Episode 256 - Twice the Penetration of Past Lives

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[00:00:16] [SPEAKER_04]: rage. My name is Bryson, I'm part of the Film Rage crew which also includes...what's

[00:00:22] [SPEAKER_04]: your name again? I remember Jim. Hey! Hey! And uh...Bryce?

[00:00:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I actually don't even remember this guy's name, I haven't seen him in so long.

[00:00:34] [SPEAKER_10]: What's happening? He's getting old and forgetful. Murray! That's his name!

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_10]: I think I'm the Merman. The Merman is here. It's been so long I don't remember.

[00:00:43] [SPEAKER_04]: The Merman is here. That's right, finally got a day off.

[00:00:46] [SPEAKER_04]: It's his Alzheimer's. So with the introductions out of the way...

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[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_10]: See you haven't changed the theme song. No!

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_07]: Did not miss this at all.

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_10]: All right so you guys saw three movies this week? We did! I did not. You saw two!

[00:02:14] [SPEAKER_07]: I did. We haven't seen you forever and then we see you.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_10]: First one, no clue. It says touch, read the synopsis, didn't watch the trailer,

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_10]: whatever, double mondo. Looks like slow and boring and foreign so sure.

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_10]: So it must be a mondo for you guys! For us too that's usually a pretty good

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_06]: guest. That's right. That's usually a recipe for fantastic. And we had the very creepy

[00:02:40] [SPEAKER_10]: Nick Cage and Long Legs which knowing how much you love Nick Cage and especially the creepy

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_10]: Nick Cage. Let's go double mondo with that one too. Just weird enough you guys loved it I'm sure.

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_10]: Did you notice who directed it though? I didn't see. All right. Oz. Who? Oz who? Oz Good Perkins.

[00:03:01] [SPEAKER_10]: The hell is that? He's also somebody that we love. Okay there you go. So there so that's

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_08]: also a pretty good thing he knew that because then it would be even a more solid chance at

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_10]: the last one which I'm a little unsure of because just because of what kind of movie it was.

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_10]: I'm thinking the Bryce probably hated it gave it a rage because it's all everything

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_10]: Hollywood that he doesn't like and I think Jim just because he loves the Tatum might have given

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_08]: it's circus folk music Murray. Same thing. No. Because the tallest man in the world Bryce

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_08]: with the fattest man in the world me we could also be in the circus music. Sure. And then the

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Merman part man part merman just in a tank just swimming around. All right then. Doesn't

[00:04:06] [SPEAKER_08]: have to have any clowns in it whatsoever. Yeah right go. Why is our music so low?

[00:04:11] [SPEAKER_10]: Is it lower than you're talking solar? No. It's the same as it always is. Same as it ever was.

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Same as it ever was. Same as it ever was. All right so we saw a movie called what about this recap.

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_10]: Touch touch touch touch me love. Well that's what it says here. Oh no sorry. It doesn't never mind.

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Do you know what as well as Bryce not remembering anybody's name or he forgot how to read it.

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_08]: No because I put my things where the cinema. Your things and things. I totally get the things.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_08]: I totally get it. Okay go. So what we're Bryce what was the movie going on. We saw touch.

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Touch. Yeah what was it? It was a movie. Yeah it's definitely a movie Icelandic movie. Yeah well

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Icelandic Japanese English. There's a lot going on. Co-production. That's what I'm trying to

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_04]: figure out who actually produced this movie and now I'm at the point where it's taking too long so

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't really care anymore. Well yeah I mean I don't know do our listeners care they can go online

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_04]: and look it up. Well that's what I'm doing. They're driving right now. I'm doing it on their time.

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh I see. Yeah okay listeners just take a two minute break here while Bryce fucks around.

[00:05:26] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah I'm done. Yeah touch it is a movie about a young gentleman who drops out of university and

[00:05:35] [SPEAKER_04]: decides to be a chef sort of. He works he goes to work for I guess I should he goes to work for a

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_04]: Japanese restaurant in where was it? London England. We're in London. Is it Cherry old

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_04]: England? So he's from Iceland. Yes and he's going to university in England and then he works in a

[00:06:02] [SPEAKER_04]: Japanese restaurant. Yes which I don't even understand like how could he probably I don't know how the

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_04]: what the rules were back then but just drop out of university. It was the 1950s or 40s.

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_08]: It doesn't matter you can just you can just immigrate anywhere. I'm here. I'm here. I'm working.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm working. Well they would probably get working visas if you're a student right so.

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_08]: But he wasn't a student. He dropped out. Yeah but he's still what like once you have that pass

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_08]: it's usually good for two years and then you can just. At any rate so he goes to work for

[00:06:32] [SPEAKER_04]: this Japanese restaurant of course he meets the daughter of the of the person who runs it

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_08]: and he falls in love. What Oh you didn't also mention that it's an Icelandic

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_04]: United Kingdom production. Well I said I thought it was I said Icelandic. Yeah you didn't know

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_04]: and I'm telling you now so now it is Icelandic. It's Icelandic. You can't have nothing to do with

[00:06:59] [SPEAKER_04]: Japan had nothing even though 90 percent of the actors in is in Japanese everybody and it's

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_04]: Japanese including the Icelandic guy after a while. There you go. So yeah it's it's kind of a movie

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_04]: in the vein of past lives where it's like it's like it's kind of like past lives only like 30 years

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_04]: later if everything started 30 years or well maybe 20 years every now not even 15 years.

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_08]: You're doing a terrible job. I know trying to buy this to pass lives. They're completely

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_04]: different. No they're not though it's like they're the exact same movie. Okay but different.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay at any rate. Except for one of them is Icelandic. Yeah okay.

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_04]: Mild differences instead of two Korean people if you played them at the same time. It's like

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_04]: not a lot. Not a lot. It's different. They are different but they have it's it's kind of like that

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_04]: though you know it's that that initial love big break coming back together things have changed

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_08]: except in in past lives they never had sex their entire time together. Yeah yeah so it's

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_08]: nothing like that these people had intimate physical relations they said I love you to

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_08]: each other. These were kids in past lives they were two kids that were kind of cute together

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_08]: and then they met up again in their 20s and we're doing over the internet conversations. Yes

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_08]: still never had there's no penetration that happened. Oh there was there was penetration.

[00:08:42] [SPEAKER_08]: Well but they're not physical. Yeah exactly but in this it's a completely different thing

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_04]: because there was an actual man. They have headsets. It was a little bit like demolition

[00:08:53] [SPEAKER_06]: man as well. You're analogy on this is terrible that's what I'm just going to say. There's only

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_08]: thing that it's related to that's like past lives at all. Yeah is that there was two people that

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_08]: might have been meant to be together. Yes and then they didn't become together. So as I said it

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_04]: was exactly like past lives. Asian elements in it. Well so did past life. That's what he said.

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_04]: That's sad. Where are you tonight? At any rate.

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Tell it please tell us more. Just get on with it. Our listeners David is really not impressed

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_06]: with you tonight I can tell you that right now. Who's David. David's our listener. Oh we have a

[00:09:36] [SPEAKER_06]: listener. There's more on that to come. All right we have Philip too. Yeah but I don't know

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_06]: listening tonight. No he's not listening tonight. We're live just anyways two people fall in love

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_04]: 50 years together or 50 years later they lead totally separate lives just like past lives

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_04]: and then 50 years later he's obsessed with that movie. Past lives is an awesome movie.

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_04]: Yes and this is a good movie at any rate so they all lead they lead separate lives

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_04]: but then 50 years later go by and stuff happens it's a pandemic he's sick he feels the need that

[00:10:19] [SPEAKER_04]: he has to go back and find this love of his life. Because it never ended up being his love of his life.

