TALES FROM THE CRYPT HBO Series Retrospect (with JJ, Tom, Gil Palmer & Jon Mark)

[00:00:00] Madden, you got it!

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[00:00:40] Face Artukile.

[00:00:41] Doctor!

[00:00:44] But you can count on my directors.

[00:00:48] Three tales from The Crypt, June 10th on HBO.

[00:00:52] It's a night to dismember!

[00:00:55] Warning, strong content.

[00:00:58] Parental discretion advised.

[00:01:04] A picture directing debut of one of America's most talented and respected artists.

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[00:01:13] Oh, hello, kitties.

[00:01:16] So glad you could join me.

[00:01:18] Your pal, The Cryptkeeper, has gone Hollywood in a big way.

[00:01:23] I'm directing my first feature film.

[00:01:26] Frights!

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[00:01:29] Hatchin'!

[00:01:32] It's about a chase through the ages.

[00:01:35] A race against time.

[00:01:38] The war between good and evil.

[00:01:43] Battle between man.

[00:01:51] I'm sorry.

[00:01:53] And demon.

[00:01:54] I'm not gonna hurt you.

[00:01:57] I lied.

[00:01:58] It stars Billy Zane from Dead Calm.

[00:02:01] William Sadler from Die Hard 2.

[00:02:05] And Jada Pinkett from Menace to Society.

[00:02:10] Ooh, I love those titles.

[00:02:12] And you'll love Demon Knight.

[00:02:14] The hair! The demon's the hair!

[00:02:17] And ladies, if you think the-

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[00:03:16] Alrighty gang, we are going back into anthology territory.

[00:03:20] No, not Doctor Who, not MSD Vrigai, not Twilight Zone.

[00:03:24] Telz from The Crypt.

[00:03:25] comic book adaptation that was the first to feature the whole HBO brand it's not

[00:03:30] TV it has you know run for seven seasons three movies two earlier movies as well

[00:03:36] as other local convention appearances of the Crypt Keeper played by stand-up

[00:03:42] comedian John Kassir HBO in recent years has lost the license so it is not

[00:03:47] streaming anywhere but you can watch every episode on YouTube or get it on

[00:03:50] DVD yeah I looked at the price for the whole collection

[00:03:54] yeah I think I saw it on Amazon Prime for like 50 bucks for Wow it's not a crazy

[00:04:00] history I've had dads from the Crypt on before and they produced the podcast

[00:04:05] called how not to make a movie which has the head writers Al Katz and Gil Adler who

[00:04:11] have worked that pretty much that's where you get that name from yeah apologies

[00:04:15] yeah I can't call him Gil Palmer Gil Heller here with me tonight or yeah Gil

[00:04:20] Palmer speaking here hello I'm your host Sully James vampire of the hour Bruno

[00:04:29] yeah Tom not Yoda not Crypt Keeper just Chucky

[00:04:35] I've been called worse so I'll take that it's a couple of it

[00:04:40] believe or not coincidentally Kevin Yeager worked on the effects for both

[00:04:44] Chucky and he confirmed in interviews that the Crypt Keepers eyes are

[00:04:47] actually Chucky's eyes yeah you want to talk about a show that was like hot for

[00:04:51] a minute a lot of people talk about but not everyone looks at it's like they

[00:04:55] used to show re edited reruns on Fox sci-fi channel and even Chiller and then

[00:05:00] it just kept vanishing but the how not to make a movie podcast is great

[00:05:04] because the two lead writers explain all the utter bullshit that went on on the

[00:05:08] Portello blood movie set how it was a bad script no one wanted to make it

[00:05:12] and yet Dennis Miller was impossible to work with we'll focus less on that

[00:05:16] we'll focus on the good here that there's this show is notable for crazy plot

[00:05:20] twists outrageous guest appearances and having a movie look hey hey hey man

[00:05:25] and thank you for me if you guys you guys make this little podcasting you do

[00:05:31] it makes this next the movie looks like that's like that I'll dunk when round

[00:05:35] table okay babe right man and John Kassir the stand-up comedian he had no

[00:05:46] improv experience but he was on one of those HBO shared comedian sets so the

[00:05:52] programmers knew his name and the reason he got the gig was he kept winning

[00:05:56] star search yeah he told the same free jokes in a row and he kept winning

[00:06:02] because they were so fucking hysterical and when asked you know what was your

[00:06:05] inspiration he's like it was either this or sit on my parents couch and he

[00:06:09] has since gone on to do all kinds of video game voiceovers he's even

[00:06:13] voiced the Crypt Keeper and other stuff like Animaniacs and Casper and he would

[00:06:16] made an animated cartoon for tales from yes they did yeah yeah they did the final

[00:06:22] episode that was the same Canadian company and I know James said you had

[00:06:25] seen it I couldn't find any episodes online but I do have an action figure

[00:06:30] that's from that edition they made toys for the kids show version there is

[00:06:36] some stuff on Pluto oh sweet and not because I went looking for tales from

[00:06:41] the crypt my failed tales from the Crypt Keeper on Pluto oh sweet yeah

