Episode 251 - Not Subtle Homage Original Horror

[00:00:04] It's time to feel the rage.

[00:00:08] Welcome to Film Rage where we talk movies, in theaters, streaming and classic films as

[00:00:19] well.

[00:00:21] Directors and actors beware as you cannot hide from the rage.

[00:00:28] My name is Bryce and I am part of the Film Rage crew.

[00:00:33] Which also includes Jim.

[00:00:35] Hello Jim.

[00:00:37] Hey!

[00:00:38] Hey Bryce!

[00:00:42] And also we have the Merman.

[00:00:44] And today the Merman is sporting an animal shirt.

[00:00:48] It's my spirit animal.

[00:00:50] Nice.

[00:00:51] What is that?

[00:00:52] Oh it's an animal!

[00:00:54] Funnily enough, is funnily a word?

[00:00:58] It is now!

[00:00:59] I just watched the new Jim Henson documentary.

[00:01:02] I did, on Disney Plus.

[00:01:06] Evil.

[00:01:07] Pure evil.

[00:01:08] It is pure evil.

[00:01:09] Disney Plus.

[00:01:10] Pure evil.

[00:01:11] Pure evil.

[00:01:12] It's called the Jim Henson idea man.

[00:01:15] Yes.

[00:01:16] I mean it's about Jim Henson so it was good.

[00:01:18] Didn't you see that last year for screening for a film festival?

[00:01:21] No that was Mr. Grasshopper.

[00:01:22] Oh I didn't see it.

[00:01:23] Gotcha.

[00:01:24] It was at the festival I didn't watch it.

[00:01:25] We did.

[00:01:27] We have our own documentary now.

[00:01:28] That's right.

[00:01:29] Like what the hell is going on?

[00:01:30] I don't have a documentary.

[00:01:31] Jim Henson idea man.

[00:01:33] You should check it out.

[00:01:35] I think you'd like it.

[00:01:36] Um yeah so with the introductions out of the way, let's rage on.

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[00:02:21] and dare us to see a terrible film.

[00:02:25] Here's a hint that may happen later today in the podcast.

[00:02:30] But that movie must have played in a cinema somewhere in the world and it must not be

[00:02:38] a children's movie.

[00:02:40] Right.

[00:02:41] Now.

[00:02:42] You guys took so long the sirens came out.

[00:02:44] Now let's get to raging.

[00:02:47] Uh.

[00:02:48] Yeah.

[00:02:49] So I wore my animal shirt and you two were on volume.

[00:02:54] I don't know what's happening there.

[00:02:57] Ha.

[00:03:01] Ah.

[00:03:08] Now we predict what amazing men predict.

[00:03:11] Will he predict the mundo?

[00:03:15] Will he tell us all what Jim and Bryson like the movies?

[00:03:19] And come swimming to you.

[00:03:23] Swim Marie swim Marie.

[00:03:27] Swim Marie swim Marie.

[00:03:30] Swim Marie?

[00:03:31] Swim swimming to you.

[00:03:33] He needs more drugs to be that excited.

[00:03:36] Oh yeah.

[00:03:40] Okay.

[00:03:41] So you guys went to see two movies.

[00:03:44] Yes.

[00:03:45] One of them I'm pretty damn sure you already saw.

[00:03:48] Yes.

[00:03:49] But whatevs.

[00:03:50] So first one's called Ezra which when I saw the trailer I'm like hey Maya might

[00:03:56] have actually gotten to see that one.

[00:03:57] What?

[00:03:58] If I had known about it.

[00:03:59] Because when I left you guys were talking about other movies that I didn't want

[00:04:03] to see.

[00:04:05] And then didn't come out.

[00:04:06] So I'm sorry I missed that one because I had a few people I liked in it.

[00:04:09] There you go.

[00:04:10] Whatevs.

[00:04:11] Bobby De Niro.

[00:04:13] Bobby hates Trump De Niro.

[00:04:16] Yeah so it looked like a feel good type movie and a lot of inspirational stuff

[00:04:24] and autistic kid on a road trip with his comic dad.

[00:04:29] Yeah yeah.

[00:04:30] That's you pretty much said it.

[00:04:32] I think I would have loved it.

[00:04:34] I think you guys maybe just didn't quite give it a mondo.

[00:04:39] So let's go Double Man.

[00:04:41] Double Man.

[00:04:42] Double Man.

[00:04:43] Double Man.

[00:04:44] Next one I feel like you guys lobbed me a softball.

[00:04:47] It was a little bit of a softball.

[00:04:49] In A Violent Nature which was at Cuff I was there with you.

[00:04:53] I saw at least half of it and I've heard you guys talk about it repeatedly.

[00:04:59] So yeah double mondo.

[00:05:01] I think we even put it on your list when we were discussing Cuff.

[00:05:04] I think it made our best of the festival.

[00:05:06] I think it did.

[00:05:07] So just on a hunch maybe double mondo.

[00:05:12] It's a little more than a hunch.

[00:05:14] I think you might be right there.

[00:05:15] I'm at least half right this week.

[00:05:18] You might be 100% right.

[00:05:19] You might be 100% right.

[00:05:20] Who knows?

[00:05:21] Only time will tell.

[00:05:22] You know what?

[00:05:23] We're going to find out almost, you could be 75% after we hear from Bryce.

[00:05:28] You know what?

[00:05:29] I don't even think I need to do an introduction for the movie because Merman pretty much summed

[00:05:33] it up.

[00:05:34] Do it anyway.

[00:05:35] Yeah, do it anyway.

[00:05:36] I saw two minutes of it.

[00:05:38] You saw all of it.

[00:05:39] That's Murray's impression based on the trailer.

[00:05:41] Yes.

[00:05:42] So what actually happened in this movie Bryce?

[00:05:46] Exactly what Murray said.

[00:05:47] No.

[00:05:48] There was more left out.

[00:05:50] Yeah there was.

[00:05:51] Was there?

[00:05:52] A lot more.

[00:05:53] No there wasn't.

[00:05:54] That was pretty much it.

[00:05:55] I know Whoopi is in it.

[00:05:56] Whoopi?

[00:05:57] For how long?

[00:05:58] I don't know but she was in the trailer.

[00:05:59] Just enough Whoopi to make me go Whoopi.

[00:06:03] Whoopi.

[00:06:04] Did Jimmy Kimmel show up because I would have remembered seeing him.

[00:06:07] Jimmy Kimmel did show up.

[00:06:09] But not until very, very late.

[00:06:13] Did he play himself?

[00:06:14] Yes.

[00:06:15] He played himself.

[00:06:16] So he wasn't active.

[00:06:17] But he wasn't, yeah he wasn't in it, in it.

[00:06:21] He was a closing credits guy.

[00:06:23] Well Bryce tell him why Jimmy Kimmel should be in it.

[00:06:27] Because Murray didn't explain that.

[00:06:29] Why should Jimmy Kimmel be in it?

[00:06:31] Yeah like what was the reason?

[00:06:32] Like he was playing the plot for the two minutes that I saw?

[00:06:34] Yeah.

[00:06:35] Well I think Murray probably knows.

[00:06:37] Yeah I know but these people may not have seen it.

[00:06:40] That's right.

[00:06:41] Well that's why, but no, but you know.

[00:06:43] So go expand on your introduction.

[00:06:46] I'll just wing it.

[00:06:48] Okay.

[00:06:49] No I'm kidding.

[00:06:50] What was it about?

[00:06:51] Go!

[00:06:52] So Jimmy Kinevel, he was in a bunch of stuff I don't remember.

[00:06:55] But plays a nightclub comic.

[00:06:57] Yes.

[00:06:58] And Whoopi Goldberg calls him up and says hey Jimmy Kimmel wants you.

[00:07:00] So I would make him probably his agent?

[00:07:02] Yeah.

[00:07:03] At the same time he's dealing with an autistic son.

[00:07:06] Yes.

[00:07:07] I'm guessing some kind of parental separation slash divorce proceedings.

[00:07:12] One hundred percent so far.

[00:07:14] And I think De Niro plays his dad.

[00:07:16] Yes!

[00:07:17] And they go on a road trip.