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_04]: You have to tie up the loose ends and yeah well that's what doctors say. Yeah once I say he's

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_04]: dying I don't have to go into all that because every doctor says that there isn't a doctor on the

[00:10:36] [SPEAKER_04]: planet that doesn't say that but we saw that they also say stupid shit like you know you can eat

[00:10:40] [SPEAKER_04]: ice cream until you die too. Like it's a freaking they all have their stuff that they say and it's

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_04]: taught to them in the bloody in bloody school and they all say the same goddamn crap but they don't

[00:10:52] [SPEAKER_04]: always show up your loose ends and you can eat whatever you want now like that's supposed to

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_04]: be oh I'm gonna freaking die but I can eat whatever I want. That's fantastic. I'm gonna die I'm

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_05]: eating whatever I want. I'm no kidding but you don't need him to tell you how to hurt. I start smoking too.

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_07]: Sorry what was I talking about? He found out he's dying. Yeah so he goes to find the love of his life

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_04]: wants to see what's what's what and he finds her. Okay then there you go that's the movie. Now we

[00:11:32] [SPEAKER_04]: all right there you go. Here's the thing it shouldn't have been quite as either either they needed to

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_04]: do something different with it or it didn't need to be quite as long as it was. I enjoyed it a lot.

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_04]: The performances are fantastic. There isn't one person in this that didn't nail it. Knock it out

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_04]: of the park but there was it was a little draggy at times and it was one of those movies that

[00:11:52] [SPEAKER_04]: I wanted to love like I really did and in the first 10 minutes I thought I was gonna love

[00:11:58] [SPEAKER_04]: it. First 10 minutes went by and I'm like oh yeah baby this is gonna be awesome and it was still really

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_04]: really good but it wasn't awesome. I almost think that if they should have made the first 10 minutes

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_04]: not quite as good then maybe my expectations would have come down and maybe it could have

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_04]: eaten a mondo if they didn't make the first part so good. It peaked too soon. But it was

[00:12:20] [SPEAKER_05]: a little draggy so it's mad. Well let me tell you what I thought. They made the first part

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_05]: too good Murray. If they would have made it a little worse it could have been mondo. It should have

[00:12:30] [SPEAKER_04]: been a 10 minute short is what you're saying. That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying they need

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_05]: to bring down my expectations in the first 10 minutes. Don't jump right out of the gate with

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_04]: goodness. Just slowly bring the goodness in. Too strong coming out of the gate and then it

[00:12:45] [SPEAKER_04]: just whew. All right so it picked it up at the end. I love the end. I really really like

[00:12:50] [SPEAKER_08]: it was like a man. It was like a mass sandwich with two mondo pieces of bread.

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah it was mondo on the outside and then a little bit in the middle because it got a little

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_08]: draggy. Yeah all right so Iceland but everyone should go watch it because it's good. Iceland

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_08]: meets Japan in London in this love story that spans 50 or 70 or maybe it's 100 years. I don't

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_08]: know it was a long time. It's 50. It's a long time. Well let's just say it's a long time.

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_08]: Two young lovers fall in love. There is penetration and a dying man in his golden years. This time

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_04]: physical penetration unlike past lives exactly which was wishful thinking. No no no it was

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_08]: self it was emotional penetration. There we go okay there's a huge difference.

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_08]: So and a dying man in his golden years wants to find his first love before he dies. Not his

[00:13:50] [SPEAKER_08]: true love it was his first love that he felt he should have been with. The story is quiet

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_08]: and well he had a wife that he ended up living with for a long time and then they had a kid

[00:14:02] [SPEAKER_04]: together. He had a whole life together. He loved her but not like his love of his life.

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_08]: His Japanese girlfriend that he knew for like six months. Oh but there was

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_04]: there was there was a lot of penetration. I get it emotional and physical and twice the

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_08]: penetration is past lives. They're so they're saying that word. So the story is quiet and calm

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_08]: through the whole movie and all the secondary characters were all fantastic and added a

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_08]: levity to the story with things like 50 year old Japanese ladies being a jokester who may

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_08]: or may not wear a miniskirt one day and a landlady who wants to feed you fried bread

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_01]: to grease your lungs Murray. Yes let me make you some fat bread.

[00:14:58] [SPEAKER_08]: Here's some fried bread to grease up your foot. I was like half Italian.

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know what you're doing. So the story moves a little too slow. It does. But moves back in

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_08]: time between the past and the present easily. Yeah it lasted a little longer than I had hoped.

[00:15:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah it wasn't a traditional romance story which made it a little bit more palatable than

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_08]: romance stories deserve to be. It was cute. Yeah it was me. I didn't love this movie

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_08]: but I liked it. Yeah it was too long like I just remember sitting in the cinema going this is

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_08]: now too long and I looked at my watch twice which is always bad and it was the second movie of the

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_10]: night. Yes so yeah you got home at what one o'clock in the morning something like that by the way

[00:15:50] [SPEAKER_04]: after our conversation anymore I have a leading candidate for the title of our episode.

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh right. Twice the penetration of past lives. Yes.

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_06]: You know what that's a hit because people do like past lives we're going to get most downloads ever.

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_05]: There we go then it's done. Our episode will be called twice the penetration of past life.

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_10]: You know what we've got on Google looking for porn are going to find that. That's fine.

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_05]: Are you two we don't discriminate anybody can listen to us. You know I should put in her

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_08]: parentheses a DP too because then 100% we're going to have triple our listenership.

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_08]: All right so anything else you want to talk about the updated version of past lives.

[00:16:38] [SPEAKER_04]: It's not the Japanese version of past lives. It's like past lives if one was Icelandic and one

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_04]: was Japanese or how about this and it took place 20 years. It's absolutely nothing like

[00:16:51] [SPEAKER_08]: past lives and past lives is a brilliant film. This was just a good film.

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. Well that wouldn't say nothing like it. It's like it's literally twice the penetration.

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay there you go. All right so the other movie we got to see was a movie called long legs

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_08]: but not long space legs. It's long legs as in the spider as in the spider as the mer says

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_08]: so what Osgood Jenkins does brilliantly is create tone and atmosphere and dread mixed with a way of

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_08]: shooting that is original and creepy and dripping with a feel that is often hard to put into words

[00:17:39] [SPEAKER_08]: but it makes you uncomfortable and makes you want to see things that aren't really there

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_08]: but you feel that they should be shots that show empty space behind the intended shot and then

[00:17:51] [SPEAKER_08]: long deep shots with quick edits and sometimes a jump scare just thrown in for some spice

[00:17:58] [SPEAKER_08]: but not often a jump scare and this one like most of his films is a very slow burn.

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_08]: For most of the film the viewers left in a daze about what's fully going on

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_08]: just that our lead played by Micah Monroe who's possibly psychic or somehow knows more than she's

[00:18:18] [SPEAKER_08]: letting on and although she is brilliant she is also herself a character that is odd and creepy

[00:18:27] [SPEAKER_08]: and completely an anomaly. This story for the most part takes us on a mystery to solve this

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_08]: killer called long legs played by the one and only Nicholas Cage. I was captivated by the feel and

[00:18:43] [SPEAKER_08]: look of this film and although this had an ending that was somewhat predictable I enjoyed the whole

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_08]: time as it unfolded and even though the ending leaves us a bit hanging it left me feeling

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_08]: that feeling of ah it's good you have been away too long and just like Gretel and Hansel you made

[00:19:08] [SPEAKER_08]: four years ago long legs is Mondo if I can love this movie got a lot on the packing to do but what

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_10]: do you kid say? The murder was right and I hurt my neck. You are next. I'm gonna keep it short.

