:31:17] total puff piece on Reagan

[00:31:19] why would they even do that

[00:31:21] this is this was just

[00:31:23] aggravating from start to finish

[00:31:25] I hated

[00:31:26] every single second of it

[00:31:28] I don't like total puff pieces

[00:31:31] I don't understand

[00:31:33] why anybody would make something

[00:31:35] like this I guess

[00:31:37] it's because you know

[00:31:39] because the elections coming up I guess

[00:31:41] oh yeah this is this is all

[00:31:43] this is all politically charged

[00:31:44] but it's just garbage and

[00:31:47] why why would anybody

[00:31:49] agree to be in this garbage

[00:31:51] like MGM Entertainment

[00:31:53] why would Dennis Quaid go

[00:31:55] like what

[00:31:57] I don't understand

[00:31:59] yeah obviously paid him but I think Murray

[00:32:01] did a bit of research did you see that

[00:32:03] yeah well I had

[00:32:05] history channels they were on free preview

[00:32:07] for like the last month or so

[00:32:09] right and they have stuff I've been watching

[00:32:10] they have a series of Morgan Freeman talking about great escapes

[00:32:13] like stuff like that I watched but

[00:32:14] one of the things I saw was something about

[00:32:16] the holy holy

[00:32:18] wars holy this holy that

[00:32:20] hosted by Dennis Quaid

[00:32:21] so yeah basically he's now hosting

[00:32:24] religious

[00:32:25] okay well I guess that makes a lot more sense

[00:32:28] maybe he and I'm pretty sure he's a Republican

[00:32:30] and you know John Void

[00:32:32] as the KGB agent was

[00:32:34] that's enough to rage right there

[00:32:36] and that and choosing

[00:32:38] that is the the

[00:32:40] narration and I mean

[00:32:42] it's obviously completely fabricated

[00:32:45] there's no way that this guy was following

[00:32:47] Reagan from when he was an actor

[00:32:48] all the way through his political career

[00:32:50] and that he had such admiration

[00:32:53] for him like this is all

[00:32:55] just absolute fiction

[00:32:57] why did they care anyway like they

[00:32:58] they said present day but it couldn't have been

[00:33:00] 2024 maybe it was

[00:33:02] the 90s but anyway our 2000s

[00:33:05] but they're yeah the guy

[00:33:06] his old his one question was

[00:33:08] why did the Soviet Union fall

[00:33:10] and that became a two hour movie

[00:33:12] Ronald Reagan okay

[00:33:14] then 100% blame one

[00:33:16] guys and he said well

[00:33:17] was it also tried to kill him like no

[00:33:19] like well yeah

[00:33:22] maybe they should have tried yeah this movie

[00:33:24] was so completely horrible

[00:33:27] like

[00:33:28] this okay kid can we

[00:33:30] just back the bus up just one

[00:33:32] second is this

[00:33:34] now the worst movie you've ever seen

[00:33:36] can we please get over

[00:33:39] no

[00:33:39] Kevin Spacey's

[00:33:41] life of David Gale's

[00:33:43] just so we get that out of the way

[00:33:46] yeah because this people

[00:33:48] who are listening that is in Bryce's

[00:33:50] opinion the worst movie that's ever been made

[00:33:52] and he has actually seen this movie

[00:33:54] Reagan so I'm like

[00:33:55] okay dude if that's

[00:33:58] Reagan's awful if that's the hill you want to

[00:34:00] die on the life of David

[00:34:01] Gale is the worst movie

[00:34:04] Reagan's definitely making the list of

[00:34:06] worst movies of the year this year there's no

[00:34:08] question but not a

[00:34:10] will be a you know it'll make

[00:34:12] it would be high up on the worst of

[00:34:14] all time but there's only one number one

[00:34:16] okay yeah that's still the hill

[00:34:18] you're gonna die on okay it's

[00:34:20] it's the worst yeah okay

[00:34:21] alright just so you know

[00:34:24] okay

[00:34:25] I think you made me watch it again