[00:06:45] perversions of science is kind of a loose spinoff it's kind of just mainly has

[00:06:49] a sexy CGI robot host but it's a lot of the same stuff it's got a lot of the

[00:06:54] same directors portrayed by Maureen Teefe who was in fame and Bruce too that's

[00:07:00] who that was okay it was a familiar sounding voice I didn't know but you

[00:07:04] can watch all those on YouTube as well it's

[00:07:29] just about anything I'm used to that from the makers of tales from the crypt comes

[00:07:35] the new HBO series perversions of science PS because a mind is a wonderful

[00:07:41] thing to twist you've gotten all this you know turned around inside your head

[00:07:49] wild how this is such a popular show and yet it doesn't seem to be any light

[00:07:52] around the corner and resurrecting it which is a shame I watched the first

[00:07:56] season now I look back on like I'm happy I got to watch it it's like

[00:08:01] gallows humor yeah what's funny is the podcasts that are about this making of

[00:08:06] the show they confirm so many hysterical stories about producer Jill Silver and

[00:08:10] you know since he's working with all his favorites you know Richard Donner

[00:08:13] Bob Zemeckis and Walter Hill he was reusing a lot of the same film sets

[00:08:17] and crew as lethal weapon in 48 hours he was one of those you know

[00:08:21] you've seen him parodied by the Tom Cruise character in Tropic Thunder

[00:08:24] but he was just one of those he just it was one of those do as I say now as I

[00:08:28] do his apparently his office towered over all the people who visited it so he

[00:08:34] was already kind of making you very insecure the minute you walked in

[00:08:37] there he would do the infamous you know as soon as I hang up you better say

[00:08:42] yes it's like dude I appreciate you looking out for me but I don't want to

[00:08:45] do this movie right now you'll never work in this town again sport

[00:08:49] the extension of this manhood building I mean I've been talking to him

[00:08:53] but he is a character he's interesting also in that how this show has just

[00:08:59] everyone remembers just multiple episodes and I can only imagine the horror

[00:09:03] so to speak of just coming in the middle of one and saying what is this

[00:09:06] I've never heard of this you know just realizing oh it's an anthology of the

[00:09:09] week you think that was on the same time as the kids in the hall I think so

[00:09:14] so yeah and the reason they hold and Britain was just because Joel Silver

[00:09:20] hated the screen actors killed so much and he's like I'm going to stop you know

[00:09:24] just to spite you I'm not going to follow your rules we're going to go film in

[00:09:27] England I remember watching tales from the crypt on it I think it was HBO

[00:09:32] back to back dream on I think it was a show that's what they would do

[00:09:36] they would do Marathon yeah I remember this there's a joke the

[00:09:40] film mystery science uses state to for tales of the crypts after G

[00:09:44] Mons is the best thing on TV I'm surprised they never crossed over together

[00:09:51] it's kind of from the same bread and butter in a way but yeah they would

[00:09:55] reference the crib keeper quite a lot on that horror show what is your

[00:09:58] guys's kind of favorite creep keeper segments I I'll say looking in

[00:10:03] retrospect this first season the voice in the puppetry isn't quite there

[00:10:07] yet seems to be like a few seconds behind but overall there's just so

[00:10:12] many different ones where he's chain sawing people to death he's getting

[00:10:16] ready to hang himself in an earlier episode is just all I love the one I

[00:10:22] love is going to Schwarzenegger did yeah we were just talking about that

[00:10:26] off air and much like the Tom Hanks ones and Michael J Fox ones they're

[00:10:29] just so funny how they you know the cameo both in the episode as well

[00:10:34] as just it was a very fast shoot and it would just kind of gave it some

[00:10:38] more notoriety and I think by season four and five this show is on fire

[00:10:42] like there are so many other great guests and witty scripts I love also just

[00:10:48] when the creep keeper takes out the actual magazine that the episode is

[00:10:51] based on I never really read the comic it is kind of one of those like

[00:10:56] Sin City some episodes are way way like watered down and I think for good

[00:11:01] reason it would just be too morbid I know yeah and they pulled from

[00:11:07] other sources other than tales from the crypt comic they also pulled from

[00:11:11] other easy comic books also sweet some of those stories I noticed that when I

[00:11:15] see the opening credits that's the shame here no one can figure it out if

[00:11:19] Joel Silver owns it if HBO owns it but it seems like easy comics or

[00:11:23] whatever remains of their firm has gotten the rides back but well yeah

[00:11:28] thanks to you know the Senate subcommittee on juvenile delinquency

[00:11:33] in the 1950s they basically attacked easy comics and pretty much

[00:11:38] eliminate the eliminate their entire line leaving them only with like mad

[00:11:42] magazine yeah so my god yeah and then another one called crazy that was

[00:11:47] that was a marvel look oh wow I didn't know I would but yeah it was

[00:11:54] easy comic is the easy comic is how I got into the show because I was

[00:12:01] sweet with that I I did I did project a few projects in high school and

[00:12:06] college about comic books and I talked a little bit about the easy

[00:12:10] comic especially and William Gaines and sweet and the whole thing and the