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_10]: Creepy Nick Cage. I don't like creepy Nick Cage. What? I like funny charming and wacko Nick Cage.

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_10]: What? This performance was way too creepy it seemed like a silence of the lambs rip off

[00:19:40] [SPEAKER_10]: with some exorcist elements. It's kind of like science of the lambs but more satanic. Didn't get

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_10]: interesting until near the end man. All right well you still gave it a math. It didn't get

[00:19:52] [SPEAKER_04]: interesting until the end. I thought the whole thing was interesting until the end

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_10]: I want people to die right away. Did you watch it from the back to the front? Did you watch it in

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_04]: reverse? It's possible. That's kind of funny because the credits kind of came came down in

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_10]: reverse yeah that was your consumer dot deny if I fell asleep all right sorry you said math

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_04]: he did say math. All right that's cool. Yeah Osgood Perkins as you mentioned has a way

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_04]: everything he puts on the screen you feel it. You're not just watching an Osgood Perkins

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_04]: you're immersed in it you feel it you feel it the music the camera movements every little thing

[00:20:40] [SPEAKER_04]: that he does is effective and the fact that he's picked kind of you know genre films to make

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_04]: is great I'd like to see him do something different at some point yeah and I'm sure he will

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_04]: oh yeah but right now he is just nailing every one of these efforts beginning to end this was great

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_04]: uh once again I mean yeah Nick Cage is is is Nick Cage um honestly he wasn't the strongest part of

[00:21:12] [SPEAKER_04]: this movie for me but he also wasn't a big part of the movie but he wasn't a big part and he didn't

[00:21:18] [SPEAKER_04]: he wasn't distracting you know even though he plays this completely over the top yeah

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_04]: but that's that's this character and true Osgood Perkins direction he he gives you just enough Nick

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Cage yeah you know if if the somebody that that wasn't Osgood Perkins might have put Nick Cage in

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_04]: this a lot more and kind of wrecked the whole thing yeah but he's just puts the right amount

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_08]: of Nick yeah well and even even like shots like when you first get to see Nick Cage when you

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_08]: see him just bend down or you're just like oh my god yeah what are you yeah and they'd like to

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_10]: zoom in and out in the camera yes started with a little tiny 70s window yeah he's he's so creative

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_04]: with his shooting style anyway sorry go on breaks yeah no it's all good um I honestly I'm trying to

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_04]: think where do I know Mike I'm Mike I'm a Monroe from Agent Lee Parker because I don't know her

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_04]: from two but because yeah she was she was really good Blair Underwood just popping up after I don't

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_04]: know when the heck the last time I saw him in anything I don't think he does he done any movies

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_04]: period I mean he must have I think wasn't he he was a deep impact was he in deep impact

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_04]: wasn't he in western and Gad Gad Gad Gadica he was in Gad oh yeah yeah yeah he was okay anyways

[00:22:39] [SPEAKER_04]: he was he was fine but uh yeah no Mike I'm in a row I thought you know I honestly it follows

[00:22:47] [SPEAKER_04]: oh is that where she was from because I know she like I've seen her I figured I'd seen her before

[00:22:53] [SPEAKER_08]: but I was like I can't play and also she was in that really not so great movie with Murray's favorite

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_08]: child actor the fifth wave the fifth wave I don't even know what that is yeah what's the

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_04]: I thought she was really good um yeah but I mean it's all about the direction of

[00:23:15] [SPEAKER_04]: all those good Perkins and as I say the the way that you just get so immersed in his films

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_04]: you I mean this is not as good as Gretel and Hansel I mean it's just not but Gretel and

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_08]: Hansel was so amazing that that still makes this Mondo oh yeah like but did you agree that

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_08]: it like it's one of those movies and we talked about this before where you know what the ending is

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_08]: going to be but because you're so along for the ride by the time you get there it's like it's not

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_08]: annoying that it was predictable because the how it how it ended was so good like the very end of

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_04]: this movie is a fantastic ending yeah here's here's the only problem I had with it I don't think

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_04]: they should have advertised that Nick Cage was in this I think that I think that Osgood Perkins

[00:24:04] [SPEAKER_04]: name is enough to get people in the theater one of the reading the hype killed it a bit yeah and

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_04]: I just I think they should have pulled like a you know a Tom Cruise in Tropic Thunder

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_04]: deal where they just did not tell anybody that it was Tom Cruise Tom Cruise yeah well I know they

[00:24:21] [SPEAKER_10]: could figure it out from the shots of him I mean like well no I'm not saying that they couldn't

[00:24:27] [SPEAKER_04]: figure it out Murray I'm saying that nobody the people going into it that first weekend

[00:24:32] [SPEAKER_04]: should have been surprised yeah and and half of them would be going is that Nick Cage

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_08]: you can only tell by his voice actually when you look at him you can't tell that's fucking

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_04]: Nick Cage that's because you knew it was Nick Cage if you didn't 100% know it was Nick Cage

[00:24:51] [SPEAKER_08]: and you're looking at you might be going I think the voice that Nick Cage the voice the voice

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_08]: is really what gave gives it away especially when he does it's really creepy yeah but I really

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_04]: I really think they dropped the ball on that but that's not enough to annoy me to the point that

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_04]: you know that I didn't wouldn't recommend it but it's I just don't understand why they would

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_04]: do that like they put Nick Cage's name front and center makes no sense especially since he's

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_04]: not even really a huge part of it no I mean I mean if anything he's just the title of it

[00:25:21] [SPEAKER_08]: because you know here we don't obviously don't want to give too many spoilers on this this is

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_08]: one of those ones that is a suspense thriller more than it is a horror I mean there is horror in it

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_08]: but it's really like just like silence of the lambs and that respect it's this mystery to solve

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_08]: like who is Long Legs and what's it all about but at each ways you go along like to me what

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_08]: what Oz does really really really really well is the music and this also had original music

[00:25:51] [SPEAKER_08]: just like Gretel and Hansel just like um what is it Black Coat's Daughter yeah yeah like

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Black Coat's Daughter it's just so good like he his way with incorporating the music into

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_08]: his films is just is just just so brilliant and um yeah the character development in this

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_08]: versus the style of the film so I didn't feel it was a huge character development film for me

[00:26:19] [SPEAKER_08]: but it because of the style of it I was okay with it like it was just how the style rolled out like

[00:26:25] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah I you could complain about there not being a lot of character development in it other than

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_08]: the one main character but you kind of knew each character who they were you knew enough

[00:26:34] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah to make it still good yeah this music is so good all right not this music we're listening to

[00:26:42] [SPEAKER_08]: but the music in this movie so good music in your head the music in my head from the music

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_04]: from the movie absolutely no excellent movie loved Long Legs go see it yep

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_07]: ah

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_10]: Fly me to the moon which is the other movie that we saw though I just ate alone because

[00:27:05] [SPEAKER_10]: somebody else had a date with you know their wife whatever that's right what it has

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_10]: so I could wear a suit and on July 20th 1969 what these astronauts of Apollo 11 Neil Armstrong

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_10]: Buzz Aldrin and Michael Collins whatever that is landed on the moon or did they

[00:27:28] [SPEAKER_10]: bum bum bum fly me to the moon is about the mission the people behind it the government

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_10]: conspiracy and one very savvy ad executive who pulls it all together one word f u n this was

[00:27:46] [SPEAKER_10]: a delightfully funny entertaining film from start to finish

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_10]: at a whole crap load of my favorite actors the Tatum

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_10]: Scarjo Woody Harrelson Ray Romano in a nice role in the ever funny Jim rash