[00:34:27] to do I did yeah it was still the worst

[00:34:30] movie I'd ever seen

[00:34:31] okay well I think

[00:34:33] it tries to be clever and it's not

[00:34:36] I think you should watch it again with me

[00:34:37] yeah why you like it

[00:34:39] oh there you go

[00:34:40] you might not hate it yeah you'll like it

[00:34:43] because it's not the worst movie ever made

[00:34:44] it is the worst movie ever made but

[00:34:47] I still think Murray's gonna like it

[00:34:50] I think Reagan I think

[00:34:51] my dear back yeah there you go

[00:34:53] anyways alright okay so

[00:34:55] our last movie that we saw in cinema

[00:34:57] yeah it's called

[00:34:59] Across the River and Into the Trees

[00:35:02] to Grandmother's House we go

[00:35:04] no the grandmother's house we go

[00:35:06] was not that's not right

[00:35:08] no it's just across the river

[00:35:10] and through the wood

[00:35:11] no into the trees no woods

[00:35:14] it's just trees alright

[00:35:15] so love story

[00:35:18] built on two people with

[00:35:20] mutual interests and a passion

[00:35:22] for life and each other

[00:35:24] with terrific writing

[00:35:26] which draws you into this love

[00:35:28] affair can be so

[00:35:30] romantic

[00:35:32] oh but that's not

[00:35:34] what this was no in fact

[00:35:37] through the

[00:35:38] whole beginning of this film I was annoyed

[00:35:40] by the whole concept of

[00:35:42] the introduction of said

[00:35:43] love interest and I'm putting that in heavy quotes

[00:35:46] where most of the

[00:35:47] transition scenes were

[00:35:50] unbelievable like a

[00:35:52] Victrola just sitting there in an open

[00:35:54] market with a record on

[00:35:56] it or ordering drinks delivered

[00:35:58] at one minute before the bar closes

[00:36:00] and everybody leaves

[00:36:02] and some young lady

[00:36:04] in her early 20s fawning over

[00:36:06] an unlikable character in

[00:36:08] Leaves driver's character

[00:36:09] the whole love interest was

[00:36:11] taking me completely out of

[00:36:14] this story now let's

[00:36:16] back up a bit to the beginning

[00:36:18] back up we meet Leaves

[00:36:20] character

[00:36:22] who's a colonel in the

[00:36:24] US Army and

[00:36:26] he's in

[00:36:29] super hot

[00:36:30] and I mean super hot

[00:36:32] and cut shape but

[00:36:33] supposedly has heart disease and is dying

[00:36:36] so you instantly

[00:36:37] get the opinion based on

[00:36:40] how and what

[00:36:41] he's saying that he does not

[00:36:44] intend on coming back after his

[00:36:46] hiatus to Venice

[00:36:47] he's joined by a sergeant

[00:36:49] sent by his doctor

[00:36:51] to basically make sure he lives

[00:36:53] the tension is high

[00:36:55] between those two

[00:36:57] but so often soon

[00:37:00] as the story progresses

[00:37:01] instantly

[00:37:03] when we get to Venice

[00:37:05] he finds this young lady

[00:37:08] who drives him

[00:37:09] to Venice on her gondola

[00:37:11] and the romance side of the story

[00:37:13] starts to unfold albeit

[00:37:15] not really but it

[00:37:17] really comes across that our young lady

[00:37:19] who has daddy issues

[00:37:21] and marriage issues

[00:37:23] is smitten or conveniently

[00:37:25] becomes smitten with the colonel

[00:37:27] which

[00:37:29] unlike the disparity in

[00:37:31] age we discussed last week

[00:37:33] with between the temples

[00:37:35] which seemed natural this comes off

[00:37:37] with a much creepier vibe

[00:37:39] but

[00:37:41] mostly coming from the young lady

[00:37:43] which is a little surprising

[00:37:45] and I mean if you're

[00:37:47] planning on offing yourself

[00:37:49] why not spend your last weekend

[00:37:51] with a hot lady

[00:37:53] I mean right

[00:37:55] sounds like a

[00:37:57] good plan right?