[00:12:19] whole thing came down to where I watched the show I liked it but I

[00:12:24] also can't notice there was some stuff that it felt watered down as

[00:12:28] compared to the comics because back then when Taylor the Crypt

[00:12:32] Walton core that sort of thing those were really gruesome and oh yeah

[00:12:37] really and but there was always a sense of Poe justice at the end

[00:12:43] I saw the same things in the in the show but but they go from

[00:12:48] seeing somebody decapitated to what I saw was a little bit of a

[00:12:53] step down that way but you the writing was solid the acting

[00:12:57] was solid and I'll go a step further John Kaseer did a fantastic

[00:13:02] job sublime as the Cryptkeeper one of the things that I noticed

[00:13:07] right off the bat was that so much of the stuff that he did remind

[00:13:12] me of Albert Hitchcock presents and the outfit Hitchcock did

[00:13:18] before his black return Hitchcock is even in one of those

[00:13:23] episodes I think Zemeckis does he recreate some there's

[00:13:27] nods to cuckoo's nest and hammer horror and even the shining

[00:13:31] in a few different ones but like you say it's just even if it's

[00:13:35] not as gruesome as the comic it's just you still get a reward

[00:13:38] at the end where you just like see this is a successful

[00:13:41] taking out the cookie out of the jar and being like man that

[00:13:45] was a hell of a delicious eat yeah and and the other thing

[00:13:50] that I kind of go back on is going forward I almost there

[00:13:55] was a robotic skeleton on the late show with Craig Ferguson

[00:14:01] and Peterson and I got vibe to that too. I was like it's

[00:14:07] I got a serious vibe to that. It's like the most like the

[00:14:11] first second season they were kind of playing along with it

[00:14:14] and then they perfected it and then with Jeff Peterson it's

[00:14:17] like they went backwards. Yeah great effect but the whole

[00:14:23] thing is just I that they that had to be a really tight

[00:14:28] production to be honest. It really was know your stuff. The

[00:14:32] producers were really awesome at letting the guys have as much

[00:14:37] freedom as they want but if nothing had been filmed for free

[00:14:39] hours that's when they would come over the hardest one to do

[00:14:42] apparently was the one Toby Hooper did the thing I think

[00:14:45] about when I think of that show is first off the music is

[00:14:48] Danny Elfman right. Oh great theme there's so many

[00:14:51] treasure the Sierra Madre kind of tells of just you know people

[00:14:55] with greed just getting the best of them. Yeah. Yeah there's

[00:14:59] plenty of winners. There was one episode I wasn't crazy about

[00:15:02] but at the end it's worth it because they actually have

[00:15:04] the Crypt Keeper sawing Joel Silver and half of the chainsaw.

[00:15:08] Oh wow. It was kind of their very meta is like okay you're

[00:15:11] going to be an asshole bossing us around we're going to have

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[00:16:32] cool cats check them out yeah and it's just just

[00:16:41] listening off the you remember this episode with so on

[00:16:43] so on so I'm just I've been listening and just hearing

[00:16:46] all the names that were tied to this so many great TV

[00:16:50] actors even martial artists and B movie stars making rare

[00:16:54] mainstream appearances yeah to be to be corny but I could say

[00:16:59] that that was a killer role right there yeah absolutely you're

[00:17:04] gonna you're gonna have to tell me who the guy is but

[00:17:07] there's in the matrix there's a guy who betrays everybody

[00:17:10] yeah Joe Pintoliano yeah that's the one with he's in that

[00:17:13] episode Joe Pesci and it's just a small part Richard Donner

[00:17:17] reunion in a way but yeah they make use of the radio

[00:17:19] stuff quite a lot yeah I'm just amazed to just listen to some

[00:17:24] of the you guys talk about some of the episodes and think

[00:17:26] you're well this kind of relates to this show or this

[00:17:29] kind of relates to this movie as it's like but in a good way

[00:17:31] without being in a very good way yeah they're not ripping

[00:17:36] them you're not ripping off anybody they're copying

[00:17:38] based on your mom just to it and so they have elevated

[00:17:42] the original source material I was kind of pissed that

[00:17:45] they're not putting on streaming yeah ridiculous like there's no

[00:17:50] reason for anyone to I mean they can you imagine how much

[00:17:53] money they'd make it seems like Kaseer owns the rights to his

[00:17:57] persona so he can go in person and voice the

[00:18:00] Crypt Keeper but it's like the comic book Joel Silver and

[00:18:03] HBO aren't flipping and aren't making it clear who owns

[00:18:07] what but it would make crazy yeah it would kill it's kind

[00:18:10] of it's kind of sad yeah I watched some episodes on

[00:18:12] YouTube tonight but it was kind of you know poor video tape quality

[00:18:17] yeah there were plenty of them where I saw the logo and I'm

[00:18:20] like I gotta get a different kind of this is bad

[00:18:23] and I'm I'm kind of ambivalent about it on the one hand I think

[00:18:28] you're I think you're right it would do gangbusters or

[00:18:31] it was on streaming the other side the coin I'm seeing is

[00:18:35] would there be enough of a of a new audience to sit down

[00:18:39] and watch an anthology show that where it does take a little bit of time to develop