[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_10]: also directed by Greg Berlanti who did pretty much every superhero TV show on the CW

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_10]: case you didn't know who that was I didn't there you go he's vented all that

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_10]: well I didn't like the whole rom-com storyline everything else was very well written

[00:28:29] [SPEAKER_10]: thought this film would be funnier but it was still funny I was not prepared for the emotional

[00:28:34] [SPEAKER_10]: performances by Tatum and Scarjo which again proved how good they both are I was completely

[00:28:41] [SPEAKER_10]: captivated by them both and the story of course it's a mondo all right fly me to the moon

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_04]: one word underwhelming um it was fine I mean it had some entertaining bits in it I will say that

[00:29:02] [SPEAKER_04]: two actors saved it for me Jim rash as you as you mentioned as as the director

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_04]: um not as the director of the film but as the director in the film um and Ray Romano as Henry

[00:29:17] [SPEAKER_04]: Smalls I I'm just baffled at how much I enjoy Ray Romano in every role that I've seen him on the

[00:29:26] [SPEAKER_10]: big screen like I actually agree as well I never watched his TV show and never probably

[00:29:31] [SPEAKER_10]: he's not funny he ever since he got done that I like him in everything he has been so good

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_04]: every time he gets cast in anything and sometimes I'll think why I think cast and then I go oh that's

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_04]: why because he's he's just been brilliant every time now having said that it's not like he's got a

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_04]: whole lot of range kind of does the same shtick every time but he does it so so well that if

[00:29:56] [SPEAKER_04]: he's right for the role and that's why he's not in a ton of stuff yeah because he doesn't have a

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_04]: lot of range but when you've got that character that you're like this is the Ray Romano

[00:30:04] [SPEAKER_04]: character you know what we might as well get Ray Romano because it's kind of a Ray Romano

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_04]: character and every time he's going to nail it the stick sticks but you know as I say uh

[00:30:18] [SPEAKER_04]: was it it had some entertaining bits in it it was too long um at the end of the day I did not

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_04]: love it but I didn't hate it you know it's it's an entertaining little summer popcorn movie

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_04]: um not really my type of movie kidding but I still found it reasonably entertaining I wasn't

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_08]: dreading it a surprise it is um it was a it was a man all right well let me take this home to the

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_08]: ball game or something that's like an American term isn't it yeah something like that uh

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_08]: Scarge oh and Chathams Chathams and Scarge oh they're just so beautiful so beautiful

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_08]: it's not possible in reality that anyone as gorgeous as these two people

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_08]: ever worked at Nassau have you seen the people that work at Nassau they are ugly yeah but

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_08]: that's kind of the point the rumors of the moon landing being faked has been around

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_08]: forever well since the moon landing is it in fact Kubrick was the one most thought of

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_08]: who directed it this is an alternative universe film they actually mentioned his name yeah they did

[00:31:30] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah they actually did they obviously should have gotten Kubrick for the for the inside joke

[00:31:36] [SPEAKER_08]: this is an alternative universe film that takes an actual event and makes Hollywood love story

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_08]: to take your date to and to hold hands well at least that's what I did with my wife and apparently

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_08]: was was so unimpressed yeah that I only got to first base that night because

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_08]: she was so unimpressed she wasn't in love with the Tatum she did not love the movie oh she loves

[00:32:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Tatum she loves Chathams it's not Tatums it's Chathams whatever you got to put his first name

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_08]: in his last name together it's Channing Tatum which becomes Chathams who else is named Tatum like

[00:32:17] [SPEAKER_08]: I hate all that cutesy stuff I know his name is Channing Tatum that's exactly why I'm doing it

[00:32:24] [SPEAKER_04]: I love that yeah so Chathams it's all so stupid Scarjo Scarjo you know what Scarjo is ridiculous

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_04]: her name Scarlett Johansson yes but everyone knows what Scarjo is what the hell is a Scarjo it

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_04]: sounds like a something he scar Joe well it should be a hyphen but what's good about a scar

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_04]: that's like a cut that like leaves a I don't understand it's kind of like her she gives a crap

[00:32:50] [SPEAKER_10]: of the JLo is either that's not the point yeah it's just I hate J that's dumb or or a benefit

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_10]: he gives a crap of that either I don't know what a benefit is yeah I find that hard to believe anyway

[00:33:01] [SPEAKER_08]: move on you know what that's just the best but what I can also say is the scene with the moon landing

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_08]: and what they hold did with the whole direction thing was really cool

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_06]: I'd laugh my ass

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_08]: you got the feel of what it might have actually been like on this moon landing both from the

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_08]: production side of it and yeah from the fake guy you do one yeah might have as far as casting is

[00:33:29] [SPEAKER_08]: concerned the scar joe and the chathams weren't fine however Jim rash as Lance Hesperton

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_08]: was the best thing about this movie I'll agree with that Woody Harrelson and this is miscast

[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_08]: in this and his character is out of place and it seems too made up for this real persona

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_08]: doesn't remind me of it I did not I did not like Woody Harrelson's in this I think they

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_08]: could have picked somebody different for it it just didn't I didn't fit and I didn't even think

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_04]: that the like the the character was just no it was just it was weak and not developed it made no

[00:34:03] [SPEAKER_04]: sense yeah I don't believe that this person ever existed well yeah that's that's what makes

[00:34:08] [SPEAKER_10]: it silly about it because it it no they were for Nixon so of course it was yeah but but that's

[00:34:14] [SPEAKER_08]: just so you don't have one person that that is is the puppet master of these things probably has

[00:34:20] [SPEAKER_08]: one person who does that it's it's the whole character fell off to me I didn't really connect

[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_08]: with the rom-com as Murray said twist is and I put this in in quotes rom-com twist

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_08]: was a rom-com because there's no possible way that happened in real life really go didn't really

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_10]: happen till near the end but yeah because they're working together but there was flirting and stuff

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah the story seemed not fully realized and as much as I know everybody loves Raymond and yes

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_08]: he was also good in this um but uh I laughed at a few points um I was intrigued with the

[00:34:59] [SPEAKER_08]: original story of this conspiracy moon landing stuff I was not alive but not enough to fall in love

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_08]: with this iteration of it there's been better movies based on this yeah exactly in fact there's

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_04]: been some documentaries about it documentaries too but there is actually a dramatic move I don't

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_08]: remember what it was yeah but it was better than this the question is was was Jim was Jim rash

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_08]: alone strong enough to keep this from being a rage was it that's uh that is the question it was for me

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_08]: yes was it for you but I'm not like Bryce I'm not judging the entire movie based on one person's

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_08]: actions well there's two that two for me that is true so Jim rash was Mondo this was not

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_08]: but it's still eking out a man so that apparently we got two mezzanamondo so we got a Mondo sandwich

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_08]: there we go yeah that's exciting yeah I you know what uh I want I need a Mondo sandwich yeah

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_08]: um I thought it was really gonna as I've got through half of this I was like not loving it

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_08]: as much but I think I think what I like what I think I did like about this was the era that

[00:36:18] [SPEAKER_08]: it's talking about I think they captured the feel of that era again it's the feel of the movie I don't

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_10]: think the movie was great I think I mentioned before how much I love the 60s yeah I think I

[00:36:29] [SPEAKER_08]: was born in what 10 years too late there you go well you know why Marie because if you're born

[00:36:34] [SPEAKER_08]: and you could have been around in the 60s you could have a get some of that sweet sweet

[00:36:38] [SPEAKER_10]: free love apart from you know all the violence and stuff I love the 60s the music the clothes the