[00:37:59] and it is said that this is

[00:38:01] Hemingway's worst book

[00:38:03] and as I was halfway through this

[00:38:05] I was thinking it's also

[00:38:07] the worst adaptation of his work on film

[00:38:10] but as the story continues

[00:38:12] we get to understand

[00:38:14] there is a lot of butts

[00:38:16] there was so much butts

[00:38:18] so yeah

[00:38:21] as it continues

[00:38:22] and I start to understand

[00:38:24] the deeper story and why

[00:38:26] the colonel is going to Venice

[00:38:27] that there was not

[00:38:30] real romance

[00:38:32] from his perspective

[00:38:33] and probably also not from hers

[00:38:36] the ending was perfect

[00:38:37] for the story that they spun

[00:38:39] and in a strange twist of fate

[00:38:41] or perhaps a strange twist

[00:38:43] in writing the last quarter

[00:38:46] of this film

[00:38:48] saved it from me from a raging romance

[00:38:50] saga

[00:38:50] leave was great

[00:38:53] the shooting in the romantic city

[00:38:56] of Venice was picturesque and beautifully

[00:38:58] shot and the music was very

[00:39:00] well placed throughout the film

[00:39:01] thank goodness for strong finishes

[00:39:03] which doesn't happen very often

[00:39:05] the saved it from being a rage

[00:39:07] this was a math for me

[00:39:08] the last quarter of this film I was

[00:39:11] fully enjoying

[00:39:12] fully enjoying

[00:39:13] Lyft Shriver was very very good in this role

[00:39:16] this might be one of the best

[00:39:18] things I've ever seen him do

[00:39:20] as far as the role goes in his performance

[00:39:22] yeah for sure

[00:39:24] he was really really good

[00:39:26] I actually didn't have a problem with

[00:39:28] the romance because

[00:39:30] I never looked at it the way you looked at it

[00:39:32] from the beginning like as soon as

[00:39:34] it was introduced it sounds like you were starting to roll your eyes

[00:39:36] I was totally rolling my eyes

[00:39:38] I understand that but I wasn't

[00:39:39] mostly from her perspective

[00:39:41] I had a little bit of faith in Hemingway

[00:39:43] having said that apparently

[00:39:45] in the book they actually do have sex

[00:39:48] nice

[00:39:49] sorry no I mean the opposite of nice

[00:39:52] I haven't read the book so I don't

[00:39:53] know that's a fact but this is what

[00:39:55] I've heard through the grapevine

[00:39:57] at any rate I have

[00:39:59] the problem I had with this

[00:40:01] is I realize why they did

[00:40:03] the 4-3 aspect ratio at least I think

[00:40:05] I realize I don't know that I do realize

[00:40:07] it's because it's because

[00:40:09] no it's because

[00:40:11] you know he's at the end of his life

[00:40:13] he feels things are closing in on him

[00:40:15] so I

[00:40:16] he feels almost claustrophobic and

[00:40:19] I get that

[00:40:20] but if you're shooting Venice

[00:40:23] just open the bloody

[00:40:25] screen out you're shooting one of the most beautiful

[00:40:27] cities in the world

[00:40:29] let me see the

[00:40:31] gosh darn city

[00:40:32] why are you cutting off the edges

[00:40:35] it was so beautifully

[00:40:36] shot how nice would that

[00:40:38] have been to watch this in glory

[00:40:40] in glory and I'm about to be

[00:40:42] awesome so instead of

[00:40:44] cause whatever you are going for

[00:40:48] it didn't matter

[00:40:49] it did it wasn't

[00:40:51] effective it just had me

[00:40:53] a little bit frustrated that

[00:40:55] you're cutting off the edges of what I

[00:40:56] of this picturesque

[00:41:00] wonderful city

[00:41:01] like to look at it

[00:41:03] is so beautiful and I'm sitting here

[00:41:05] looking at a third of what I should be

[00:41:07] looking at so that annoyed me

[00:41:10] but

[00:41:11] everything else did not

[00:41:12] I was very very

[00:41:14] involved in this movie

[00:41:16] I love Liv Schreiber in this movie

[00:41:19] he's never been better

[00:41:21] yep the story

[00:41:23] was you know it

[00:41:24] and yeah it has been said that this is Hemingway's

[00:41:27] worst novel but it just shows you

[00:41:29] what a good writer Hemingway was

[00:41:30] is what it does

[00:41:31] oh sorry keep going

[00:41:33] and at the end of the day I mean

[00:41:35] I don't have to

[00:41:37] fawn over Schreiber's performance too much

[00:41:40] but everybody in this was very good

[00:41:42] yep

[00:41:44] her fawning over

[00:41:46] him made sense

[00:41:48] because of the situation

[00:41:50] that she was in as well

[00:41:53] did it

[00:41:54] it did

[00:41:55] because it didn't have to be

[00:41:58] it didn't have to be him

[00:41:59] I know all that

[00:42:01] it was too overtly

[00:42:05] like I want to bang you

[00:42:07] and it should have been

[00:42:08] I get that from her

[00:42:09] and I get the way that he reacted too

[00:42:12] well in his case

[00:42:13] he was being respectful

[00:42:15] and he was just enjoying her company

[00:42:17] but to me that whole scene about how she was

[00:42:21] infatuated with him

[00:42:22] because she had all kinds of other people

[00:42:24] I'd buy it

[00:42:25] I didn't buy it

[00:42:26] I didn't buy the way they were delivering it

[00:42:28] to me it was the delivery of her character

[00:42:31] not that she didn't act

[00:42:33] well in that character

[00:42:34] but I didn't like how it was delivered

[00:42:37] I think they could have done that

[00:42:39] in a more

[00:42:41] platonic way

[00:42:42] that would have seen more natural

[00:42:43] she was eyeballing his penis half the movie

[00:42:46] and I'm like no this is not

[00:42:48] and why not

[00:42:49] they showed how hot he was

[00:42:52] because I was eyeballing his penis too

[00:42:54] he was pretty hot

[00:42:56] I'm not gonna lie

[00:42:57] leave strawberry if I'm gonna be gay

[00:43:00] maybe it'll be with you

[00:43:01] because he was pretty hot

[00:43:03] I'm not gonna lie

[00:43:04] anyways we get to the same conclusion

[00:43:06] it was meh

[00:43:08] maybe it was a higher meh for me than you

[00:43:10] because at no point did I think

[00:43:11] that I could possibly give this a rage

[00:43:14] from the opening sequence on

[00:43:15] I was sucked in

[00:43:17] I wanted to know more about this character

[00:43:19] and as it went on

[00:43:21] we learned more about this character

[00:43:22] and things did develop

[00:43:24] and I liked it ended perfectly

[00:43:27] didn't it?