[00:07:18] He basically steals his dad's car.

[00:07:20] Yeah no!

[00:07:21] Well he does.

[00:07:22] He probably kidnaps the kid too, I don't know.

[00:07:24] Yes!

[00:07:25] And they go cross country with the kid and they have all kinds of adventures.

[00:07:28] That was the two minutes that I saw.

[00:07:30] There we go.

[00:07:31] But why are they going across country?

[00:07:32] Ah well he already said.

[00:07:33] No he didn't say why.

[00:07:34] Yes he did say.

[00:07:35] He just said that he might.

[00:07:36] He already alluded to this Whoopi.

[00:07:37] I assume they were headed to LA where Jimmy Kimmel shoots his shot.

[00:07:41] That's why he went.

[00:07:42] There we go.

[00:07:43] But it never really comes across in the trailer that he actually got booked by Kimmel.

[00:07:47] So now I just have to give my rating.

[00:07:48] I don't know if he was just going to show up at the studio and say, here I am.

[00:07:53] Because you think you would have a certain date you'd have to be there by but you're

[00:07:57] driving across country with your car so.

[00:07:59] Honestly you've nailed it.

[00:08:01] Like that's exactly what the movie is about.

[00:08:03] And that was the two minutes that I saw.

[00:08:04] You saw the trailer and that tells you the whole movie.

[00:08:06] The whole movie.

[00:08:07] So that's in itself is a problem.

[00:08:11] Very well acted movie.

[00:08:12] Like everybody in it.

[00:08:15] Almost.

[00:08:16] Almost was spot on.

[00:08:18] Bobby Cannavale.

[00:08:19] I mean you don't see enough of him to be honest.

[00:08:22] I enjoy his performance almost every time.

[00:08:24] Rose Byrne was good.

[00:08:25] She was a little overshadowed by other people.

[00:08:28] Rose Byrne.

[00:08:29] She's very Rose Byrne.

[00:08:30] She's very Rose Byrne.

[00:08:31] She's always solid.

[00:08:32] But Vera Farmiga had a little role in it and she was tremendous.

[00:08:34] Rainn Wilson just knocked it out of the park.

[00:08:38] And Robert De Niro is as good as he has been in.

[00:08:43] Recent memory.

[00:08:44] He's a taxi driver.

[00:08:45] Well maybe not that long.

[00:08:47] It's been decades.

[00:08:48] What did you call it?

[00:08:49] You guys liked him in that didn't you?

[00:08:51] What did you call it?

[00:08:52] The Oppenheimer thing.

[00:08:53] He wasn't in that.

[00:08:54] No.

[00:08:55] That's a different Robert.

[00:08:56] No I thought De Niro was in it.

[00:08:57] Robert Downey.

[00:08:58] Oh sorry he was in the other one.

[00:09:00] The one about killing the flowers.

[00:09:01] Oh yeah.

[00:09:02] Killers of the flower man.

[00:09:03] Where he was terrible.

[00:09:04] Nah he was okay in it.

[00:09:07] But this was the best he's been in forever.

[00:09:09] There's too many Roberts apparently.

[00:09:11] Yeah it's very confusing.

[00:09:12] That's why he calls himself Bob.

[00:09:14] Yeah there you go.

[00:09:16] At any rate performances were really...

[00:09:19] This is one of those odd movies where it's heart is in the right place.

[00:09:23] The message is fine.

[00:09:25] Even the situations are good.

[00:09:30] The whole structure of the movie is good.

[00:09:34] The journey he takes is good.

[00:09:38] There's only one problem.

[00:09:41] The writing is not good.

[00:09:45] These actors did everything they could with the material they were given.

[00:09:50] And at the end of the day it just wasn't a very well written film.

[00:09:55] Really well acted.

[00:09:57] I like the journey that he took.

[00:09:58] I like the fact that we got to observe this and we weren't really being told

[00:10:05] what to think at any time.

[00:10:07] We're observing how...

[00:10:08] I mean most of the time you'd be thinking man this guy is a prick and other times

[00:10:12] it's like man this guy is just doing the best he can.

[00:10:16] And you're arguing with yourself as you're watching do I like this guy?

[00:10:19] Do I not like this guy?

[00:10:20] And they're not force feeding anything down your throat.

[00:10:24] Same with his father.

[00:10:25] Same with how his mother acts.

[00:10:27] There's a reason why they're doing everything they're doing and it makes sense.

[00:10:32] The problem is the writing just isn't up to the concept.

[00:10:38] I liked the movie.

[00:10:39] I did.

[00:10:40] I thought it could have been a great movie and it wasn't.

[00:10:46] So it was meh.

[00:10:47] Yeah.

[00:10:48] You know it makes me think when you said that specifically around that concept of

[00:10:53] not feeding you and I agree.

[00:10:56] I mean I'll tell you what I think more in detail but in contrast to that a heavy

[00:11:01] subject not similar in any way but a teacher's lounge.

[00:11:07] That same thing didn't force feed you.

[00:11:10] But the writing was so good and that's the difference between it.

[00:11:14] I mean teachers lounges in a comedy and you know there's so many things that are

[00:11:17] not different around but as far as not force feeding you any agenda and you

[00:11:24] compare those two movies which are not alike in any way but the idea of

[00:11:29] that you have to conceptualize and feel what everybody's feeling around

[00:11:33] you through the movie.

[00:11:34] And I'm good this isn't a spoiler per se but there's one thing in the

[00:11:38] movie that I think should have had me bawling by the end and it didn't.

[00:11:44] And it's the fact that this father what he wants more than anything in the

[00:11:50] world is to hug his son like that's all he wants.

[00:11:55] Almost more than anything in the world.

[00:11:57] He just wants to be able to hug his son and his son won't let.

[00:12:00] And then when that finally happens that should I should have been like

[00:12:03] just water works.

[00:12:05] Yeah but it wasn't there like the emotion wasn't there because the

[00:12:08] writing wasn't there.

[00:12:09] Yeah of course.

[00:12:11] But that should have been like like even me talking about it now is

[00:12:14] getting me emotional and I didn't write the movie.

[00:12:17] I'm not emotional at all hearing you talk about it.

[00:12:20] And I went to your point I wasn't.

[00:12:22] But you should have been.

[00:12:23] Yes that should have been the this way the whole thing was leading

[00:12:27] towards should have been that embrace where and it happens in kind of a

[00:12:31] weird situation and it's kind of it was kind of OK but it should have had

[00:12:35] me more emotionally invested.

[00:12:37] Yeah and that's why I almost want to give this a rage but I can't because

[00:12:43] there's too much good in it.

[00:12:44] Yeah so it's a man.

[00:12:46] OK I'm done.

[00:12:47] All right well Bobby canna Valley and Robert slash Bobby slash Bob

[00:12:54] slash Buh De Niro they got chemistry yo they do actually.

[00:13:00] In fact De Niro as you've already mentioned is probably the best he's been

[00:13:04] in years and I'm going to say as far back as tax.

[00:13:07] Well fair enough.

[00:13:08] In fact the whole couple of casino and mobster yeah I was not even close.

[00:13:15] This performance was dialing it in.

[00:13:16] He was on fire in this performance.

[00:13:19] In fact like you said the entire cast was so well-acted.

[00:13:23] They deserve better.

[00:13:24] Well almost all great.

[00:13:27] You know what I say about American kid actors.

[00:13:30] Nothing need more be said.

[00:13:31] I don't want to I don't want to say too much but everybody in this film was

[00:13:36] really good except for one.

[00:13:38] This film had a heavy concept tied around a comic with anger issues with

[00:13:45] a failed marriage and is a complete idiot but one who is fighting and I'm

[00:13:50] putting this in heavy quotes for his son's something or other.

[00:13:55] Yeah I don't know like he's always fighting for something.

[00:13:57] Well that's it.

[00:13:58] That's his thing though.

[00:13:59] He's always fighting or at least protecting him from doctors and want to

[00:14:04] over prescribe drugs and want to put him in schools that will be with other

[00:14:08] kids also on the spectrum that could possibly actually be good for the kid.