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_08]: free love everything don't forget the free love awesome take all the free love you can get

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_08]: sadly I was born in 71 where so yeah it was uh any unpacking anybody wants to do this I just

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_10]: looked it was like he said it's a great summer popcorn movie if you're not even really serious

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_10]: I think it was a lot of fun and had a lot of funny moments and yeah the whole thing at the end

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_10]: where they're trying to sync up the well trying to sync up the actual landing of the yeah with the

[00:37:10] [SPEAKER_10]: fake thing could not stop laughing all this shit that was going wrong yeah I don't want to give that

[00:37:16] [SPEAKER_10]: away but yeah the cat it's like what are you looking to say what is he a cat walk across the moon

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_10]: Jim Jim rash was so good he was he was on fire he was pretty good yeah I didn't watch

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_10]: was he was a community or was yeah he's he was in community yeah I don't know what that is

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_08]: it's a TV show but that's where he's from well I don't want to say from my guest

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_10]: direct stuff oh that's cool yeah no I loved it that was awesome awesome all right nobody hated it

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_08]: wait nobody hated anything this week what the hell is going on I'm I went I went man I wasn't

[00:37:50] [SPEAKER_10]: crazy about long man Mondo man I didn't give it a rage like I probably want there you go

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_08]: all right well um we're gonna have a bit of a chat here because uh if everybody who's listening

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_08]: last week when I had my meltdown about having to watch Despicable Me 4 uh it generated a conversation

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_08]: which I took out to social media and to some of our listeners and to some of uh our podcast family

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_08]: and the consensus was we should be okay to see good quality produced animation films

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_08]: so not to veto them all together as in Dix and Disney and Pixar well so here's Pixar illumination

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_04]: stuff that's not made for according to you guys most most of the best animated films are like

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_08]: or in any way they're from Japan yeah right yeah Ghibli Ghibli Giblets Ghibli Giblets

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah that's Ghibli yeah that one um yeah but it's funny how it was more than four people said

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_08]: to me they don't think we should go see movies like Paw Patrol which are actually written that are

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_04]: like TV shows that makes me want to watch Paw Patrol because I don't know what they're talking about

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_04]: but I've never seen Paw Patrol well basically Paw Patrol so I need to I need to watch Paw Patrol

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_08]: Paw Patrol wouldn't like it well the it's one of those ones just like that stupid Kevin

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_08]: Costner movie it was a TV show that got put into the movie theaters by mistake well I don't think

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_10]: it was a mistake I'm pretty sure I wanted to see SpongeBob Squarepants with you yeah well that's an

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_04]: amazing movie I never watched the show yeah that was that would actually that that did stand on its

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_08]: own though I believe yeah absolutely so yeah anyway so this is opening us up to

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_08]: seeing kids movies kids because our listeners want to know what we think of them because

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_08]: one of the people in particular has grown ass adults yeah well because here's the thing

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_08]: if if we go see this and we don't bring kids with us and we tell them what it's about

[00:40:01] [SPEAKER_08]: that it's awful you won't like it or whatever the case may leave us well no well that's what

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_08]: they're saying because if we go see a movie and it's good we're going to say that for the adult

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_08]: that's going so they can just so as one person said to me one person said to me yeah so that I can

[00:40:16] [SPEAKER_06]: tell my wife to take my kid instead of me take my kid I'm like yeah so I want to know what you

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_08]: guys have to say about it so obviously we're going to put it into rotation if there's

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_08]: six movies out and there's a seventh one that is a kids movie we might not see that but

[00:40:31] [SPEAKER_08]: apparently we have opened up the door for conversion films and rom-coms though

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_08]: because they all want us to see that and then they literally everybody went ha ha

[00:40:44] [SPEAKER_08]: start watching rump curbs so apparently we're we're watching that the only the only person

[00:40:53] [SPEAKER_04]: that that's not painful for is Murray the rom-coms and then he doesn't go see them all the one

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_10]: single guy yeah no they're painful for me too because moosh they're terrible but

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_08]: it was in them you know what you do is you get a date and you make some popcorn surprise and then

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah well then that's how you get to third base then you can find me a date that's right

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_10]: let's go you know what I'm making him a profile right now there you go get on that tinder stuff

[00:41:18] [SPEAKER_10]: yeah okay we done yeah that's it we're gonna watch kids all right good for you

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_10]: and we haven't heard this music in a long time yeah I forgot what I'm doing okay well this might be

[00:41:35] [SPEAKER_10]: a little expected in honor of this week's NASA based Hollywood blockbuster I present my favorite

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_10]: astronaut type movies uh-oh ironically I have no real interest in astronomy or the space program

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_10]: neither do I I don't give two craps if they go if they go to space anymore

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_10]: is Buzz Lightyear on your list oh it's a cartoon he doesn't watch cartoons

[00:42:01] [SPEAKER_10]: Toy Story was good but they didn't really go to space that's also a cartoon uh that was in the past

[00:42:06] [SPEAKER_10]: I do love my Hollywood goes to space movie so why I am excluding first man only because I haven't

[00:42:16] [SPEAKER_10]: seen it yet is Jason X on your mood on your list yeah is fast and the furious NASA

[00:42:23] [SPEAKER_10]: astronauts oh not fast and the furious nine where they have a car in space

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_08]: but you're saying astronauts not astronauts actually astronauts so I don't understand so

[00:42:34] [SPEAKER_10]: they've got to be national official type astronaut type movies yes that's what I'm saying so gravity

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_10]: anyway first man features the Gosling so it's on my list of watch if I ever get around to it

[00:42:46] [SPEAKER_10]: there's also a new one called spaceman with Adam Sandler which I'm sure you two guys will enjoy

[00:42:54] [SPEAKER_10]: I watched it I watched as well and I like that I didn't like it there you go

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_10]: thought it was a come to the theater whatever uh okay first up now it's like on neplex yeah

[00:43:03] [SPEAKER_10]: sure I don't have that yet uh Armageddon 1998 I hesitantly put this movie on here

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_10]: I'm sorry these are the these are the movies you like yes okay so you do like this let me explain it

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_10]: okay I have to please do because I have to put the movie on here because I'm explaining to do

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_10]: it features Ben Affleck the actor I love the most in this world Ben I know is the one in fact

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_10]: this was the movie that put him on my list right for me so I didn't know you liked Ben

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_10]: his performance made me hate him yeah this movie his performance in this movie alone made me hate him

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_10]: for life he is terrible in this mood uh it also features the nauseating Liv Tyler the two of them

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_10]: together made me want to lose my lunch actually she's repulsive don't get that but I liked everything

[00:43:53] [SPEAKER_10]: else in it Bruce Willis Will Patton Billy Bob Thornton Steve Buscemi Michael Clark Duncan

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_10]: I only liked Ben Affleck I like Peter Storm and all of Michael Bay's usual overblown spectacle

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_10]: and yes I did enjoy the movie for the most part except for you know it's uh it's terrible yeah well

[00:44:15] [SPEAKER_10]: I enjoyed it nice uh Apollo 13 1995 oh Tommy course this movie is on here my favorite director and

[00:44:25] [SPEAKER_10]: stars Tom Hanks plus Kevin Bacon and Bill Paxton I love those guys and it was sort of based on reality

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_10]: yeah who's man also I did Harrison it was me or what do you have some not sure which one

[00:44:39] [SPEAKER_10]: it was that Harris it's a Harris in that one yeah uh interstellar 2014 shot partly in Alberta

[00:44:48] [SPEAKER_10]: yes directed by Christopher Nolan yes it's Mando an incredible cast and all dropping visuals

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_10]: yes I thought it was way too long and it got weird at the end but it got good at the end