[00:18:44] and maybe doesn't have that quick payoff versus I look at from you have like say

[00:18:51] you have a 30-minute show you can do one 30th episode

[00:18:54] minus for commercials or you can do two or three 10 to 15-minute episodes with

[00:19:02] with commercials that is very true and pretty much like who's lying every

[00:19:06] episode come or an average sitcom every episode literally breaks down to 20 minutes

[00:19:11] if you don't include the theme and yeah and I'm also looking at the standpoint of

[00:19:16] like an attention span kind of thing we have people who know who who's a lot who live on

[00:19:20] TikTok yeah unfortunately yeah yeah so okay so that will truly limits what what the show can do

[00:19:28] I know there's a new creep show tv show

[00:19:32] yeah I have seen it I didn't really care to you but I think what you say is a lot of truth

[00:19:39] it's there is audience out there but you're not sure how much of it could still stop

[00:19:44] someone from just picking their phone up and it's like well these that's how this works there's no

[00:19:50] reversing it there's no yeah you have to let the story breathe you can't just do it in it

[00:19:58] do a redacted version where the creeper shows up for three seconds you have one person getting

[00:20:05] killed and then there's a sloppy ending it doesn't work like that you need to absolutely for the

[00:20:09] story to breathe instead of accusing him hey it ended too fast it's like well you cut out all the

[00:20:14] development I think the closest you're gonna get now with HBO if you want to talk to noir

[00:20:21] looking like morality tell with dark comedy I think Barry's probably the closest yeah if you

[00:20:26] want to go to actual dark fantasy horror sci-fi probably the canceled lovecraft country might

[00:20:33] be the closest well the thing I always said about is tales is tales from the crypt is

[00:20:39] you go back five years before that it was tales from the dark side yes that's right

[00:20:44] John Harrison Romero's right-hand man actually worked on both yeah shows so and then if you

[00:20:50] go back even more the gallows humor comes from creep show yes yes if you watch creep show

[00:20:57] and creep not the second one but the first one yes there's a lot of humor in that you know

[00:21:03] is that the one that has Ted dance in it yeah Stephen King yep yep and I can hold my breath for a long

[00:21:09] time

[00:21:13] whoopsie where's my cake

[00:21:18] yeah just rare kind of off-color stuff man that's a good point too though I think if you did it

[00:21:24] nowadays they would pick a comedian who's too distracting or not good at narrating or they

[00:21:29] would just be too gross like in your face to where you're like like this is just dumb

[00:21:36] yeah and then you'll you also have to worry about the subject matter too because some of the stuff

[00:21:41] that's covered entails and tales from the crypt I'm not sure how much but which fly today

[00:21:48] yeah a lot of political correctness kind of stuff you could do the adultery but yeah there would

[00:21:53] be ones where it's like someone's been a stripper since they were like 17 and then there's other

[00:21:58] ones like you say incest or home invasions that are just very unnerving and too realistic

[00:22:04] yeah and um beyond that um we're gonna have people who are going to be freaked out by I mean

[00:22:11] you have people right now who are saying that Seinfeld was offensive

[00:22:15] oh come on seriously I serious I can understand not liking friends but don't tell me Seinfeld

[00:22:22] is an asshole oh my god I think they're getting the person mixed up with the comedian

[00:22:26] but I'm sorry the damage is done he's a good comedian it's not even the comedian it's

[00:22:31] it's the entire show same thing with friends they're upset that friends wasn't more diverse

[00:22:36] so that was a that'd be another stumbling blocky I think the only way diverse oh my god yeah we have

[00:22:43] we have a blonde a brunette are you sure Tyler was dating both Joey and Ross what else do you want

[00:22:50] oh my god ridiculous I'll never get that I'll never get that it's like there's someone who's

[00:22:58] late to the party but wants to just keep nagging nagging nagging nagging and it's just like uh

[00:23:05] yeah you're beating a dead horse and where were you when I needed you I think the lecture yeah

[00:23:10] about the yeah the only the only way I think you could even do chance undercooked today would be

[00:23:17] would be more of a more about direct um streaming service more I don't see like a

[00:23:24] shutter or shutter can do it um I think a shout would be good amazon would be pretty cool um

[00:23:31] there's there are some other ones I mean I would but how funny would it be if Clyde Barker

[00:23:39] helped out oh then you really have a morality tell it's the pinhead and creep keeper hour

[00:23:46] yeah my face is not funny oh yes it is there you just jumped in the one the only movie reviewer

[00:23:55] Jonathan mark is here to share some awesome stories of the creep keeper how you been

[00:24:00] I've been good perfect how about y'all we've been kind of going into some of our favorite episodes

[00:24:05] um we'll let you share how you came across the show post 90s post 2000s well it's really my dad's

[00:24:13] co-worker who was a huge fan of the show time oh he scared the hell out of me because he had the