[00:43:28] if it had ended something different

[00:43:31] it could have changed for me

[00:43:32] I suppose you know

[00:43:33] we could be having a different conversation

[00:43:37] for sure

[00:43:38] but it really was a perfect ending

[00:43:41] I enjoyed it a lot

[00:43:43] but yeah it was meh

[00:43:46] I enjoyed it a lot

[00:43:47] I just sat there

[00:43:49] and I just enjoyed looking at the movie

[00:43:52] too it was just beautiful to look at

[00:43:54] this was a really really

[00:43:55] lovely movie to watch

[00:43:57] yeah it was a very beautiful watch

[00:43:59] in 4-3

[00:44:02] 4-3

[00:44:03] WHY

[00:44:06] you know what that means meh

[00:44:07] I don't know what does it mean

[00:44:09] you know hit some buttons

[00:44:12] that's what it meant

[00:44:13] I'm gonna rewind a bit too

[00:44:16] REEG

[00:44:17] cause he didn't give a

[00:44:18] cause he didn't give me a chance to do it last time

[00:44:21] and it's

[00:44:22] oh that was for Regal

[00:44:25] Ronald Regan

[00:44:26] yeah we're so excited to talk about

[00:44:30] Hemingway

[00:44:31] to get off the poop

[00:44:32] tear down that wall

[00:44:34] tear down

[00:44:35] and

[00:44:40] disassemble your country

[00:44:41] sure we'll do that

[00:44:43] alright Ronnie since you said it

[00:44:46] let's just put an end to communism

[00:44:48] Murray is winding me up

[00:44:49] for my next segment

[00:44:51] hey that's not

[00:44:54] this has nothing to do with you

[00:44:56] there Jim

[00:44:57] maybe he said earlier in the podcast

[00:45:00] there's something

[00:45:01] that's gonna give us more deets

[00:45:03] Raymond Allen Leoda

[00:45:06] okay

[00:45:06] Ray Ray was born on December 18th

[00:45:09] 1954

[00:45:11] and Newark, New Jersey

[00:45:13] was adopted

[00:45:14] he died in Santo Domingo

[00:45:17] Dominican Republic on May 26th

[00:45:20] 2022 from heart failure

[00:45:21] not a bad place to die

[00:45:22] in between he had an amazing film career

[00:45:25] and played many iconic roles

[00:45:27] that's true

[00:45:28] he remains one of my favorite all time actors

[00:45:31] now

[00:45:32] yeah he died in 2022

[00:45:35] I have so far seen

[00:45:37] two films that came out

[00:45:39] after he passed away

[00:45:41] that's right

[00:45:42] and all there have been four films

[00:45:45] that were released in the past two years

[00:45:47] four

[00:45:48] according to the dates

[00:45:50] Leoda passed away four weeks after

[00:45:53] the film 1992 was completed

[00:45:56] oh okay so it was his last film

[00:45:58] yeah unless he didn't want to

[00:46:00] wait there's more

[00:46:01] what

[00:46:01] it's on a shelf for two and a half years

[00:46:04] Ray was also in

[00:46:06] cocaine bear

[00:46:07] fools paradise and dangerous waters

[00:46:11] unfortunately these final projects

[00:46:12] in his career were not exactly very good films

[00:46:15] no

[00:46:16] maybe at the end he was just taking projects to keep working

[00:46:19] I'm quite

[00:46:20] 1992 came out last

[00:46:21] I will admit, actually it was

[00:46:23] who actually came out yet or maybe just tricked the video

[00:46:26] but everything else has come out

[00:46:28] I enjoyed his sinister and heartless character in 1992

[00:46:32] the other one's not so much

[00:46:33] now

[00:46:35] according to the chronology

[00:46:37] the

[00:46:39] fools paradise

[00:46:41] was completed in 2018

[00:46:44] cocaine bear

[00:46:45] Ray the Oda died a week after

[00:46:48] he went in to do his

[00:46:50] dialogue replacement

[00:46:51] oh so it's touch ups

[00:46:53] touch ups so the movie was completed but he had to come back

[00:46:56] and do voice overs

[00:46:57] and he died a week after that

[00:46:59] and dangerous waters

[00:47:02] which was in Dominican Republic

[00:47:03] was where he was being filmed

[00:47:05] he died in the middle of filming

[00:47:07] the movie

[00:47:08] much like John Candy with that wagons east thing

[00:47:11] he was in the Dominican Republic to shoot the movie

[00:47:14] and he just died of heart failure

[00:47:15] so did they CGI him in for the last part

[00:47:17] I don't know if it ever came out

[00:47:18] wow not telling me

[00:47:20] dangerous waters that's the last thing on the IMDb

[00:47:24] 2023 it says

[00:47:26] he was the captain

[00:47:28] I have not seen that

[00:47:30] that's Charlie Day

[00:47:32] yes directed by

[00:47:33] and he's in it

[00:47:36] so was dangerous waters

[00:47:38] yeah that's the last thing on here

[00:47:39] he was the captain

[00:47:41] anyway yeah he was

[00:47:42] I don't know if he even finished his

[00:47:46] work

[00:47:47] I guess we'll have to see him

[00:47:49] I don't know that's a mountain

[00:47:51] anyway

[00:47:53] good fellas

[00:47:55] unlawful entry

[00:47:56] nobody played scary dudes

[00:47:58] better than they were

[00:48:00] even in his bad films

[00:48:02] he was always the best thing about them

[00:48:04] I really wish they would stop releasing

[00:48:07] crappy movies after the man had already died

[00:48:09] let him rest in peace Hollywood

[00:48:11] oh but finish their movie

[00:48:14] I didn't have to release it

[00:48:15] yeah you don't

[00:48:16] it's like ah Ray died

[00:48:18] this isn't up to snuff

[00:48:20] let's just dump it

[00:48:21] our main star died let's just not finish it

[00:48:24] yeah but the two movies that we saw

[00:48:26] I think both of them were man

[00:48:28] you gave Grizzly bear a man

[00:48:30] I love the main bear I thought it was a Mondo

[00:48:32] Grizzly bear

[00:48:34] go game bear on coke

[00:48:35] fool's paradise was actually okay

[00:48:37] it was kind of funny

[00:48:39] got Adrian Brody in it doesn't it

[00:48:42] don't tell Murray

[00:48:43] that's not a selling feature for me

[00:48:46] it's got Kenji Yong in it

[00:48:48] it's always funny

[00:48:49] Jason Sudakis Jason Bateman

[00:48:52] you loved the Jason

[00:48:53] Jason Bateman is like your favorite