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_10]: it's a good ride exactly Matthew Mcconahy was stellar all right all right all right that's what I

[00:45:09] [SPEAKER_10]: wrote was he interstellar all right all right he was just stellar he was but he wasn't interstellar

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_10]: he was stellar all right uh next up you probably want to agree on space cowboys oh don't even start

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_10]: all guys in space oh no Tommy the Jones and the late great Donald Sutherland in his most fun role

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_10]: I enjoyed the hell of that movie this movie's painful I loved it I was awesome I gotta put that in

[00:45:39] [SPEAKER_10]: bag I just added one just tonight because I thought I forgot I think that wasn't the bag and you had

[00:45:45] [SPEAKER_06]: to watch it was it I don't think so I'll lay addition trying to get me not to put it in my bag

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_10]: yeah I wouldn't put it in there because I loved it I don't want you to trash anyway

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_10]: and next up I just I just added I feel like I forgot about it hidden figures

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_10]: mm sir Raji B. Henson hidden figures was excellent yeah Kassner Tavia Spencer my future wife and that guy

[00:46:10] [SPEAKER_10]: from Big Bang Theory um yeah it was pretty good and that's sort of historically accurate and also

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_10]: the deal with the man on the moon so same topic yeah it was good it's great next up you're gonna love this

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_10]: space balls oh I never thought of space balls uh it's not not generally considered the lesser

[00:46:31] [SPEAKER_10]: of the asteroid crashing to earth movies I actually referred this one to the Michael Bay movie I did

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_10]: too actually if it's a great cast but more serious tone and Morgan Freeman as the president it had that

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_10]: maybe he should run against Trump yeah he's at least he's as old as Biden if I became American I'd vote

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_10]: for Morgan Freeman exactly who wouldn't he's God and he's the president yeah uh a very young Elijah

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_10]: would it's great and Robert DeVall is the anchor as the younger cast and I believe John Favreau is also

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_10]: winner mm finally honorable mention to what people consider the best space movie of all time space balls

[00:47:11] [SPEAKER_10]: 2001 Space Odyssey yes 1968 don't get me wrong I enjoyed most of the film it was just way too long

[00:47:21] [SPEAKER_10]: and got confusing at the end that seems to happen to me a lot open the pod today doors how

[00:47:26] [SPEAKER_10]: yes no I'm okay with that part it's the last 30 minutes of you know the the the skycam over the

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_10]: mountains and like what the hell is this about like I have no idea they lost me at the end but

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_10]: anyway still if 1968 it was definitely ahead of its time if somebody can explain the ending

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_10]: to me I might enjoy it better all stick star wars nice doesn't get any better than that worth the wait

[00:47:54] [SPEAKER_10]: yeah three long weeks temperature rising

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_07]: addition blurring rage taking over

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_08]: me

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_08]: well my sweet feet reach

[00:48:28] [SPEAKER_08]: all right my reach this week is when Bryce and I went to our double feature the other day

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_08]: every single fucking trailer that came out made me want to either slip my throat or punch myself in

[00:48:53] [SPEAKER_08]: the face or kill the person next to me they're either sequels or reboots or crapola but what

[00:49:03] [SPEAKER_08]: was the thing that the thing that put me over the edge was this new trend in in trailers

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_08]: and of all the trailers that we watched in front of the two movies that we saw there was only one

[00:49:17] [SPEAKER_08]: that I thought was a good trailer I don't even remember what it was now but I went that's how

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_08]: you write a trailer actually I think it might have been the was it the M night shot because I

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_08]: think I turned to you know I'm a ding dong yeah the shaman llama down one wasn't that the one

[00:49:30] [SPEAKER_04]: I said it was a good trailer I hope not because that's my rage this week oh okay so there was

[00:49:35] [SPEAKER_08]: a balance anyway of all so we watched I don't know they play like 10 trailers in front of each movie

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_08]: and of all those trailers 10 times two of the 20 trailers that we watched only one was a good

[00:49:51] [SPEAKER_08]: trailer because they we basically don't have to see the movies you've seen everything in the

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_08]: movie in these fucking trailers yeah so it's like what are you doing Hollywood like how is this

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_08]: how are people wanting to go see no wonder ones no one's going to the movies because they'd be like

[00:50:07] [SPEAKER_08]: oh I just saw that trailer and it pretty much spells out everything that's gonna happen in this movie

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_04]: people's attention span these days two minute and a half yeah but all they can handle yeah but

[00:50:15] [SPEAKER_08]: so why don't they just throw instead of making like just make the trailer throw it up on tiktok

[00:50:20] [SPEAKER_08]: or on you the youtube and then just and then as people watch that and they get so many

[00:50:24] [SPEAKER_08]: likes or clicks or commercial ads from other commercials or other trailers

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_08]: that get paid that pay them the trailer so they don't have to invest all that money in the movie

[00:50:34] [SPEAKER_08]: just make a fucking trailer and then have that because we've already seen the whole movie

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_08]: we already know everything that's gonna happen and these that's the one that really blew my

[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_08]: gasket was that stupid fucking rom-com that we're now gonna have to watch oh

[00:50:48] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't remember what it was called Blake lively one oh it's so it's so the trailer is so horrible

[00:50:55] [SPEAKER_07]: it only took 15 seconds and then everything changed it's like oh my god this movie we've already seen

[00:51:03] [SPEAKER_10]: the whole movie getting a little tired of the one for twisters too oh twins

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_04]: at least it doesn't really give anything away whatever doesn't it really I don't know what the plot is

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_08]: I have no idea what it is they chase tornadoes they've got the lady who used to chase twisters

[00:51:21] [SPEAKER_08]: and now she doesn't chase twisters and then she sees this

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_08]: it's not given a it's not given like major plot points anyway she yes and then she hooks up with the

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_08]: dude that that's in love with himself that wears a t-shirt of himself and then the repulsive and

[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_08]: completely doubted what's his face who's in everything now and then they hook up together

[00:51:41] [SPEAKER_08]: they end up falling in love and then they chase they chased twisters together twins it's exactly

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_08]: what happens in the movie and then and then someone's someone's gonna die from the cast not the two

[00:51:52] [SPEAKER_08]: lovebirds and then it's gonna end and then there's gonna be twisterers because they'll be the

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_04]: ass see you're you're filling in a lot of blanks that aren't in the trailer it's pretty implied

[00:52:03] [SPEAKER_04]: from the whole movie all it says remember it's gonna be garbage but it is the trailer's fine

[00:52:08] [SPEAKER_04]: I was like the only thing coming out this weekend actually in my defense every time the trailer

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_04]: comes on I tend not to pay attention at all either because that's not a good sign I have no I

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_10]: I don't want to see this remember the old days before the internet at when you make a 30 second

[00:52:24] [SPEAKER_10]: ad on tv maybe yeah for a movie you actually have to read the newspaper you know that's the thing

[00:52:30] [SPEAKER_10]: that's printed on paper yes and read the description of a movie and decide if you're gonna see it

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_10]: based on the subtext yes that wasn't that long ago in space no one can hear you scream

[00:52:40] [SPEAKER_04]: like the 80s I didn't do that I just went to everything I know you went to everything but I

[00:52:44] [SPEAKER_10]: we had one theater one screen so we didn't have a lot of choice but yeah

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_10]: anyway yeah no I long for those days yeah so they give way too much crap stop

[00:52:53] [SPEAKER_10]: fucking doing those terrible trailers that's my stop giving spoilers yeah okay that's it

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_10]: all right then you stole my rage sorda sorda twins twins

[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_04]: all right you can just say ditto what beer was more specific yeah my my rage is actually the