[00:24:18] creep keeper up in masking his car he wow he kind of scared the show I mean they are

[00:24:27] method acting yeah I'm like thanks so it's it's got me for years before I could watch the show

[00:24:36] um

[00:24:38] and finally I did when I was sitting at high yeah there you go nice get it eventually

[00:24:43] become a big fan I scared with demon night as well so yep we haven't talked enough about that

[00:24:49] movie it's like you know say what you want about the other ones it's like people seem to

[00:24:53] really love this one it didn't take off this first release but now people quote it they love

[00:24:58] the villains and the cast and it's certainly the better of the two yeah totally from dustle

[00:25:05] dawn totally ate this movie almost a tips tails Mcriff movie right it was set so this is a good time

[00:25:12] to talk about that the frighteners and from dustle dawn and a few other ones were meant to

[00:25:17] originally be episodes or movies and uh the right the film respected filmmakers all moved away

[00:25:23] and said we're not waiting for silver besters to adapt this

[00:25:27] which I don't blame them especially how Joe Silva is the producer yeah something else

[00:25:32] I wonder if the AI he was showing at was in the creep keeper's voice for that recent

[00:25:37] getting fired from Amazon story what why do I remember a couple of years ago like they were

[00:25:46] going on somebody was going on somebody put something on Facebook saying it's coming back

[00:25:52] I think they were building up the hype like him nice Shyamalan was supposed to do a TNT version

[00:25:57] that never took off and then I think people were we've been talking so much about social media and

[00:26:02] how today's audiences would destroy the show because they're not patient I think some people

[00:26:08] loved it but they were talking about it on social media they were gonna redo it

[00:26:14] and I think John Kaseere was bored to do it and then it just it just fizzled out

[00:26:20] that sucks I don't know why it's so hard which to happen right we're still trying to figure out

[00:26:27] the rights and I thank you again John for introducing me so that tells from the Crip podcast how not

[00:26:31] to make a movie in dads it's just so many great stories from all these great storytellers

[00:26:37] yeah I don't know what how you would use it now but it seems like the comic book firm and

[00:26:44] is holding steady HBO lost the rights but I don't know if Jill Silver still owns any stake in it

[00:26:49] I'd like to know but like they had a lawyer friend on dads from the Crip to debate it and he

[00:26:56] still said it was very murky who owns what yeah it's like a superman you know for a while

[00:27:02] they didn't know who owned it really was it EC was it snow

[00:27:06] the salt guys had their hands on it at one time too I'm not sure oh wow

[00:27:11] and we all know how that turned out Marvel took over Malibu everyone buying each other

[00:27:17] everybody's owned by somebody if memory serves I think DC took over the EC comic stuff

[00:27:24] yeah they did that would make better sense yeah because they do publish bad magazine now too

[00:27:31] what might which if you really think about it you could do a mad

[00:27:36] a dark comedy version of mad with the crew

[00:27:44] go for it just do it yeah DC wanted to do a streaming service I think Kail through

[00:27:50] group would be with fit right into that kind of thought that they already have a

[00:27:53] they did it briefly then they shut it down and merged it with HBO Max but like you say

[00:28:01] you got to fire the vice president of programming first if you want anything to change though

[00:28:05] I would be so mad to be working for that company now I mean how do you make so many movies that

[00:28:11] will never be released legally and you can't put it on your resume or use

[00:28:15] demo real footage I would be angry as I'll get out like what what you take on Kaseer's voice

[00:28:22] why does it appeal so much like why is it so dead funny unintended when you're a kid

[00:28:28] and you see a horror movie you know there's like they do but you see those horror anthology movies for

[00:28:33] a horror hammer yes it was always some British guy like a dark robe going you know you know

[00:28:39] and here comes this you know this is like this high pitched you know you know like you know

[00:28:47] this like the ratings yeah kind of voice you know it's like R rated Scooby-Doo in a way kind of yeah

[00:28:54] and it's like you know you're watching him and you're like you're trying hard not to be frightened

[00:29:00] but it's disarming the voice is disarming it really does lend your defenses down shields lower

[00:29:06] take me on a ride take me on a journey it's a lot like a roller coaster because you're

[00:29:12] you're getting seated in and you know you're gonna have fun so you're really happy at the very

[00:29:16] beginning so you're when the when the scares come then it's like wow you were yeah it acts as a

[00:29:25] for lack of dirt from a palette cleanser it really does it'd be funny to do a survey of how many people

[00:29:32] were frightened to death versus piss themselves laughing when they first saw it it'd be funny

[00:29:37] to do a survey like that I I always liked that you know to me there was always you know horror

[00:29:42] camp yeah so you're just like wow here's his lair and here he's doing crazy shit and it's gonna

[00:29:49] have something to foreshadow what tell he's going to share with us yeah it's so much fun

[00:29:56] army of darkness would have fit in well with this world you know I'm really surprised with all

[00:30:01] we were talking about the early guys they used like Stephen Hopkins and Russell Mulcahy I am really

[00:30:06] surprised that Bruce Campbell Bruce Campbell or Sam Raimi didn't get a chance but I don't know Joe Dante