[00:14:13] Be good and that's the whole thing is you get why he's doing it but you

[00:14:16] don't really agree with why he's doing it.

[00:14:19] Yeah exactly.

[00:14:20] Some of the ways the Bobby Canna Valley's character is portrayed is a

[00:14:24] little not believable at times.

[00:14:27] Yes parents that stand up for their kids are awesome but this made him look

[00:14:31] crazy and yes that's what it probably wants us to think.

[00:14:36] But there is and is not sorry any real backup to his character to all of a

[00:14:43] sudden be super over the top on things.

[00:14:46] This is a road movie.

[00:14:48] Well actually a double road movie.

[00:14:50] Double Road.

[00:14:51] And totally no my dislike of single road movies so a double road.

[00:14:59] Whatever road.

[00:15:00] The car.

[00:15:01] But the concept of this film is Kumar great.

[00:15:04] Yeah road trip great euro trip road euro trip great finger got.

[00:15:12] Freddy got fingered great.

[00:15:14] Yeah sorry go ahead.

[00:15:17] Yeah what was I saying.

[00:15:18] Oh yeah.

[00:15:19] So yeah the concept of this film is really good but ultimately the

[00:15:24] delivery was done in conveniences and happenstances which always annoy me

[00:15:30] about lazy writing trying to force things into a fit just to get to an

[00:15:37] end that they want to get a result from.

[00:15:39] And although I think they did a good job not giving you the vision of one

[00:15:46] side or the other they just allowed things to happen but I think it was it

[00:15:50] wasn't enough clarity through a lot of it that the writing did show it was

[00:15:54] lacking on top of that everything seems to be half developed.

[00:15:59] But I did like a little of the humor and as much as I didn't love the

[00:16:05] writing the acting was what saved a lot of this for me as well.

[00:16:08] Otherwise it would be a complete rage.

[00:16:11] I didn't hate it.

[00:16:12] I like the original idea that it was trying to say but I didn't love this

[00:16:17] movie because their writing was terrible.

[00:16:19] So it was a man too.

[00:16:20] It was a man.

[00:16:21] Double man.

[00:16:22] I almost went double Mondo on that one.

[00:16:24] Good thing you didn't.

[00:16:25] I changed my mind.

[00:16:32] Tidbits for you guys.

[00:16:33] Yeah I love my useless I love tidbits.

[00:16:36] Bobby Canna Valley and Rose Byrne apparently are a couple.

[00:16:40] Nice.

[00:16:41] A couple of what?

[00:16:42] They're dating each other since 2012.

[00:16:45] That's why they had chemistry.

[00:16:46] I don't know if they're married and Tony Goldwyn who directed it as well

[00:16:53] as being in it.

[00:16:54] Yes.

[00:16:54] This is also in Ghost with Whoopi.

[00:16:58] What?

[00:16:58] There's so much.

[00:16:59] He got to direct Whoopi.

[00:17:01] What?

[00:17:02] This is crazy.

[00:17:03] This is crazy.

[00:17:06] So remember the line that Bobby DeRio says that come on you remember.

[00:17:11] I can't say it.

[00:17:12] You can say it.

[00:17:13] I'll fill the words in for you.

[00:17:15] Was there swear words in it?

[00:17:16] Yeah.

[00:17:17] There's a swear word.

[00:17:18] Then Bryce won't say it.

[00:17:19] Yeah so.

[00:17:21] Say fudge.

[00:17:22] Yeah just say fudge and then I'll fill it in.

[00:17:25] I'm trying to remember the exact line.

[00:17:26] No no it's left me.

[00:17:29] You were basically saying it all.

[00:17:30] Or fiddlesticks.

[00:17:31] He's wanted fiddlesticks.

[00:17:33] So he basically says that there is something wrong with you because who cries as many

[00:17:40] times after fucking some strange.

[00:17:42] Oh yeah.

[00:17:43] Actually G just says who cries after bleeping a stranger.

[00:17:51] Nessie that was another scene that just didn't work like the DeNiro scene worked

[00:17:57] but before that it was like it didn't show anything.

[00:18:00] And I love that scene because he comes in and he offers to like make her some

[00:18:05] something to eat and everything she just wants to get the hell out of there.

[00:18:09] Like that whole scene was great.

[00:18:10] Scene before it not so much.

[00:18:12] It was just inconsistent.

[00:18:14] Yeah but yeah no there was there's a lot of good stuff in it.

[00:18:17] Most of it was DeNiro to be honest every time he was on the screen.

[00:18:20] Well I wouldn't say just DeNiro I would say the secondary characters.

[00:18:24] DeNiro was great the whole thing with Rainn Wilson was great.

[00:18:28] The whole Vera Farmiga the scenes with just her were great.

[00:18:32] I don't I didn't need the kids and all that other stuff that was going on.

[00:18:35] But she was very good.

[00:18:36] Yeah and Bobby both Bobbies were good like it was it was all a solid.

[00:18:42] Tony Goldwyn was good but he was never good.

[00:18:44] They were also in the Irishman together too.

[00:18:46] Yeah don't even remember any of those.

[00:18:48] The Bobbies.

[00:18:49] Yes Bobby Bobby kind of Al and Bobby DeNiro.

[00:18:52] Terrible piece of poop of a movie.

[00:18:54] Oh whatever that was a good movie.

[00:18:55] It was terrible.

[00:18:56] It was meh.

[00:18:57] It was awful.

[00:18:58] Halfway was good.

[00:19:00] You know what was you know what was good about it?

[00:19:02] That I don't ever have to watch it again.

[00:19:04] That's what was good about it.

[00:19:06] All right so we also went and saw in a violent nature.

[00:19:09] Why?

[00:19:10] Because we didn't get a full review of it on our podcast already.

[00:19:15] We just got to tell a little bit about it because we saw it before it came out in major

[00:19:21] release so now because we only had two movies to see this week we wanted to see it again.

[00:19:26] Okay.

[00:19:28] So we've now seen in a violent nature twice in the cinema.

[00:19:33] I'm guessing the theater wasn't as packed as it was the first time.

[00:19:35] No no it wasn't.

[00:19:38] But there was a few number of people for a late night Monday night movie.

[00:19:42] There was some people.

[00:19:43] It was pretty good.

[00:19:45] So imagine a director and a production team that loves the slasher genre so much

[00:19:53] and wants to do a new slasher that is 100% a ripoff of every other slasher

[00:19:59] that has ever been before it.

[00:20:01] But with a twist.

[00:20:02] But at the same time make it with the killer's perspective

[00:20:07] but not like in a hardcore Henry like perspective but like a guardian angel

[00:20:13] that hangs over the killer and we just follow him around.

[00:20:17] Yeah we walked really slow.

[00:20:20] We the viewer.

[00:20:21] It's so good.

[00:20:22] Are the guardian angel.

[00:20:23] He never runs once that I saw.

[00:20:25] No why would he run?

[00:20:26] He doesn't he steps fast a couple of times.

[00:20:28] Yeah not too fast.

[00:20:29] Well there was a little bit of stepping.

[00:20:31] Young people who run twice as fast.

[00:20:34] But they fall and stuff happens.

[00:20:36] Because they're stupid.

[00:20:37] Plus you know they get tired and he doesn't get tired.

[00:20:40] He just keeps on going.

[00:20:41] He's not tired.

[00:20:42] He is focused my friend.

[00:20:44] Yeah sure.

[00:20:45] So now on top of that throw in some of the most creative kills like a wood slicer,

[00:20:51] a stab choppy scene that lasts what seems like hours

[00:20:54] and of course Namaste motherfuckers.

[00:20:59] The best yoga kill scene ever in a horror movie ever made.

[00:21:04] Where yes we get every trope from every slasher including annoying 30 year old teenagers,

[00:21:10] crafty old survivors and a supernatural killer that cannot be stopped.

[00:21:17] But made with so much love and care that this actually transcends homage

[00:21:26] and copy and creates its own genre of slasher film.

[00:21:32] I am now dubbing not subtle homage original horror.

[00:21:39] That is this genre.

[00:21:41] Not subtle homage original horror.

[00:21:44] Yes that is exactly what this genre is.