[00:53:23] [SPEAKER_04]: trailer for m night channel and trap because do we really need to know that josh heart knit

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_04]: is the serial killer that everybody's hunting down that's like can we not go into this

[00:53:37] [SPEAKER_10]: the only the concert yes I thought it was that josh heart I thought it was Jason Ritter

[00:53:41] [SPEAKER_04]: no oh yeah I swear I thought it was Jason Ritter this trailer starts they're going to a concert

[00:53:47] [SPEAKER_04]: father and her dad and oh blah blah and so then and then they go oh I'm gonna go to the bathroom

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_04]: and then they literally show him in the bathroom look on his phone yeah looking at his basement

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_04]: with a camera from on his phone which apparently you can do I don't understand this technology

[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_04]: and there's a guy try and then you see the evil look in his eye and then they literally

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_04]: literally even turn the camera like the uh the the screen read with him with him

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_04]: with this evil smile and like it's just so dumb like thing did they really need to give all of

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_04]: this away in the trailer you know but here's the thing we once again just like just like Oz Perkins

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_04]: with the nick cage thing you didn't need to give that away this one you didn't need m night

[00:54:33] [SPEAKER_04]: chamomile's name is big enough that he's gonna get ticket sales you don't need to give that away

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't understand why you're giving stuff away that you just don't need to do

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_04]: because it would be it would make the movie more enjoyable if you don't know it going in

[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_08]: but here's the thing okay so I I'm not disagreeing with you but when we see the m night chamomile

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_08]: movie my guess is that we also know that he's the killer at the very beginning of the movie maybe

[00:55:00] [SPEAKER_08]: and then they haven't really given anything away there we just know that Josh you know he's gonna

[00:55:04] [SPEAKER_10]: try to throw a twist in there we'll see while there's if they don't get me wrong I know

[00:55:08] [SPEAKER_09]: what twist is coming maybe it's the daughter daughter would be a great I know I know the

[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_04]: daughter's the killer I know there's twists coming because it's a nice shambler

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_04]: but they didn't even need to give that away though like it's just the fact that they give too much

[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_04]: away in the trailers like almost every time and it's just annoying and this one just annoyed me more

[00:55:28] [SPEAKER_04]: yeah the other ones you're talking about I don't really give a crap because who cares if the

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_04]: Blake lively romantic well it's not even a romance it's you know it's like the way

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_10]: that uh that she's gonna get three weight pretty sure has to do with the with the spousal

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_08]: views yeah well it's a spousal Bruce but blues but it's also like uh she's in love with this dude

[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_08]: but she's married to the other dude she's like past lives it's exactly like past lives it is

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_06]: nothing like past lives with the penetration it's got it's got this it's got twice as much

[00:56:00] [SPEAKER_06]: penetration as as for us lives because she's got there's your right there and then no that's

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_08]: touch you're confusing the movie no no the trailer for it tells us that she's gonna get no this is

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_03]: much double penetration as guys here you just you're making you're taking over my raging in

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_04]: just just let's get out of this segment okay well do you want to have a closing statement

[00:56:37] [SPEAKER_07]: no just do it just done

[00:56:39] [SPEAKER_08]: whoa so murr murr wasn't here uh the last few weeks and he didn't know that Sydney Poitier

[00:56:50] [SPEAKER_08]: is on our mesmerized list already was no he's not so did price price thought he was on our

[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_08]: list too but for whatever reason we hadn't added him i believe i had a matchup with Catherine

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Hepburn coming up and we'll see how this works well yeah so okay so this is a tough movie

[00:57:08] [SPEAKER_04]: this is because i'm i'm sorry but i'm i was at the point where i'm trying to decide who's more

[00:57:14] [SPEAKER_04]: mesmerizing between Catherine Hepburn and Sydney Poitier then all of a sudden Cecile Kelleway

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_04]: comes on as a mon senior and i'm like oh my god he's just amazing and then uh don't forget Stacy

[00:57:27] [SPEAKER_04]: well no how about Tilly isabel sanford weezy yeah is yeah and she is the best that she's ever been

[00:57:36] [SPEAKER_04]: ever yeah she is so good it is but Spencer Tracy is and Spencer Tracy was good okay so here's

[00:57:43] [SPEAKER_08]: how i broke it down so we know we're honest now we don't need to write shit down so my okay so i

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_08]: had to look at everybody against everybody else because i had to rewatch this twice i have a feeling

[00:57:55] [SPEAKER_08]: no matter what happens we're not going to lose anybody because this is an acting tour to force

[00:58:00] [SPEAKER_08]: this is an acting tour to force but what i caught what i got to was that i felt Spencer Tracy beat

[00:58:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Sydney Poitier but i felt that Catherine Hepburn beat out Spencer Tracy that's how i felt

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_08]: what do you feel oh dear lord so to me it was it was Catherine Hepburn because i felt she

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_08]: took out Spencer Tracy by a nose by like like basically when you do those horse things where

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_08]: they go across and then there's a what is that called when there's like a nose that a nose hair that

[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_08]: beats other one it's just a nose they won't buy a nose oh it's something like a photo finish or

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_08]: something oh that's it it's a photo finish oh yeah it was a photo finished for me like it was photo

[00:58:39] [SPEAKER_08]: finished when it's ahead though if i watch this again i might feel differently quarter length

[00:58:43] [SPEAKER_08]: sometimes they make it a photo finish there you go yeah so that's how i felt i felt Catherine

[00:58:49] [SPEAKER_08]: Hepburn you got Kate i did have Katie yeah um because if you pick anybody but Katie yeah i know i

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_04]: understand that Sydney is still alive yeah i know and see this is not easy it's only not easy

[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_04]: because i also picked Kate and i don't want Sydney to be gone Catherine Hepburn sorry Sydney

[00:59:22] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah you know this was a tough like but but here's seriously Cecil Kalloway as the mon

[00:59:28] [SPEAKER_04]: senior was so good he was but he wasn't even i don't understand five minutes so i would say

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_04]: he was yeah he wasn't i timed him okay but i i actually thought Spencer Tracy was just okay

[00:59:38] [SPEAKER_04]: i i thought he i thought Sydney Poitier was better than Spencer Tracy now having said that i'm

[00:59:43] [SPEAKER_04]: like we're we're doing degrees of brilliance here so when i say he's better than i'm not saying

[00:59:48] [SPEAKER_04]: that Spencer Tracy's performance was not good i'm saying it was excellent oh this was like a

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_08]: tour to for this was like the absolute best actors in Hollywood and honestly Isabella

[00:59:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Isabelle Sanford was so good she was so good in this like just the look on her when it came

[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_04]: when she comes in and says you got it you know we've got another one for dinner and just a look

[01:00:09] [SPEAKER_04]: on her face was just priceless you didn't even have to say anything it's it's such a it's such a good

[01:00:14] [SPEAKER_08]: movie but you know here's the thing about the times when this movie came out guess who's coming to

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_08]: dinner yes it it was so risque that like they did not they did not kiss on the lips she kissed

[01:00:27] [SPEAKER_08]: him once on the cheek through the entire movie and i bet you that was enough scandal oh yeah

[01:00:32] [SPEAKER_10]: i'm sure that like oh man i was like and back then some states they actually it was illegal

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_10]: to have probably black and white person oh yeah they actually they literally bring that up in the

[01:00:45] [SPEAKER_10]: movie yeah it's actually illegal some of their southern states but it's it was it was this this

[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_08]: is a this is an excellent movie though yeah damn Sydney yeah you you hit Catherine Hepburn though so

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_10]: too many can outdo her in any movie so