[00:30:14] should have been here yeah I'm surprised Bruce Campbell wasn't on an episode of the show oh yeah I

[00:30:19] at least not from my member we checked the closest we got was Tim Curry and a few other cold actors

[00:30:25] with Sam Raimi's brother Ted in any by any chance let me check the closest we seem to have is Kevin

[00:30:32] Yeager but yeah Ted Raimi he was in a straight to video anthology called tells from the crapper so

[00:30:40] okay that's by Deloitte confident oh my god oh my god James Gunn is in there as himself uh freaking

[00:30:47] Trey Parker from South Park wow I hope I not heard of this shit wow I was afraid to find that one

[00:30:53] I am afraid to find out yes was Craven plays himself wow okay uh the things you learned doing

[00:31:00] research there was a tells from the crypt movie in the 70s right so yeah does it even remember who

[00:31:06] was in Peter Cushing John Collins John Collins was in John Collins and yeah Peter Cushing yeah yeah

[00:31:13] and there's also uh the vault of horror which is another one that that came out from amicus

[00:31:20] from another ec line and that one had Tom Baker in it there you go I just knew we were

[00:31:30] there you go yeah true yeah Cushing we are some of your favorite guest stars John

[00:31:37] yeah Jen Nelson yeah there's so many I can aim off the top it's a puzzle piece in a way seems like the

[00:31:43] curry and rib one got a lot of favor in this episode so that's fun even if one's just flat out lousy I

[00:31:49] never have any regrets you know just because they're doing something none of us can do not from

[00:31:56] pretty lame then I'm just like still that that was fun yeah I'd like to see it come back but

[00:32:02] I think it's already immortalized people are showing kind of like Howard we were talking

[00:32:07] Mr. Science Theater earlier it's the same kind of thing people circulate the tapes and just laugh

[00:32:11] their asses off at it still yeah I think people would be disappointed in whatever new one they

[00:32:17] try to create it wouldn't be the same that's also a possibility I suppose I think I mean

[00:32:27] yeah probably I would like to actually see the South Park creators actually

[00:32:33] try something with it or someone else who does a cartoon show and just see if they have some

[00:32:39] off-color humor but it might be too much for zone good I don't know I think we have a pitch for

[00:32:45] South Park in studios there you go but even night is a perfect party movie like it's so

[00:32:52] laid back without being too lowbrow it's just very straightforward and the cast is dynamite

[00:32:58] you know you got freaking cch pounder and and uh yeah uh and uh what's her name the heroine of the

[00:33:07] story yeah uh jade pinkett and yep jade pinkett before she was really saying that yep yep yep

[00:33:14] he was the Billy's day and William Sadler yep yeah and Sadler is the unlikely hero and I like how

[00:33:22] zane is literally kind of the terminator warlock she's just going to town he's just time to play

[00:33:29] time to play yeah yeah zane was really like eating up the scenery in that movie absolutely there

[00:33:35] was no taking it down a notch but it seems like everyone had fun making that one on like again

[00:33:40] the next one and it sucks because portillo was kind of my intro to it I'm like this should be entertaining

[00:33:47] but it's really frankly boring and I've heard good things about this show so yeah as a warning

[00:33:52] it's a prime example of the behind the scenes of it being better than the movie itself so

[00:33:59] absolutely even the ones that were in the unofficial fox pilot that never got picked up

[00:34:03] that had a young brad pit is like a beatnik and the Kurt Douglas Lance Henrykson

[00:34:10] pass a glory tribute those were pretty good but and were later included as episodes on the show

[00:34:17] however the one with that frank darabont of sha shang fame that he writes that has david

[00:34:23] morris in a western that one is just so perplexing and like it begins then it just ends I'm like

[00:34:29] what the fuck just happened it was the longest viewing of the flat it was the longest escape

[00:34:37] I'm surprised Freeman wasn't on here be perfect sometimes you show that last forever

[00:34:48] sometimes you make a TV show that won't be on streaming because you don't know who all the

[00:34:54] rats and you free knew who those rats were from but he didn't say anything to anybody

[00:35:01] get busy slaughtering or get busy dying

[00:35:07] were you guys fans of john casier and others forms I heard his voice so many times when playing

[00:35:12] a hot shot stoff growing up I can't even picture the face of the guy so I don't know

[00:35:18] he's a bearded kind of individual but he's done so many voiceovers you probably have

[00:35:22] heard him in a disney or Pixar or thing but at the time he's like additional dialogue recording

[00:35:27] but in hot shots golf he was great because when you're getting tired of people taking too long to

[00:35:33] swing the puck swing the golf ball you can start trolling them and he's one of the voices

[00:35:41] saying you can do it so I feel like he if there's any signature style for him he's

[00:35:49] like the likable internet troll he's riffing on you and then justifying his existence by being so

[00:35:57] clever ritual which was the third on official movie everyone doing themselves a favor and never watch

[00:36:03] that one I see it's on that's on his thing it's so bad like the puppet and mouth and voice don't