[00:48:55] you're not making the point you think you are

[00:48:59] so far you said one name I actually

[00:49:02] like

[00:49:02] yeah Jason Bateman

[00:49:05] teen wolf 2

[00:49:06] that's right teen wolf 2

[00:49:08] don't get him started

[00:49:25] don't get him started

[00:49:37] I

[00:49:38] I

[00:49:41] I

[00:49:41] I love you

[00:49:46] alright

[00:49:47] it's not going to come as a surprise to anyone

[00:49:50] here but there's two

[00:49:54] two things in this world I can't stand

[00:49:58] people

[00:49:59] and sensitive of other people's culture

[00:50:01] and religious conversion films

[00:50:03] yes

[00:50:05] those are the two things

[00:50:06] those are two valid things to not

[00:50:09] be able to stand right

[00:50:10] but on top of that

[00:50:13] don't dress up a bio

[00:50:15] pic as

[00:50:16] as something that it's

[00:50:19] not like it's a

[00:50:20] it's a political

[00:50:22] like there's so much crap about this

[00:50:24] movie that if people

[00:50:27] like well before we went into it too Murray

[00:50:29] looking at this is like

[00:50:31] tens of tens of tens across the board

[00:50:33] I want to be

[00:50:34] I'm deep in there that's what happens with

[00:50:37] these reviews one was

[00:50:39] like a three and a half out of 10 the other

[00:50:41] all were all ten out of 10s yeah

[00:50:43] like this was a one out of

[00:50:44] zero out of 10 if I could give

[00:50:47] zero it would have got zero this was

[00:50:48] zero yeah

[00:50:51] negative one

[00:50:53] there's only there's only like one or two

[00:50:55] movies in the history of the world that are

[00:50:57] worse than it okay

[00:51:01] and both of them start Kevin

[00:51:03] Spacey one of the life

[00:51:05] of David Gale and nine lives

[00:51:06] oh I haven't seen nine lives so I can

[00:51:09] I have to reserve judgment on that one

[00:51:11] I can't even I have no intention of

[00:51:12] ever seeing it because

[00:51:14] you can't dare because it's already been done

[00:51:16] I know so yeah you know what

[00:51:19] fuck me with

[00:51:20] these Christian conversion films like just

[00:51:23] make a movie that's good

[00:51:25] on that note you know Creed is

[00:51:26] touring this

[00:51:29] Murray's gonna be have come

[00:51:30] in with a Creed cruiser next

[00:51:32] me

[00:51:35] that's all I got

[00:51:36] stop making them

[00:51:38] they won't

[00:51:42] there's one over

[00:52:02] what should my rage be

[00:52:05] this week well last weeks was

[00:52:06] so awful last week was awesome

[00:52:08] thing you come out with is gonna be

[00:52:10] on rage for cineplex that wasn't

[00:52:12] a rage it was an

[00:52:14] it was an update on a previous

[00:52:16] by the way you know what my rage

[00:52:18] is my rage is is that even

[00:52:20] though that was that happened

[00:52:22] it didn't happen immediately I went to go

[00:52:24] buy some tickets

[00:52:26] and I had to use one of my free

[00:52:28] because it doesn't start until September

[00:52:30] 17

[00:52:32] which I didn't read the fine print

[00:52:34] so my rage is fine print

[00:52:36] there you go

[00:52:37] this is like that song that

[00:52:40] September 17

[00:52:41] and then finally it's gonna be the way it's supposed to be

[00:52:44] in the way it always should have been

[00:52:45] remember that show with what's her name

[00:52:48] Shirley and lamb chop

[00:52:50] I don't know what the show is but yeah

[00:52:52] yeah I remember lamb chop is the puppet

[00:52:54] yeah so this is like that

[00:52:55] song they used to sing at the end of it

[00:52:58] this is the rage that doesn't

[00:53:00] and because it goes on

[00:53:02] and on my friend

[00:53:04] someone started raging

[00:53:06] for

[00:53:08] because something something something

[00:53:10] just because it is the rage

[00:53:13] that never ends

[00:53:15] right

[00:53:16] it's gonna come to September and something's gonna go wrong

[00:53:19] exactly

[00:53:20] sherry whatever

[00:53:22] I remember the lamb chop

[00:53:24] yeah lamb chop and the puppet

[00:53:26] sherry louis

[00:53:28] alright and lamb chop

[00:53:29] yes the most of all the chops

[00:53:32] that's right

[00:53:33] best of the chops

[00:53:35] chops are terrible

[00:53:37] lamb

[00:53:39] stop

[00:53:41] how did we get to this in my rage

[00:53:43] stop it

[00:53:45] well there's never

[00:53:47] it will end on September 17

[00:53:49] cause finally they'll do it right

[00:53:51] I don't know if that's coming

[00:53:52] people need an update on what I'm talking about

[00:53:54] no they don't care but you know what

[00:53:57] we're gonna find out

[00:53:59] cause I'm sure you're gonna bring it up again

[00:54:01] no now I'll be done with it

[00:54:03] because now I didn't realize

[00:54:05] at the time that I wasn't gonna be immediate

[00:54:07] and then I went to purchase some tickets

[00:54:09] so then I had to buy

[00:54:11] one free ticket

[00:54:13] one 999 ticket

[00:54:15] and then I had to

[00:54:16] I couldn't buy another 999 ticket

[00:54:19] cause that took up my two tickets there

[00:54:22] and then I had to buy another

[00:54:23] seniors ticket for my mother for 11 bucks

[00:54:26] just use your free ones

[00:54:27] well I could have used another free one

[00:54:29] but I don't want to use them all

[00:54:31] you know what

[00:54:34] I'm changing my rage

[00:54:35] it's Bryce again

[00:54:36] I like to have my free tickets

[00:54:39] for what reason

[00:54:40] so I can use them later

[00:54:42] for what reason

[00:54:43] eventually they'll be used

[00:54:45] as someone with a financial background

[00:54:48] time value of money is important

[00:54:50] and you're spending your hard earned cash

[00:54:52] which could be your ticket ends on

[00:54:54] horse betting or whatever

[00:54:56] eventually ticket prices will go up

[00:54:58] and then I'll look like a genius cause I'll have all these free tickets