[00:21:48] It may be what it is but that's not very catchy Jim.

[00:21:50] I don't think that's going to catch on.

[00:21:52] Let's acronym that.

[00:21:53] N S H O H.

[00:21:56] N S H O H.

[00:22:00] Nisahoo.

[00:22:01] We could just go S H O H.

[00:22:05] Actually that's the one.

[00:22:06] Shuhu.

[00:22:09] It's a shuhu genre.

[00:22:13] Totes.

[00:22:13] Yeah but that's totally what it is because we don't get very often like there's too

[00:22:18] many people that try and trope things or try and do homage things and it just comes off as

[00:22:28] not as good as the originals.

[00:22:30] This to me was so much better than any like I'm standing on a stack of satanic

[00:22:36] bibles here when I say this is the best slasher film I have ever seen in my life

[00:22:42] and I've seen a lot of slasher.

[00:22:44] Slasher was never my favorite genre but the reason what this does right

[00:22:47] is the funny parts that we are supposed to get as inside jokes as a fan of the genre

[00:22:54] we get but at the same time you have this whole vision of who this guy is

[00:22:59] that is just over the top so I absolutely love this film.

[00:23:05] I'm not done yet.

[00:23:09] Now where was I because I loved it so much I'm just I'm too literally excited.

[00:23:15] Yeah so they made a film that might not in addition to me but maybe everybody else that sees this

[00:23:23] will also catch the same drift like I'm anxious to know what true slasher fans so I can't wait

[00:23:28] to hear more of what you have to say this.

[00:23:31] If I get to watch this every week for the rest of my life I may live a happy and long

[00:23:37] and fulfilling life which absolutely makes this film as a mondo.

[00:23:42] I have some things I want to unpack but they're more loves specifically about this film

[00:23:46] so now I want to know a true slasher genre lover that grew up with slasher as his

[00:23:54] his chosen horror film now it's not but before that was your genre right?

[00:24:00] Yeah yeah for the longest time I loved slasher movies anytime something got released

[00:24:05] it didn't matter how schlocky it was I was first in line to watch it

[00:24:10] um but this this movie is completely unique and it is a horror movie

[00:24:17] that has some horrific things in it but I will be the first to admit that it's not scary at all

[00:24:25] because there's no there's no jump scares there's no building tension or everything

[00:24:31] because you're literally standing behind the killer the entire time so you see everything

[00:24:37] coming from a mile away because you're standing behind the killer yeah you know what he's thinking

[00:24:43] and doing when you're watching and when you think of that you think well how could this be

[00:24:48] effective then because it does everything else so unbelievably well it has some pitch black humor

[00:24:57] in it that it's just so so so so funny um it's also kind of satiates our our blood lust

[00:25:06] you know oh yeah because every kill scene is it's amazing like every kill scene is memorable

[00:25:14] it doesn't matter if it's you know the head getting cut in half against the tree the

[00:25:20] yoga kill is like epic um the log splitter is epic and that scene I mean I know we saw the the uh

[00:25:29] the interview we actually had the Q&A with was the director was yeah yeah um and he actually said

[00:25:37] that they wanted to extend that that log splitter scene and actually cut off more parts

[00:25:42] they ran out of money but they ran out of money but that scene went on for quite a while

[00:25:47] more more than most most would do it's amazing how this movie can just take the camera

[00:25:55] set it on this scene it everything happened and nothing happens fast everything happens as it

[00:26:02] would happen yeah with this particular guy and it's all so good and it's amazing you

[00:26:11] every single time you know what's gonna happen yeah every single time and it's so

[00:26:17] yeah you just it you just know it's happening and you're just the anticipation of it happening

[00:26:22] but at the same time you're like what exactly is good like you know that she's gonna get

[00:26:28] killed from the yoga scene all right you know it but you have no idea how he's gonna do it

[00:26:33] and that's the other great thing about this movie is every kill is unique yes it's not just

[00:26:38] hacky-hack every time and it's completely unique yeah and each one is is somewhat over the top

[00:26:45] the thing that uh oh yeah i'm assuming this is mondo it is mondo um and it's a it's a horror

[00:26:52] movie too that it's it's it's pretty simple in its premise yeah and it's all around you

[00:26:59] know there's a necklace yep he wants it back yeah that's it well and also it trapped the

[00:27:06] necklace traps him in his grave in his sacred grave in his sacred but i think i think it's more

[00:27:12] that and maybe i'm reading too much into this i think it's more that he can be at peace

[00:27:18] when he's got the necklace so even that the necklace is above him and he can be

[00:27:22] in his grave and he's at peace yeah but the necklace gets so and then that's when all

[00:27:26] hell breaks loose that's when he comes that's when he needs to get his necklace back and

[00:27:30] everybody that gets in his way and that's and that's why to pay and that's why the

[00:27:34] ending even though i mean it's got a bit of a you know bit of a twist ending sort of anti-climatic

[00:27:41] that is kind of brilliant in a way it's absolutely brilliant because everybody that i know

[00:27:48] that has seen this movie and talked about it with us i've always said i thought this

[00:27:53] was going to be texas chainsaw yeah ending and for those of you who haven't seen it and

[00:27:57] you're still going to go see it it's not it's a different ending than that yeah but

[00:28:01] we're not going to tell you what we're not going to tell you what it is but it's

[00:28:04] it's it's so satisfying it's so satisfying here's my one my one thing that i that i

[00:28:11] that i don't like about it don't wait does this make it not the best slasher movie for you

[00:28:15] ever made i think it actually is the best slasher movie ever made so you agree with me i do

[00:28:19] okay good i wish it did one thing though what i wish it didn't call itself in a violent nature

[00:28:24] oh is that i think that they needed to to lose the inna i think this just needed to be violent

[00:28:31] nature and i think it's a better title it's catchier and it lends itself to sequels better

[00:28:37] too violent nature 2 violent nature 3 or whatever you know yeah but in a violent nature

[00:28:42] if it's a mouthful and it didn't need to be seen okay but won't this be even better if

[00:28:50] there's no sequel to this it will be in a violent nature makes perfect sense true so let's hope that

[00:28:58] there's not a second one there's gonna be because it's gonna destroy my well it has to make

[00:29:02] enough money so there will be but there's a couple things i wanted to bring up so

[00:29:06] things in um like the detail pieces in here and this is like from the geek side of things

[00:29:12] yeah the music on the cassette tape so this guy is listening to a cassette tape yeah and he

[00:29:18] gets killed and what's great is that you get the opinion he's been walking with this dead body

[00:29:24] for a while because he drags it around to the point that there's no music there's no music in

[00:29:29] this in this movie but the music that you do get is him and listening to the cassette tape

[00:29:36] as it slowly slowly the battery dies it's just walkman what's that it's like a walk walkman

[00:29:43] yeah because it's like it's like vintage like even the people in the movie are vintage right

[00:29:49] um and and also taking his time like when when we watched this the first time it was in a

[00:29:56] sold-out crowd and everybody was still pretty respectful to the film itself but every now that

[00:30:01] one then it got it got a little rowdy in there and you didn't hear everything that we

[00:30:06] heard second time around second time around you could hear more see more and in particular

[00:30:10] I didn't know in the first time I watched it that the guy who he kills with the woodcutter

[00:30:18] that he was still alive through it and watching it this time you know he's alive he's alive

[00:30:23] as he's going through it so that one that was another one but you know and even the

[00:30:29] hacky-hacky at the end I didn't I don't I don't remember actually hearing it like no see

[00:30:33] that's why she's still running through the woods and then all of a sudden she gets its

[00:30:36] other point then you can still hear it's like oh my god she's close to him again

[00:30:40] that's why when we watched it the first time I said to you that was my favorite kill yeah

[00:30:45] and you're like what you mean you didn't love it as much as the yogoo kill and I'm like no

[00:30:49] because he's still chopping like hours later I will say that that that kill made me maybe laugh

[00:30:56] more because every time I heard it I couldn't help it I was just so good it was that kill

[00:31:03] was totally in a violent nature yes ah see what I did there Merrick yeah no this is this was

[00:31:13] this is this is a piece of art I'm telling you the the closing credit song yes little black