[00:36:10] even match up and Kim Curry's coincidentally in that one too he's like the head of this island

[00:36:14] where people are killing each other it's like it's trying to be like a gothic mystery but it's

[00:36:18] like come on Jennifer Gray you don't have to be in this shit oh it's bad it's like it was in

[00:36:26] development hell for like six years and they just released a directive video no one like

[00:36:32] face frightening frightening I would like to see the wishmaster host another reiteration of

[00:36:38] Crip he and the keeper would get along pretty well you know that you know when you think about

[00:36:45] too the crypt keeper himself you know we introduce it and they do the outro yes it was kind of like

[00:36:52] he was he was us you know absolutely we would be thinking of like you know if somebody thought

[00:36:59] that's that that's it means like he's like our subconscious you know he's the subconscious

[00:37:04] he's the voyeur and the main theme is all elfman but if you hear it with the theme when it

[00:37:12] exits out every episode it almost in a way sounds a bit like a demented twilight zone

[00:37:22] and and think about it is that in the comics that's what the Crip keeper was he was the one who

[00:37:29] introduced the story thinking it was the point of reference he was the gatekeeper

[00:37:36] yeah oh he might want to relock his gates just about everyone visited his castle

[00:37:43] there is no jano only do

[00:37:48] I'll put in more more play for the amicus version of the film if you are an anthology buff like I am

[00:37:56] you will get a lot of enjoyment out of it and just every little piece is really well done

[00:38:02] so it's also a good point to involve a poor too yeah just for the sheer fact that

[00:38:07] its anthologies done well there's even times where some x-files episodes and even the dentist movies

[00:38:14] and trilogy of terror always feel to me like they could have gotten a Crip treatment at one point

[00:38:20] exactly but if you're looking for the kind of bizarre humor you can't the TV show is where

[00:38:26] you're gonna is where you want to be but if you're more the anthology side definitely check

[00:38:30] out the 70s movies absolutely for a show that starts off slow it gains your attention like you

[00:38:36] were looking forward to it you're laughing like a maniac even when it's too over the top there's just

[00:38:41] something very shameless about it I would defy anytime john gaseer made an appearance on robot

[00:38:47] chicken playing reprising the Crip keeper too because it was just like perfect even more dark humor

[00:38:52] there you go get stuff green either that or idle hands too now don't do that

[00:39:00] that's pretty bad

[00:39:05] idle hands too is bad you shouldn't watch idle hands too good

[00:39:14] mr hanky I'm mr mafie good

[00:39:17] mr mafie you shouldn't get me confused with somebody else okay

[00:39:29] we'll say sometimes the Crip keeper will die

[00:39:35] there you go let's get stuff McFarlane here now hey Peter you want to go see the Crip

[00:39:41] I don't know quite why sir I did something to me the last time

[00:39:45] what do you do yeah uh yeah show me his bone

[00:39:51] no it's bone like his bone on his leg that's a great Peter

[00:39:55] yeah it is oh well you know I'm showing my bone a lot of women wait wait wait wait wait

[00:40:03] it's been a minute since I've watched that show but apparently I'm so I don't know if they've

[00:40:07] made fun of Crip but I know at one point Brian the dog is like surfing through HBO Max and then he

[00:40:13] finds a clip so real sex and he's like why is this not on there oh Jesus why Jesus surprised

[00:40:19] no one else is gonna get that reference

[00:40:22] then come to Hawaii and the next time cloud nine all new real sex nine premiere Saturday

[00:40:37] August 13th on HBO

[00:40:41] but yeah HBO is like almost an animal farm at times where you're like yep it's on there I don't know why

[00:40:48] HBO during the 90s if you wanted to see like weird shit right you would wait

[00:40:53] clap tails for the crypt is done yes and then you watch real sex and you'd be like

[00:40:59] what in the name of holy fuck is this I'm sure that in your group I'm still looking

[00:41:04] for this bizarre like cover up of like a couple who like hides their friends accidental death after

[00:41:11] a sex party and people start betraying each other and I keep asking about it everyone's like oh are

[00:41:16] you referencing go are you talking about very bad things I'm like nope no no this is a way more

[00:41:21] obscure and I think you're talking about my life oh there you go yeah it's a Belclin story

[00:41:30] oh man oh that took a dark turn

[00:41:34] oh shit but yeah I feel like people don't really know how to do shock value it seems like Tarantino

[00:41:41] is the only one they let loose because somehow even the dumbest person knows what they're in for

[00:41:46] I don't know how you know look at the room I'll take I'll take super I would say if they

[00:41:50] ever make another tails of the clip movie and God knows they should make it Robert Rodriguez

[00:41:55] directing it well maybe yeah planet terror is as close to an episode of

[00:42:03] of tales from the crypt as you could get without it being stamped approved when having giant

[00:42:10] kaseer showing up and saying hi kid I got now I'm remembering when you know Quentin Tarantino's

[00:42:18] parts were falling off wow you're just like seeing this you know goop of skin falling down