[00:55:00] I already have

[00:55:01] I don't think so

[00:55:04] here's the one I'm thinking you're just gonna drop dead

[00:55:06] like Ray Leota and then you're not gonna ever get to use it

[00:55:08] then you'll have 300 free movies in your account

[00:55:10] yeah that's right and then

[00:55:12] you put that in your pipe and smoke it

[00:55:14] just might

[00:55:18] was that your actual rage or did I distract you

[00:55:21] wow that was my rage

[00:55:23] nobody knows what his rage was

[00:55:24] I'll tell you what my rage was gonna be until you got me off

[00:55:27] on that tangent

[00:55:28] I don't know how you even did it but you did it

[00:55:30] I just mentioned not what last week's was about

[00:55:32] the un-rage

[00:55:35] then I remembered

[00:55:37] that I went into buy

[00:55:40] anyways

[00:55:41] you know what

[00:55:42] let's just leave that as my rage

[00:55:44] my other rage was

[00:55:45] if I'm gonna watch a movie about Venice

[00:55:48] show me widescreen

[00:55:49] well that's a good one

[00:55:51] we're going with the first one

[00:55:52] call it a double

[00:55:54] nah it's not a double rage

[00:55:56] now I'm not so upset about it

[00:55:57] I'm more upset about it now it's an aplex

[00:55:59] I gotta wait for like two weeks

[00:56:01] there we go

[00:56:07] rage

[00:56:10] subsiding

[00:56:11] plus

[00:56:12] sloy

[00:56:14] anger feeding

[00:56:17] ooh the lists

[00:56:18] didn't think we were gonna have the list this week

[00:56:20] but you forgot

[00:56:23] that we talked about Carol Kane

[00:56:26] last week

[00:56:28] and I'm like you know what

[00:56:30] I'm gonna go back and watch some Carol Kane movies

[00:56:32] this last week

[00:56:33] which I did

[00:56:35] I watched a when a stranger

[00:56:39] call

[00:56:39] she's so good in that

[00:56:42] she's just a baby in that

[00:56:44] she's such a little baby

[00:56:46] like a little tiny baby

[00:56:49] she's wonderful

[00:56:51] she is so

[00:56:53] honestly that is such

[00:56:54] a good movie the original

[00:56:57] is the remake is just

[00:56:59] poopy

[00:56:59] it's terrible

[00:57:00] you know

[00:57:04] it's important that people know

[00:57:06] if you haven't seen one of stranger calls

[00:57:08] it's probably one of the best

[00:57:10] slasher movies

[00:57:12] and I saw this in cinema's opening night

[00:57:14] by the way when it came out

[00:57:16] so

[00:57:19] she had a bit of a run for her money

[00:57:21] in this film because

[00:57:22] what's his face

[00:57:24] the cop in it is pretty damn

[00:57:26] fantastic also

[00:57:28] what can I remember his name

[00:57:30] I don't know

[00:57:31] remember who his name is

[00:57:33] nope

[00:57:38] how long ago was that

[00:57:40] 79 I want to say

[00:57:41] oh yeah that's way before I was looking

[00:57:44] my favorite

[00:57:45] it was 1979

[00:57:46] my favorite movies are her were in the 80s

[00:57:49] the 80s

[00:57:51] yeah you were gonna talk about that

[00:57:53] um oh Charles

[00:57:55] Charles journey

[00:57:57] he's great in this

[00:57:58] so I saw that one

[00:58:01] and then of course

[00:58:02] I had to go back

[00:58:04] and watch Annie Hall

[00:58:06] which she's also fantastic

[00:58:08] in that

[00:58:09] and then I also

[00:58:11] went back and watched

[00:58:13] Princess Bride

[00:58:15] so where she crushes Billy Crystal

[00:58:17] like it's not even a contest

[00:58:18] it's like Billy Crystal

[00:58:21] yeah she's just crushed everybody

[00:58:23] so um

[00:58:24] you said you were gonna tell me something about Carol Kane

[00:58:27] that I wouldn't be happy about

[00:58:28] and I don't know if that's a truth

[00:58:29] I don't remember that

[00:58:32] no it was last week

[00:58:34] when we started talking about her

[00:58:35] I think I may mention that

[00:58:37] well yeah cause Brace makes funny me again

[00:58:39] because I said yeah some of the movies she's in

[00:58:41] are terrible

[00:58:43] but she's never terrible

[00:58:45] but she's never terrible

[00:58:46] I am saying Carol Kane

[00:58:50] is mesmerizing

[00:58:51] but she's still mesmerizing

[00:58:52] yeah she's absolutely mesmerizing

[00:58:55] what's your vote on Carol Kane

[00:58:57] I haven't seen enough of her stuff

[00:58:58] if you're talking about Carol Kane from the 80s

[00:59:01] absolutely

[00:59:01] she's still the same Carol Kane

[00:59:03] last week I saw her

[00:59:05] was the dead don't die

[00:59:07] and she was also amazing

[00:59:09] and then you have to go back a long

[00:59:11] was she in the dead don't die now that I remember

[00:59:13] oh yeah she was

[00:59:15] what's his face

[00:59:16] there's gotta be some sort of mesmerized off in there

[00:59:19] no there isn't because Tilda Swinton was already punted

[00:59:21] Tilda Swinton's punted, Bill Murray's been punted

[00:59:24] oh wait

[00:59:25] there is because isn't Adam Driver

[00:59:27] Adam Driver is still on the list

[00:59:29] there we go so we might have to rewatch it

[00:59:32] for a third time

[00:59:33] man

[00:59:35] it's not my favorite movie

[00:59:37] I actually enjoyed it more the second time

[00:59:40] yeah so maybe the third time

[00:59:41] it'll become a Mondo for you

[00:59:42] maybe

[00:59:44] I liked her in Sprooge

[00:59:46] she was the best part of everything

[00:59:50] she's in

[00:59:51] bitch hit me with a toaster

[00:59:52] love a girl with spirit

[00:59:53] she was the best part of Adam's family

[00:59:56] bought values for God's sake

[00:59:58] the good thing is that Murray's going to be able

[01:00:01] to find us some mesmerized off

[01:00:02] with her now

[01:00:04] adding her until there's a pose

[01:00:06] this is the weekend to do it I guess

[01:00:08] I don't have time after that

[01:00:09] alright so it's unanimous Carol Cain

[01:00:12] is mesmerizing until we start

[01:00:14] doing some mesmerized off

[01:00:16] oh yeah she was in the sisters brothers too

[01:00:18] I just watched that again recently