[00:31:20] flies black flies oh my god flies little black flies always a black fly in my bones in north

[00:31:27] Ontario in north Ontario yes yeah no it's so good that's the other thing we didn't get I don't

[00:31:39] think because I think they went into the Q&A and I don't remember hearing the black flies song

[00:31:43] I think they they cut the music and cut the audio yeah which yeah which I'm so glad that we

[00:31:49] got to see got to see it so we could yeah you know what we don't like for people who

[00:31:54] listen to us regularly we normally don't re-watch movies because there's too much new content that

[00:32:00] we have to continually watch all the time because that's what drives us is new I'll be honest when

[00:32:05] you said you know what let's watch this again I was like really I mean I know I liked it I

[00:32:11] know I loved it but really it wasn't that long ago we're going back and watching it again and

[00:32:15] now I thank you Jim I this it was it was a different experience this time because it wasn't

[00:32:21] in a packed crowd which was a lot of fun yeah but this time I got all the little nuances that

[00:32:26] I missed the first time because it was in a packed crowd and there was so much you know

[00:32:30] gasping and laughing and this time it was just us making noise basically so and hot

[00:32:37] yeah but uh yeah no I'm so glad I watched this a second time in theater and on on a nice

[00:32:45] huge screen yeah with good sound yes and it was just it was just amazing I I love this movie

[00:32:53] as do I I have a feeling it may make our top 10 for next year it's possible yeah

[00:33:04] how creepy is that mask so good it's literally the best core mask ever in any movie ever

[00:33:12] the half I saw I would have given it a mad based on just the kills but

[00:33:16] yeah he moved way too slow and there just wasn't enough first half you know what there's a scene in

[00:33:22] the movie where he's walking along I just want to talk let's just spend let's not do anything

[00:33:27] else on this podcast let's just talk about this movie because we don't never do that we don't

[00:33:31] just talk for hours about one movie but this is one of those movies that should there is

[00:33:36] a scene in the movie where he's walking through and it's it's at um I think sunrise

[00:33:42] and the color saturation of his club his darkened body over the sun was like one of the most

[00:33:49] perfect shots and that's what that's what makes this also so good and it transcends other

[00:33:56] slashers because slasher films are not like I don't see a flash slash I've never seen a

[00:34:02] slasher filming went wow look at the shot yeah oh it's beautiful beautiful film to look at

[00:34:08] and there's a scene with the let's call her the final girl yeah um where she's just looking out

[00:34:15] into the forest and it's just the the the awe of of what she's been through and what she's

[00:34:24] looking out into and you're just like this is a beautiful beautiful movie there's a lot of

[00:34:29] violence and it's delicious violence yeah but it's it's so beautifully shot it's mondo it's

[00:34:36] super mondo now when you get to see the whole thing you know what Marie we should watch it

[00:34:41] together this weekend I'll watch it again I don't think I want to see this every week

[00:34:46] because with movies like this in my life now I kind of see why people rewatch terrible star

[00:34:52] I would definitely rather go see that than bad boys I can tell you oh god yeah let's not

[00:34:57] remind ourselves that'll be a torture for next Monday yeah it's gonna happen not to me

[00:35:02] murder myself before then all right well I'm gonna switch gears here after you guys talked

[00:35:07] about violence you're talking about love you're talking about a rom-com I'm always talking about

[00:35:12] love yeah what about love well someone to care about you what's love got to do with it

[00:35:19] that's what I want to know oh last weekend I did two things I really didn't want to do

[00:35:27] hmm and no I'm not talking about getting into into a canoe for the first time in 40 years

[00:35:33] thanks Jim you're welcome uh first thing I did was give money to Disney Plus what evil

[00:35:43] corporation on the planet wait did you watch grogu? by subscribing to their service did you

[00:35:49] watch grogu? uh yes but that is not movie related so I'm skipping past that second thing I did

[00:35:57] was actually watch something on a streaming service which I am also against I guess at

[00:36:04] least I can catch up on all the crappy Star Wars and Marvel shows before I cancel at the

[00:36:08] end of the month that's right the reason was obvious you were wanting to watch and thrice

[00:36:13] already alluded to it the film was Jim Henson idea man what there you go directed by my

[00:36:20] former and future favorite director Ron Howard yep now that Taika Waititi has decided to make

[00:36:29] crappy movies that's right he has he was my number one because I went back and looked and

[00:36:33] he was my number one for a while after Ragnarok he was my number one yeah and then he

[00:36:38] shit the bed yeah um like double shit the bed don't forget that yeah Jim Henson played a huge

[00:36:45] part in my childhood that's why he's pretty much everybody else in my eight bracket yeah he

[00:36:51] created Kermit the Frog, Sesame Street, The Muppets, Fraggle Rock and feature films Dark

[00:36:58] Crystal and Labyrinth yes uh the documentary had wonderful behind-the-scenes footage of

[00:37:05] the magic that Henson and Frank Oz created with their silly puppets just watching them like

[00:37:12] with Bert and Ernie on their hands and like I never even realized that that the whole set was

[00:37:18] like five feet up in the air yeah like I never even knew that um Kermit, Miss Piggy, Ozzy,

[00:37:28] Ralph, the dog, Gonzo, Swedish Chef and Beaker and my favorite animal animal animal pure delight to

[00:37:38] this latchkey kid from a single parent family they were my friends along with Bert and Ernie

[00:37:44] and Grover and Big Bird and Cookie Monster Grover near four Gonzo's my favorite he always was

[00:37:52] Gonzo's? Gonzo's fun but yeah can't beat the Beaker and the Swedish Chef

[00:37:57] my favorite's probably Guy Smiley yeah he was all right too it's because he looks like you

[00:38:02] the only drawback of this documentary is that Jim Henson was not a controversial man no the

[00:38:09] worst thing you can say about him is that he got a divorce and that was only because his

[00:38:14] work consumed his life so much he didn't have time for his family yeah that was the worst

[00:38:19] thing I think he ever did in his life which is something you can say for a lot of fathers

[00:38:23] especially in the 60s and 70s um Jim Henson led a simple and honest life brought joy to children

[00:38:31] all over the world much like the director my main dude Opie Cunningham yes was also not

[00:38:37] controversial no no uh sadly Jim Henson died far too soon he was only 53 yeah the same age

[00:38:47] I am now yes and with Bryce and his all his ailments that he goes I don't need to go see

[00:38:53] the doctor yeah my body takes care of it I predicted that he's gonna die the same way

[00:38:57] no Jim's like ah just a cold I can fight it yeah exactly that's exactly what Bryce would say

[00:39:02] he died of pneumonia yes Bryce days before he was about to sell his company to Disney

[00:39:08] he was a workaholic though uh that's not you no unfortunately it happened anyway eventually

[00:39:14] and they now own Kermit and friends yeah it wasn't for his lack of trying to protect people he

[00:39:19] wanted to give all the money from the sale to the puppeteers but of course then he died

[00:39:25] and all the puppeteers got fucked yeah exactly because it's Disney because it's Disney

[00:39:29] still Henson's legacy is undeniable it's not easy being green R.I.P. Mr. Henson and thank you

[00:39:38] yeah you know um the that there's been so much like through the years for like like you say from

[00:39:47] our age and maybe a little older even the parents like I was too old for when Sesame started

[00:39:56] but I still remember still watching it because I thought it was cool the guest stars they had

[00:40:00] on Sesame Street I had two channels in the 70s cbc and ctv is of course Sesame Street is

[00:40:05] on every day yeah two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve

[00:40:15] I loved seeing gay characters that early on it's like why weren't why aren't we seeing more

[00:40:20] Jim Henson was ahead of his time absolutely yes it was so fun to watch him do all that even

[00:40:25] like the the feature films which apparently bombed the box office but are not classics

[00:40:29] yeah I actually need to watch Labyrinth again because I've watched I watched it once when I

[00:40:34] was maybe I don't know whenever it came out and I mentioned like one of my major celebrity

[00:40:39] crushes was in it yeah she was only 14 then Connelly what great wait maybe Dark Crystal