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_08]: all right then all right so do you have anybody for us for next week the mer

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_08]: all right i haven't been doing that stuff yeah i've looked at your updated list

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_00]: all right well now we're gonna have to update it again so there you go last week on rage or dare

[01:01:26] [SPEAKER_00]: our little jimbo cradled his face into the warm bosom of yours truly and suckled at my

[01:01:32] [SPEAKER_00]: deliciously awful remake tatas and was rewarded with robocop 2014 this week the boys are back together

[01:01:41] [SPEAKER_00]: and can rage or dare or even Casey again well well jimbo can't go wrong with a second eat can he

[01:01:48] [SPEAKER_00]: maybe they will both get some well-deserved nuzzlin come on brice now let's see if jimbo's need

[01:01:54] [SPEAKER_00]: for the rage will be arrested this week in his viewing of a film which despite my love of the

[01:02:00] [SPEAKER_00]: work of Joel Kinneman gary oldman michael Keaton abby cornish jackie earl haley michael kenneth

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_00]: williams samuel l jackson and canadian treasurer evan stern i would definitely not buy this for a

[01:02:15] [SPEAKER_00]: dollar that's right none of these people make this film watchable at least to me let's see what jim

[01:02:21] [SPEAKER_10]: thinks jinnis star carl urban he doesn't mention him at all terribly intentionally not i like carl urban

[01:02:30] [SPEAKER_08]: so this movie is everything wrong with remakes every single thing that could possibly wrong

[01:02:38] [SPEAKER_08]: with remakes is this movie personified first off take an almost perfectly made sci-fi horror movie

[01:02:45] [SPEAKER_08]: in in the original and even to attempt to remake it is a crime against humanity secondly

[01:02:53] [SPEAKER_08]: it took all the great humor and tongue-in-cheek satire of the original and got rid of all of it

[01:02:59] [SPEAKER_08]: basically making it soulless and trying to take itself way too seriously and then thirdly just

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_08]: why why does this film exist it was bad enough that they made robocop 2 and 3

[01:03:13] [SPEAKER_08]: which took the films into the realm of bad taste in your mouth but to reboot it

[01:03:20] [SPEAKER_08]: it with completely nothing that's likable about this and yet it's super bloated as

[01:03:28] [SPEAKER_08]: kasey said with huge names like michael keaton and jake baricell and sammy jack and gary oldman

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_08]: and jackie earl hailey like why why did you agree to this travesty plus the whole time i'm watching it

[01:03:44] [SPEAKER_08]: i can't help but compare this to the original everything in this has no grit and seems like

[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_08]: it's way too sterile the story follows somewhat of a similar concept of the original except in

[01:03:56] [SPEAKER_08]: this one he knows right away that he has a wife when he wakes up plus it's emotionless and

[01:04:02] [SPEAKER_08]: really don't get connected to the lead character like you do in the original so for me at least i'm

[01:04:09] [SPEAKER_08]: just like can't wait till this gets to the end of this film it's everything i hate about hollywood

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_08]: and paul verhoban if he was dead would be rolling over in his grave if he actually had to watch this

[01:04:23] [SPEAKER_08]: movie he probably would just end up dying he would have died right there he would have

[01:04:30] [SPEAKER_08]: rolled over it was so awful i hated every single thing about this film it's completely and and i'd

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_08]: love all these actors but this movie is completely unwatchable oh plus the film just kept lord of the

[01:04:44] [SPEAKER_08]: rings itself to death it was like there was so many fucking endings to this movie it was just

[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_08]: completely horrible i hated every single thing about it kasey you knocked it out of the park

[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_04]: with this it's it's awful by the way carl urban was not in it i thought who is the robacock

[01:04:59] [SPEAKER_10]: joel kineman yeah i'm gonna miss me seeing a judge right then i thought he was

[01:05:03] [SPEAKER_10]: i don't know i didn't see the one of them well count yourself lucky both were the helmet over their

[01:05:09] [SPEAKER_10]: head i don't know and they never once said i could buy that i would didn't they no plus there's no red

[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_04]: formin in it no exactly but he was in a cool black robo cop outfit whatever yeah they had the black

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_08]: robo cop instead they had to have to have made him a black robo cop they should have they had

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_08]: in a black robo cop outfit i would have been better they had the head 243 in there or whatever

[01:05:32] [SPEAKER_08]: it's called it's just terrible it's i don't even want to talk about anymore but what i do want to

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_08]: talk about before we close today is that our beloved david yes finally reached out to me

[01:05:45] [SPEAKER_08]: so we are not going to be drawing from anybody's bag this week the david has dared us to see the

[01:05:52] [SPEAKER_08]: two thousand i don't know who david is david is our only listener okay are you making this up right

[01:05:58] [SPEAKER_04]: now no so david actually dared us to see something yes remember remember three week three or four

[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_08]: weeks ago i don't remember three or four days ago david bought us a movie rental and then i reached

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_08]: out to him i remember that and he did not and he did not give it to me but he reached out to

[01:06:15] [SPEAKER_08]: me this week and he said i have a movie you guys need to see okay i remember that and we're

[01:06:20] [SPEAKER_08]: going to be watching untamed from 2016 what the hell's untamed okay so just just so you know

[01:06:30] [SPEAKER_08]: are you ready for this not really remember how we talked about um remember how we talked about

[01:06:37] [SPEAKER_08]: the co-production of iceland and um the uk yeah so this movie is a co-production of Mexico

[01:06:47] [SPEAKER_08]: Denmark France Germany Norway and Switzerland well it sounds like it's good right i know i'm

[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_08]: curious david if you if you know how this this will make us rage the other thing that this has

[01:07:01] [SPEAKER_08]: going for it is when you have the keyword plot details uh-huh this is what you get female frontal

[01:07:10] [SPEAKER_08]: nudity female pubic hair human alien sex tentacle sex and then women in showers plus there's 270 other

[01:07:21] [SPEAKER_08]: keywords that describe yeah i haven't i haven't seen this i'm actually really looking for as am i i'm

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_08]: sure glad david dared us to see this a couple in the troubled marriage locate a meteorite

[01:07:34] [SPEAKER_04]: initiating an encounter with a mysterious creature doesn't this sound like the greatest

[01:07:38] [SPEAKER_04]: movie that's ever been made discovery the creature which is a source of both and then

[01:07:43] [SPEAKER_04]: there's no more pleasure and destruction it's a but the creature is a source of pleasure

[01:07:49] [SPEAKER_04]: and destruction it sounds like the greatest movie that's ever been i'm sorry this is this is

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_04]: this is this part this is already my favorite movie of all time and i haven't even seen it

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_04]: well thanks david it's a mexican science fiction horror film apparently i i don't understand

[01:08:07] [SPEAKER_10]: sorry it's mexican but it has like 10 different countries yep because they all said this sounds

[01:08:12] [SPEAKER_04]: awesome let's get on board let's get on board it played tiff i mean no yes really yep and fantastic

[01:08:21] [SPEAKER_08]: fest so i don't understand but bring it on you know what here's my thought david our only true listener

[01:08:29] [SPEAKER_08]: decided he loves us so much he doesn't want to punish us with a rage maybe maybe maybe i'm

[01:08:35] [SPEAKER_04]: i'm looking forward to this you know what usually i get angry when people give me stuff that i'm gonna

[01:08:41] [SPEAKER_04]: like but this time i don't think i was ever gonna see this except for the the fact that it's been

[01:08:46] [SPEAKER_04]: david found that he dared us to watch this so i am very excited all right all right then

[01:08:53] [SPEAKER_08]: you have that to look forward to next week well thanks ragers for listening thanks the extended

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