[01:00:20] and that's got Joaquin Phoenix

[01:00:22] yeah I are one of those two

[01:00:24] but is she in it for five minutes

[01:00:26] so that's the tough part

[01:00:27] yeah she's not in there for five minutes

[01:00:29] that's the key right she's a pretty strong character actor

[01:00:32] so you know

[01:00:33] that's going to be tough

[01:00:36] alright well anything else

[01:00:37] from the list that we need to talk about

[01:00:40] obviously Murray's not going to give Tyrese

[01:00:42] a mesmerizing either

[01:00:44] so

[01:00:46] I can't give him a based on one role

[01:00:49] he's on way too many fast and furious movies

[01:00:51] that's true

[01:00:51] he's in literally all of them

[01:00:53] although he's pretty mesmerizing compared to everybody else

[01:00:55] in that

[01:00:57] maybe

[01:00:59] alright I guess that's enough of that

[01:01:01] okay then

[01:01:09] last time on rage or dare

[01:01:12] Bryce picked from the

[01:01:14] Merman's ice creamy bucket of rage

[01:01:16] and pulled a 2B tastic

[01:01:18] Arnie Flick when he picked the

[01:01:20] 2014 flop

[01:01:23] Sabotage

[01:01:25] I'm not sure what you're talking about

[01:01:26] when it comes to films flopping

[01:01:28] it's very ice to see you are paying attention

[01:01:30] to my later movie endeavors

[01:01:31] but you know what I have to say about

[01:01:34] decreased financial successes that well

[01:01:36] you know the Iceman cometh

[01:01:38] and the Iceman taketh away

[01:01:41] this week it's all

[01:01:42] Jimbo all the time and I'm sure Jim

[01:01:44] is itching to pull something from Bryce's

[01:01:47] back of rage but my guess

[01:01:48] is again that our slack jawed

[01:01:50] Yockel was too busy again

[01:01:52] to do his job

[01:01:54] don't worry Jim

[01:01:55] your god of rage is here to deliver

[01:01:58] us some evil

[01:01:59] now let's check in with Bryce and get the full

[01:02:02] scope of just how far our muscle

[01:02:04] bound politician has fallen from

[01:02:06] race and now

[01:02:07] get me to the chopper come on

[01:02:10] what are you waiting for

[01:02:12] do it do it now

[01:02:14] come on

[01:02:19] in case he was nice enough to

[01:02:21] to send us about 20 or 30

[01:02:23] new

[01:02:25] dares I think Bryce is a big juicy bag

[01:02:28] now you know the thing

[01:02:29] is that I think Bryce is intentionally doing

[01:02:31] that because he knows that Casey gives

[01:02:33] us gold and so

[01:02:35] he doesn't want what Casey's delivering

[01:02:38] so he's

[01:02:39] slack jawing his

[01:02:41] his role because

[01:02:43] instead of feeling the bag

[01:02:45] so I could take some of his he's making

[01:02:47] me try and take Casey's

[01:02:49] but I'm not falling for that Bryce

[01:02:50] I'm also going to choose

[01:02:53] from Murray's bag

[01:02:54] so take that

[01:02:57] alright now you want to tell

[01:02:59] us about Arnie's

[01:03:01] super movie he's busy playing

[01:03:03] with the dog I'm not playing with the dog

[01:03:05] um

[01:03:06] this this movie starts out it's

[01:03:09] and it's

[01:03:11] here's what it's about

[01:03:13] it's about this DEA

[01:03:14] task force alright

[01:03:16] sounds original and Arnie's like the

[01:03:18] head of it and they decide

[01:03:20] that they're gonna rob like this

[01:03:22] drug cartel

[01:03:24] sounds like a bad idea

[01:03:27] so

[01:03:28] they end up

[01:03:30] robbing this thing it's kind of ingenious the way

[01:03:32] they do it it's

[01:03:34] honestly this movie opens up

[01:03:36] kind of weird it opens up with this lady

[01:03:38] being tortured and you're like what the hell is going on

[01:03:41] and then they go to this drug

[01:03:42] they rob this drug cartel

[01:03:45] and

[01:03:46] then they go to get the money but basically

[01:03:48] they they rob it

[01:03:50] but they kind of put it all down the toilet

[01:03:52] right and then they're going to go fish it

[01:03:54] out of the out of the sewer I guess

[01:03:55] was the idea great idea that's right

[01:03:58] so when they get there

[01:04:00] though somebody's already

[01:04:02] taking it what

[01:04:04] yeah so that's where it kind of kicks

[01:04:06] off

[01:04:08] and as a side

[01:04:10] story

[01:04:11] the

[01:04:12] the

[01:04:13] torture that we see at the beginning is actually

[01:04:16] Arnie's wife

[01:04:18] yeah so his wife and his kids

[01:04:20] get tortured and killed in Mexico

[01:04:22] what in Mexico

[01:04:24] yeah so

[01:04:27] he's decided

[01:04:28] that he's gonna he's gonna get

[01:04:30] revenge or something I don't know

[01:04:32] anyways

[01:04:33] or something the movie

[01:04:36] I'm not I'm actually not doing it justice

[01:04:38] because for the first

[01:04:41] 4045 minutes

[01:04:42] I was literally saying to myself

[01:04:45] this movie isn't that bad

[01:04:47] this is the best other than

[01:04:49] other than other than Arnie dropping

[01:04:50] f-bombs like you've never seen before

[01:04:53] I've never seen him swear so much

[01:04:55] in my life which was kind of

[01:04:57] off putting in a way of seeing him say

[01:04:59] well if this if that and his accent

[01:05:01] but you know what

[01:05:02] I got over it

[01:05:04] and the movie wasn't that bad

[01:05:07] and then all of a sudden

[01:05:08] it started just getting silly

[01:05:10] what and here's the thing you got Terrence Howard

[01:05:13] in this

[01:05:14] it's obvious to me that you've put Terrence Howard

[01:05:17] in this he's literally said nothing

[01:05:18] through the whole thing so he's obviously

[01:05:21] gonna be like

[01:05:22] the kind of twist bad guy at the

[01:05:25] end and you just know it yeah because

[01:05:26] it's Terrence Howard and you didn't put him

[01:05:28] in to stand there and say nothing

[01:05:31] for for an hour and 20 minutes

[01:05:33] so that was pretty obvious

[01:05:36] Sam Worthington was as good as he's ever been in this

[01:05:39] he's actually really quite good in this