[00:40:44] you were you were wait that was odd by the way Jennifer Connelly almost all of a sudden

[00:40:49] popped up at the end of the documentary like said like two sentences yeah that's all she was

[00:40:53] 14 and she was like dancing with whoever the prince was a bowie I don't know who David Bowie

[00:40:59] and that was her first thing here we did that's that's uh one of the reasons I suggested that

[00:41:04] Bryce should re-watch it because there's so many shots of David Bowie's package in that

[00:41:10] it's just worth the price of admission yeah like I went man I'm gonna I'm gonna watch

[00:41:15] David Bowie is a big star yeah and when you get to see that giant penis on the big screen

[00:41:22] is there like a 25th or a 50th or a 30th anniversary because we really should go watch

[00:41:27] in cinema to get the full effect of how big David Bowie's penises are now owned by Disney

[00:41:32] in those pants probably bleeds it out a black bar in front of it because it's on Disney

[00:41:39] or digitally shaved it off despite one of my Jared's non-sexual yeah despite my hatred

[00:41:48] of Disney it was worth the 15 dollars just to watch that 15 why didn't you get the 8.99 I

[00:41:53] tried on freaking telus and then they they charged me 15 because apparently my tv is not new enough

[00:42:00] to get the Disney channel because it's listed on on the box but I think I need like a 4k box or

[00:42:06] some crap so I still have to watch it on my laptop nice whatever and yeah get your money's

[00:42:11] worth out of it there's other content uh yeah no I do all you can I caught up on the first

[00:42:15] two seasons of that and yeah there's all sorts of marble crap you probably have to

[00:42:19] season I'm like I'm not really feeling this at all thankfully this halfway through the second

[00:42:24] season it's like oh now it's getting good now it's like lightsaber battles and stuff and then

[00:42:29] the end of season two it's like awesome because I'm trying to watch them in order

[00:42:33] because the timelines are all over the place oh you're talking Star Wars yeah yeah and then

[00:42:36] I did watch us Ahsoka and only to discover that it's actually the live action version of

[00:42:42] the animated version which was already done because of course my favorite character is in

[00:42:47] it yeah but also it's because Disney doesn't have any original anyway so yeah I'm gonna watch all

[00:42:51] the Disney crap I can for the next three years and we have we all have that to look forward

[00:42:56] to hearing about it and there's also a new one just started yesterday so that one looks nice

[00:43:01] anyway yeah what started yesterday uh a new series uh the acolyte the acolyte yeah it's

[00:43:10] basically it's a hundred years before Anakin was ever born oh it's another Star Wars the dales

[00:43:17] it was in the days of the the newer like the old republic before the empire came along you're

[00:43:22] you're mr star wars if yeah is uh are they actually making the movie that I've heard about

[00:43:28] it's like Ahsoka and uh I heard they're making Boba Fett and the Mandalorian all in one movie

[00:43:34] Boba Fett actually if you watched Grogu uh he shows up the original Boba Fett yeah which was

[00:43:42] like holy shit it's Boba Fett I thought they're gonna have some weird crossover with all three

[00:43:45] of those and they probably will but they already did too because they did Mandalorian and Boba

[00:43:48] Fett because Boba Fett wears Mandalorian armor because he's the Mandalorian he comes to get

[00:43:53] back but it's gonna be a movie right he ends up being a good guy and now it's actually a

[00:43:57] book of Boba Fett which I haven't watched yet oh it's good but then there's Mandalorian

[00:44:02] I will say that the the Star Wars series for the most part are pretty good

[00:44:06] book of Boba Fett was good Mandalorian I really like yes see some some are too

[00:44:10] big to too based on kids and some they actually do go dark but not dark enough nothing is ever

[00:44:17] dark everything's gonna be dark or not dark now in the future the ray is coming back she's

[00:44:23] gonna be teaching much new Jedi you know what I'm already tired of this conversation because

[00:44:28] I don't like Disney all right well I just gave you something to read about then there you go

[00:44:32] temperature rising vision blurring rage taking over

[00:45:13] so I didn't really have a lot to rage about this week because other than the writing from

[00:45:20] Ezra which I didn't think it was great it wasn't enough to make me rage because I still

[00:45:26] thought the movie was mad but what I'm gonna what I'm gonna rage about is first off thanks Marie

[00:45:33] because you gave me that I'm gonna say anything Disney makes me vomit yes so that's that's why

[00:45:38] you know how hard it was for me this weekend to actually give them money push that button yeah

[00:45:42] I had to push the button but what I'm gonna what I'm gonna rage about is the combos at

[00:45:50] the movie theater so I only bought a combo at the movie theater last weekend because I wanted

[00:45:57] to get the free rental but they make you buy a large everything which is like 20 some bucks

[00:46:03] just for the combo I don't know it was like a hundred dollars or something and then I had like

[00:46:08] two handfuls and then I just gave it to Bryce so popcorn that was good actually

[00:46:12] you should do that more often yeah I see you meant the popcorn on the candy yeah no I still have

[00:46:17] no he doesn't eat candy but I still have half the sugar but you know what I do have is I

[00:46:23] have a free movie rental there you go on Cineplex so here's the thing my ultimate rage

[00:46:30] is that we've got two major movie houses houses companies companies Landmark and Cineplex and they

[00:46:39] create things that are similar but they're not similar so you get some things at Landmark

[00:46:44] that is really good and some things at at Cineplex that are really good but why can't

[00:46:49] they just come why don't they we just have one giant monopoly because then we would get all

[00:46:54] the flavored drinks because Bryce in his infinite wisdom because he had no time by the way

[00:46:59] we don't want a giant monopoly just shut up I want all the good things from both at both cinemas

[00:47:07] oh my god she's actually looking at buying Landmark so it's gonna happen well I don't

[00:47:13] know if it can happen but what I do want is I want those more flavors of pop yeah I want

[00:47:19] I want free movie rental when I buy a combo but I only want that combo from Landmark

[00:47:24] so it's just like there's no hybrid for me I wish I lived in the states and we could go to the

[00:47:29] whatever that AVX you pay $20 a month and you can watch every movie you want as many times as

[00:47:35] you want like to me that's what doesn't have snacks though yeah who cares like the amount of

[00:47:39] money we spend watching movies every week even though we get it discounted I just want to

[00:47:44] watch everything all the time that's why yeah so you know what my rage is all over the place

[00:47:50] I know I don't even know what I'm gonna put as always Cineplex sucks I will always stand by that

[00:47:57] yeah because they had the combo I like because unlike Bryce I can't eat three bags of popcorn

[00:48:03] in one sitting yeah I used to be I order the little it's almost a little kids combo it's

[00:48:08] like the small combo it's a tiny little box of popcorn and you get a chocolate bar and you

[00:48:15] get the drink and I can upsize my drink and it's still less than $10 there you go

[00:48:20] and that is all I need for a movie I can't do that at Cineplex no the freaking drink is

[00:48:24] seven dollars that's right that's stupid throw that on my pile there you go um I don't know

[00:48:59] I'm pretty happy this week I guess wake him up that's not normally like you I guess yeah

[00:49:04] if anything my rage is maybe Robert De Niro's agent

[00:49:09] um yeah that's a you know it's not like he doesn't because he showed that he's got the

[00:49:14] ability still to to act his ass off and pick a good idea yeah and and take up you know

[00:49:22] and really he took a character and he made it so much better than it deserved to be

[00:49:27] based on the writing yeah um good actor and he is so sometimes there is there is a there is a

[00:49:35] character there for him but he's also in like his like I don't know if it's De Niro or if

[00:49:40] it's his agent or it's a combination of two but come on about my father like just total garbage

[00:49:46] you know like the comeback trail total garbage the war with grandpa total gar like that one

[00:49:52] I enjoyed oh my god didn't have beams con in that too I don't even remember I know uh

[00:50:00] Christopher Walken was in it because yeah that one line that's right

[00:50:04] something all the old parts are in that he died while skydiving see it's funny

[00:50:12] he died in his sleep well skydiving see that wasn't a good movie you're dumb

[00:50:19] that was the only line I messed it up

[00:50:24] one good line and it had nothing to do with De Niro De Niro was terrible in it

[00:50:28] and it wasn't that it's just that it's such he chooses such crap and I really I realize at some

[00:50:33] point you get to a certain age and you take what you can get but there's also still rolls out

[00:50:38] there for you and you don't have to take every piece of garbage you know there's a

[00:50:42] difference between say De Niro who's been taking a bunch of shit and um what's his

[00:50:49] name the dude from the sound of music that uh Christopher Plummer yeah Christopher Plummer is

[00:50:54] a perfectly good example as he aged every movie he made near the end of his career he they were

[00:51:00] fantastic roles like just fantastic I know or Max von Sido before he died example was those

[00:51:07] those are ones and these these are guys that were on their freaking deathbed

[00:51:11] nowhere near that right yeah Sido was in flashcords so yeah exactly a fantastic movie

[00:51:17] I don't know about that and he's brilliant he was in it when he was he was also one of

[00:51:22] my favorite movies of all time which I wouldn't even say was his best strange brew he was

[00:51:28] definitely in it and he was excellent but but his movies later in his life he got he chose

[00:51:35] he actually chose better as he went back to his his early so so it can be done so what is

[00:51:42] De Niro doing just saying no to terrible movies that's it and yes to movies where there's

[00:51:48] an opportunity to shine here here you know what that was a good rage I was okay it's bad I think

[00:51:53] it was better than mine which is rare wow yours was all over the I don't even I still

[00:51:57] I don't even know what yours was Jim he doesn't like buying condoms

[00:52:04] I also don't like buying condoms who does there is a combo I'm waiting for

[00:52:11] I don't oh the one where you get to stick your hand in someone's ass that's right

[00:52:15] deadpool and Wolverine that's right I've seen the popcorn bucket I'm buying that bucket is the

[00:52:20] is the I forgot is there both heads on either side so you know I think it's just Wolverine

[00:52:24] for now but they may make one with Deadpool where it's his ass I think it would be better

[00:52:29] if it was Deadpool's ass and it comes out Wolverine's mouth that's the never know anyway

[00:52:33] popcorn bucket I want that's just fun so yeah rage subsiding

[00:52:49] oh the lists uh go to our website filmrage yyc and check out our page called the lists there is

[00:52:57] five lists there is the mesmerizing there is the repulsive there is the doubted the undoubted

[00:53:07] and the recently departed from the mesmerized list because they were knocked out so the

[00:53:14] murr challenged us to see if we could get rid of either Michael Stilberg Stilberg or Mark

[00:53:23] Rylance in the film bones and all and it's kind of unfair it's a little unfair

[00:53:32] only because Stilberg isn't in it long enough but I mean here's my thoughts

[00:53:39] I don't think it's possible for anybody to take out Mark Rylance I don't think it's

[00:53:45] possible either there's not a person alive there's just nobody there's nobody qualified

[00:53:50] except maybe maybe Daniel Day-Lewis maybe Daniel Day-Lewis but if Daniel Day-Lewis comes out of

[00:53:56] retirement no one in no one can possibly take Mark Rylance out there they're the they're

[00:54:02] they're they're they are I'm gonna say it Mark Rylance and Daniel Day-Lewis are my two

[00:54:07] favorite actors of all time I mean Tom Hardy's up there for me too Tom Hardy's great

[00:54:13] and Tom Hardy by the time his career is over might be up to those two might catch

[00:54:17] up to Mark Rylance but man that is an actor man this that is an actor the scene where

[00:54:26] Mark Rylance in his underpants is eating that old lady oh with um what's her name Taylor

[00:54:34] so good what's her name Taylor Taylor Russell yeah when and his balls are hanging out of his

[00:54:41] crappy white tighty whiteys tiny whitey and blood stained wife beater like he's just so

[00:54:52] brilliant and the sad thing is Stolberg during his his six and a half minutes because I timed it

[00:54:59] he was good he was brilliant yeah absolutely but it's you're talking about going against Mark

[00:55:04] Rylance it's just impossible you know what and it's sad because Storberg's knocked out

[00:55:10] a few himself yeah right so I don't know I mean having seen both of them in a couple movies yep

[00:55:18] I'm not crazy what he's one of them I mean they're both okay I would never I never would

[00:55:22] never put them on a mesmerizing list but if I had to pick one of the two it would definitely

[00:55:26] be Rylance okay I never liked Stolberg never liked them wow yeah but he also doesn't like

[00:55:33] Clifton Clifton Collins either so why I don't know because he's brilliant yeah you know

[00:55:39] maybe that's someone who could take out Rylance I don't know no I don't wow he's good but I

[00:55:44] don't think so I there's Rylance is just on here is they have to be in the same movie together

[00:55:49] I know which I'm finding tougher I know if you look at my list half of the list people

[00:55:54] who are on here there's no matches yep which means that they potentially are mesmerized for

[00:56:01] life there's nothing left there really isn't that's it we've made it I've got like two

[00:56:06] oh you've got you still got two okay three I guess nice what you got I still know what and

[00:56:11] punching the clown what we decided about that one because I still have it on here what somebody's

[00:56:17] punching a clown it's called and punching the clown it's got Tignitar and Clifton Collins but

[00:56:22] I'm sure I brought it up before I don't know why I keep putting it on here and punching the

[00:56:27] clown that's what it's called punch it it's called punching the clown and punching the

[00:56:31] and or and maybe Tignitar is not in it long enough maybe I don't know I'm sure we talked

[00:56:36] about it before but I don't know why anyway um yeah there's not a whole lot left here so

[00:56:43] let's go with one that's been here for a while we got Stephen McHaddy all right Michael

[00:56:49] Ironside oh Canadian Tokyo Trial Tokyo Trial Tokyo Trial, Hattie. Yeah I got like three matches

[00:57:03] left and then we're out so well then you know what unless you put somebody else other than

[00:57:09] yeah I mean that's that's definitely possible like we're not gonna get down to one one person

[00:57:13] because half the people on the list are either dead or else they're not making movies anymore

[00:57:16] or else there's no matches for them so oh and there you go well let's so anyway Tokyo Trial

[00:57:24] yeah there we go done uh by the way just to just to let you know Chris Nash is only seven

[00:57:34] films away from being undoubted. The hell's Chris Nash? He's the director of In a Violent

[00:57:39] Nature he has made one feature oh okay yeah that didn't even occur to me nice well I was

[00:57:48] gonna say Tom Hardy had to make a few more movies because I think the last one that I

[00:57:52] remember that wasn't so good was Venom 2. Yeah he can't be undoubted no we haven't as much as we

[00:58:00] he hasn't I mean he's good in everything he does just I I'd be willing to put him up

[00:58:07] his mesmerizing I mean I think Tom Hardy's mesmerizing in everything yes if you want

[00:58:13] to throw him up there I can find a few matches I am officially putting him forward

[00:58:18] I don't understand Tom Hardy who hasn't been on isn't on our mesmerized list no never been

[00:58:22] never never been on no never been taken off what's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of course

[00:58:26] he's mesmerizing yeah why well it's stupido what's going on what is wrong with you Jim

[00:58:34] for not bringing this up earlier what is wrong with me what apparently everything's wrong

[00:58:40] with us I didn't know there's a new Venom coming out yeah which is probably gonna make

[00:58:44] it another one I can see the trailer I don't think Spider-Man's anywhere near it

[00:58:49] I don't even see him in it but it's like a bunch of other Venoms from space

[00:58:53] Venoms from space so it's like Venom versus like sounds awesome it's like Venom versus like all

[00:59:00] of his other family his creatures so it's one against a hundred or whatever so that might be

[00:59:05] interesting yeah plus it's Tom Hardy figure it's Tom Hardy anyway Tom Hardy all right then

[00:59:10] that it I guess that's it we're putting Tom Hardy on he's gonna be mesmerizing right then

[00:59:16] I can't believe that he wasn't already last week on rage or dare as usual Bryce slacked off on

[00:59:28] his duties so no free-range rage for our Jimmy boy yet Jim managed to pull from our listeners

[00:59:35] dare bag of men and found another tubby-tastic classic when he pulled the 1971 film werewolves