[01:05:41] Terrence Howard is always good even though he didn't say anything

[01:05:43] until the end but then at the end

[01:05:45] it got really really silly

[01:05:47] and there's this one

[01:05:49] lady

[01:05:51] that's part of the DEA crew here

[01:05:53] that is

[01:05:55] she's a drug addict

[01:05:57] and

[01:05:58] she's trying to do everything she can to

[01:06:01] get away with

[01:06:02] stuff let's just say without

[01:06:04] revealing too much

[01:06:06] but there's a scene where

[01:06:08] she kills a guy

[01:06:11] and he bleeds about

[01:06:12] I don't know 400 liters of blood

[01:06:14] sweet and there's blood everywhere

[01:06:17] and then she decides

[01:06:19] she's gonna cut him up

[01:06:20] and then put him

[01:06:22] in her own refrigerator

[01:06:24] and kind of folds him up and puts him

[01:06:26] in the refrigerator and then she

[01:06:28] cleans everything

[01:06:30] but then

[01:06:31] the guy like leaks another 400 liters

[01:06:34] of blood out of the fridge

[01:06:35] and there's a big pool but here's the thing

[01:06:37] she's putting him in his own refrigerator

[01:06:40] or her own refrigerator

[01:06:41] so what was the point of any of it

[01:06:44] you're not hiding him from anybody

[01:06:46] you just put him in your own refrigerator

[01:06:48] she wanted to keep him fresh

[01:06:49] so what was the point

[01:06:51] you're not transporting him somewhere else

[01:06:53] that's why you cut him into pieces

[01:06:55] maybe she's gonna eat him later

[01:06:57] it made no sense

[01:06:59] so anyways then there's like this

[01:07:00] weird high speed chase

[01:07:02] Terrence Howard meets his demise

[01:07:04] in the most anti-climatic

[01:07:07] way that could possibly happen

[01:07:08] and this movie that had some potential

[01:07:10] about this DEA

[01:07:13] guy

[01:07:13] was gonna rip off some drug guys

[01:07:17] so that he could get some funding

[01:07:19] for himself to go down to

[01:07:20] Mexico to take care of business

[01:07:22] and get revenge

[01:07:24] for his wife

[01:07:26] and his daughter

[01:07:28] I don't know if his daughter is son

[01:07:30] I don't even remember anymore

[01:07:32] but that wasn't a bad story

[01:07:35] let's have that story where

[01:07:36] I would have liked him to get the money

[01:07:38] go down to Mexico

[01:07:39] and start kicking some ass

[01:07:41] but then you get

[01:07:44] you get this weird last scene after all this

[01:07:47] has happened

[01:07:47] where he's like stacking money in front of

[01:07:50] some corrupt police guy

[01:07:52] in Mexico

[01:07:53] he's stacking like 10 million

[01:07:54] because by the way he's the one that stole the money

[01:07:57] so he makes his crew think that

[01:07:59] and that's where this all just takes a weird turn

[01:08:02] anyways it wasn't very good

[01:08:04] at the end it had the potential

[01:08:06] to actually be good cause it actually

[01:08:07] it was good for about

[01:08:09] 40 minutes and then it just goes

[01:08:12] off the deep end and just the crazy

[01:08:14] takes over and some really

[01:08:16] bad decisions happen

[01:08:18] and why was

[01:08:20] Terrence Howard in this

[01:08:21] and having said all that

[01:08:23] this is as good as Sam Worthington's ever been

[01:08:25] he was good in it

[01:08:27] Arnie was Arnie so he was fine

[01:08:29] you know he's Arnie

[01:08:31] you don't expect a whole lot from Arnie

[01:08:33] but it just went off the

[01:08:35] it got so dumb at the end

[01:08:37] it became a rage and honestly

[01:08:39] it wasn't that bad for a while

[01:08:40] it really wasn't

[01:08:42] but then it was

[01:08:44] so bad

[01:08:46] so yes this was a rage

[01:08:47] okay good you know I thought that we'd

[01:08:50] never get that out

[01:08:50] yeah really

[01:08:53] like I don't have to watch the movie now cause he just described the whole thing

[01:08:56] yeah exactly

[01:08:56] why would you want to watch the movie

[01:08:58] I don't know cause you kind of made it sound like it might have been good

[01:09:00] it was okay for a while

[01:09:01] hey leave no loose ends

[01:09:04] that's the tagline on the movie

[01:09:06] so I was trying to leave no less loose ends

[01:09:08] I'm gonna take something from the Mermag's

[01:09:11] ice creamy bucket of tubetastic

[01:09:13] you mean I don't get to do it this week

[01:09:15] I do it every week

[01:09:16] paying attention

[01:09:17] you just say it's all Jim all the time

[01:09:20] oh and by the way

[01:09:23] Bryce too because Bryce has to do a rage

[01:09:25] movie every week

[01:09:26] you know if you don't be careful we're gonna vote that into

[01:09:29] you have to watch every week

[01:09:31] but I do

[01:09:33] except for this week this is the first week in like

[01:09:35] 47 weeks that I haven't had

[01:09:37] in forever

[01:09:38] I get to watch I think this is a Roseanne Barr

[01:09:41] movie oh good

[01:09:42] is it she devil yeah absolutely

[01:09:45] okay I love Roseanne

[01:09:47] I believe Merrill's in it too

[01:09:48] the greatest actor of all

[01:09:51] time yeah Roseanne

[01:09:53] Barr is with Merrill Streep

[01:09:55] and I love Ed Bagley Jr

[01:09:58] this is gonna be the best experience

[01:09:59] of my life sounds good

[01:10:01] yeah this could be I remember

[01:10:03] it actually not being that good I remember I did

[01:10:05] see this yeah I think

[01:10:06] I saw this in theaters

[01:10:10] so I'm looking forward to it

[01:10:11] because the first time was so good

[01:10:14] there you go

[01:10:15] there you go

[01:10:18] it's got Academy Award winners in it

[01:10:20] did you want me to talk more about sabotage

[01:10:22] maybe she didn't have it no it's okay

[01:10:24] no I think only of his beastie boys

[01:10:25] I think that yeah it was

[01:10:27] it was written by Skip Woods you know

[01:10:28] I wish that we had sabotage right now

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[01:11:12] rage on

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