[00:59:42] on wheels oh werewolves on wheels wait what's this a special dare this week for the boys

[00:59:53] one of our listeners has dared them to watch the 2003 film the room written directed and

[01:00:00] starring the legend himself Tommy Weasel this this was a dare come on listeners way too easy

[01:00:09] you can do better oh well I guess it was bound to happen at some point all right then are you

[01:00:15] ready to find out how many wheelies these werewolves can do how how do they hold on

[01:00:21] to the handlebars after all that can't be easy will this film turn us Warren Z Vaughn

[01:00:28] or will it be a Warren Z Vaughn? Oh werewolves on wheels let's check in with Jim and find out

[01:00:39] how many wheelies can it hold on to the handlebars to be tastic I love that I'm gonna steal that

[01:00:45] more importantly it's a Warren Z Vaughn or a Warren Z Vaughn

[01:00:51] I didn't get that well it's werewolves of London it has nothing to do with werewolves

[01:00:56] on wheels oh is that what he was I was wrong yeah werewolves wheels well there there wasn't

[01:01:04] really a theme music for the London is the best werewolf one ever for this movie I mean there's

[01:01:09] not a lot of songs about werewolves what are you gonna do all right well you know I have

[01:01:16] a bit of a yeah I guess there is another one about werewolves yeah right okay wolfman jack

[01:01:21] okay well Warren Z Vaughn was the one who wrote where was a London never heard of him

[01:01:26] all right well you've heard the song all right well that's Warren Z Vaughn so he was the

[01:01:31] one who had wonder not really ish sounds like he was anyway all right so this is going to be an

[01:01:38] interesting review because what I really want to tell you is the story about what this movie is

[01:01:43] about because that in itself tells the story of how I'm not going to give any spoilers

[01:01:51] how this movie affected me it affected you so first off this was no easy rider that's for

[01:01:57] sure although it had all the tried to be it had all that great 60s and 70s music throughout like

[01:02:04] easy rider it starts out with these mean bikers and I'm putting that in heavy quotes who chased

[01:02:10] down and beat up these two dudes at a gas station then go inside the convenience store

[01:02:16] of the gas station and one of their lady friends shows her boobies to the gas station

[01:02:22] attendant and then tears his shirt off and then rubs up against him and then they roll around on a

[01:02:29] apparently uh couch that's in the convenience store uh well I think there's a diner too yeah

[01:02:35] well at the while the another biker reads tarot cards where he tells the future of one of the

[01:02:41] ladies that she will die in the tower with satan which then they ride to the middle of

[01:02:48] nowhere and find a monk's cult who drug them start a satanic ritual as one lady gets up from

[01:02:56] being drugged then strips and dances naked around a monk circle jerk satan style then

[01:03:02] the bikers wake up and from their haze they have a fist fight with the monks where the

[01:03:07] monks wipe poop or something on their face or maybe it's blood or something I'm not sure

[01:03:12] then they grab the naked dance girl and ride off with her to meet the rest of their gang where

[01:03:19] they have a campfire get drunk and two of them get killed by werewolf hands then they wake up

[01:03:26] the next day and notice that two dead people and so they ride their bikes again away from

[01:03:31] the two dead people while a cool song plays and then they go back to the gas station but

[01:03:37] then they pretend it's a different gas station like they went somewhere else then they steal

[01:03:41] like one liter of gas maybe and then they drive off yeah so there there's 12 bikes and one liter

[01:03:48] of gas that they steal then they drive to a dump for god knows what reasons then one of them

[01:03:53] says he wants to quit the band oh sorry not a not not a band it's it's a gang so so they

[01:04:00] light the dump on fire and then a bunch of nothing happens except a terrible john wane

[01:04:05] impersonation then a couple of werewolf hands kill a couple of other random people and then

[01:04:10] the number of the members of the gang grew over the night almost like gremlins or something

[01:04:16] poured water on them and they multiplied so then they drive off again saying that they want to

[01:04:21] kill the monks then they drive through a magic fog and end up in a desert for no reason then

[01:04:28] they drive off after the leader punches out one of the dudes but then they kind of leave him

[01:04:34] there and the gang somehow yeah they get they get lost maybe it's in the fog almost like it was

[01:04:41] depending on what day you get more or less gang members in the gang because sometimes there's

[01:04:48] six sometimes there's 12 sometimes there's 20 but you never know what you're going to get

[01:04:52] sometimes the gang is just bigger or smaller other chapters it's just depends on who showed

[01:04:57] up for work that day so then by magic the guy who the leader punched out when they drove

[01:05:02] away from him magically appears in the location where they stop when they get to wherever they're

[01:05:07] going and then they fight again and then they light another campfire where a wax dude that kind

[01:05:13] of looks like a giant candle dildo from monk cult circle jerk appears in the fire and one

[01:05:18] of them turns into a werewolf that looks like the 1941 version of the wolf man then a naked

[01:05:24] dancer lady turns also into a werewolf they light her on fire and then they chase the

[01:05:29] other dude who's actually now a werewolf and he's riding on a motorcycle and how he's holding on

[01:05:35] i don't know till they light him on fire and then he explodes then they go to the monks

[01:05:40] to beat them up but the monks look at them and then give them blood dripped in bread

[01:05:44] and then they drive away maybe as werewolves maybe not i'm not sure so it makes you think

[01:05:53] it's a real thing i yeah i was thinking a lot why i wish i was on drugs when i watched this i was

[01:06:02] just begging for something to happen yeah so this was a super hot mess of werewolf arms

[01:06:08] motorcycle gangs devil worshipping monks um some tna and gas station stealing episode

[01:06:14] now this was really really bad and there wasn't not very much redeeming qualities although i

[01:06:19] did like werewolf hands like if you're gonna kill someone just use the werewolf hands so it was good

[01:06:28] no it was terrible it was awful yeah because i'm bored and not working right now i saw watched

[01:06:32] about half of this and yeah it was terrible i couldn't get through half my kids are just stupid

[01:06:37] there's no like i couldn't figure out what the story was he just kept driving around

[01:06:41] and stopping then having a fire and then all of a sudden one of them would be dying like

[01:06:46] i don't think they actually showed anybody actually getting killed they just showed like

[01:06:49] they showed the werewolf hand the werewolf hands that's it

[01:06:53] hmm yeah um yeah this was painful thank you listeners you you you've redeemed yourself

[01:07:00] from the listener dare bag of mass what i want to say so we got to watch tommy

[01:07:07] oh you said it was uh the room it is with tommy with so yeah so i mean this is this is kind

[01:07:15] of low-hanging fruit because i mean it's known to be i mean did you see this in

[01:07:20] cinemas last time it was in in town no i watched it once as a curiosity on home video

[01:07:27] many many years ago broken no no that was the movie about him yeah oh yeah but this is

[01:07:34] the actual this is the actual movie that that that that was based on the making of that movie

[01:07:39] yeah oh yes yes so yeah i'm sounds i'm kind of not looking forward to this

[01:07:46] because it is really bad the funniest thing about it is he's made his whole career

[01:07:51] off of making a movie that he pretends he made intentionally to be bad yeah but that's not

[01:07:58] true he just made a terrible movie was that a thing he doesn't defend it in any way or no

[01:08:05] he he he talks about openly about the fact that he meant to make it bad ha ha ha oh really yeah oh

[01:08:12] yeah yeah i didn't even know that yeah oh yeah well that's sad he should just embrace it

[01:08:17] yeah just like you don't think plan nine from outer space you don't think ed wood wasn't proud

[01:08:23] of that masterpiece yes which that's coming to cinemas by the way oh is it yeah we should go

[01:08:29] see it yeah well it's playing this weekend i think you know it is i used to have it on

[01:08:34] blu ray i don't know if i have you know it is playing next weekend at our favorite

[01:08:39] art house cinema i'm listening co-sponsored by our favorite festival oh which i never liked but

[01:08:44] a lot of i know certain people who love it that'd be the toxic avenger oh nice so if you're

[01:08:50] into that one check it out at the at the globe exactly next weekend and uh thanks april for

[01:08:57] daring us to see the room which we will be talking about next week

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