[00:42:27] from between his legs oh man whenever he dies on screen it's the best

[00:42:33] oh no wait a bit bordella blood that was the Dennis Miller one where unfortunately yeah

[00:42:38] sure with chat chat could get this we're gonna have chris serandon but he's not playing a vampire

[00:42:44] this time get it Corey Hime or Feldman he's gonna play a vampire this time get it Dennis Miller

[00:42:51] that here's why every why he doesn't work in this movie apparently he refused to follow any line of

[00:42:57] the script he just wanted to do his improvised stand-up bit I'm like my god and then he wanted

[00:43:02] people to party with him when they wrapped that movie and then he ditched it on his HBO

[00:43:07] talk show I'm like for real you're the reason it didn't work who was the woman that wasn't

[00:43:12] and oh yes oh I watch everything she's in but what and she ever heard oh yeah yeah oh yes

[00:43:25] she reminds me of and thought the real very fun but Eric Oliniak kind of just really hated making

[00:43:33] it because like they kept rewriting her storyline to where she's like I'm gonna just suck it up

[00:43:37] and get this over with let's check from ET but that's not what anybody remembers her from oh that's

[00:43:43] right understage my bad that's true speaking of the spillboard connection did you guys know that

[00:43:48] originally spillboard wanted to do something with a crypt keeper but still silver was an

[00:43:53] asshole and held him up yeah I didn't know that I know that oh yeah it's on the podcast

[00:43:58] introduced me too but it's just so funny he's like man that's just something you just don't do

[00:44:04] you don't hold up the best filmmaker of all time sure I'm gonna buy a house for Kate

[00:44:10] and I'm gonna I'm gonna make you a star I'm gonna do an awesome war movie everyone will get paid it'll

[00:44:15] be fun that's my spillboard I'm not sure it's much of an impression but whatever

[00:44:22] there you go it's gotta be a little jimmy stewardish yeah so I had this idea to make a

[00:44:27] movie about like you know the great thing about making you too was you know oh it's funny there

[00:44:32] there are some indiana jones moments on this show also at times oh yeah yeah there's the one way

[00:44:38] down to michael hall which is kind of a like it or hated episode where it's almost like they're

[00:44:43] spoofing ferris buehler and john hughes for like the first hour and then at the end

[00:44:46] they find out there's like a giant vault with a tunnel behind the library here's like that's

[00:44:52] weird okay and I already mentioned short round but yeah there's plenty of gremlins moments and

[00:45:00] I think yeah gizmo and the crypt keeper would definitely get along gizmo you probably scared

[00:45:04] of it at first yeah I was mentioning earlier john how I don't think fairy or lung craft

[00:45:12] country would exist without this show people act like it's the first show that broke the rules

[00:45:17] I think it was just the one that broke the rules well because there was plenty of other

[00:45:20] risque stuff on there oh yeah yeah football tv shows where you're like what's going on I do think

[00:45:26] Oz was the most to it especially how the narrator in the wheelchair just opens up you know I mean

[00:45:33] there was there was dream on there was uh yeah first and 10 there you go that that's the football

[00:45:39] one yep that had what's her name from designing women in it uh Delta Delta work in

[00:45:47] and it's so funny how she's in more reserved material but she didn't start off and stuff like

[00:45:53] Chris Maloney was on it too is like everybody was on that show all I remember watching that show

[00:45:58] I'm thinking of myself you know ogre from revenge are the nurses in this show

[00:46:02] don't give yeah Donald give yep and I remember I remember they had oj simpson on his tv parker

[00:46:10] and I like yeah right is it then meanwhile 10 years later oh guess what I'm running away from the cops

[00:46:18] I love that impression that sounded like a keystone cops

[00:46:23] that was before he was on there before naked gun I think yeah it was before

[00:46:29] the adjunct and like the other one he's a good actor he fooled everyone oh yeah

[00:46:38] he fooled a jury of 12 people he fooled us

[00:46:43] my glove doesn't fit I guess I'm not guilty oh my god I don't want to see the grip keeper reenacted

[00:46:51] look it doesn't go on I'm free that's why I was so glad it was a referring gag on Seinfeld

[00:46:57] there was always that incompetent liar oh yeah uh Philip Morris got a little um yep

[00:47:08] it's a lie it's not true I'm doing it to win oh so very fun having you guys on here uh anything

[00:47:17] you guys would care to promote in any way any capacity I know James you're starting your

[00:47:21] podcast soon hopefully if I can find a free platform he's doing some reviews what kind of

[00:47:26] free platform could you record from though that's what I'm thinking what can I use you know

[00:47:31] Skype you can use um Streamard I think is a little more affordable it's like 15 bucks someone but okay

[00:47:40] yeah Streamard is is um it's okay it's very easy to use but it does have its hiccups so

[00:47:48] I might want just using Skype just doing it that way I'll be reflecting my John Curidean

[00:47:54] pressure over the next couple days oh my god so are you gonna bring the Mondo Fino again oh god

[00:48:13] oh man look at my past and it's going I'm sorry deep hurting deep hurting but I'm surprised he was

[00:48:22] coming up I have a techno remix I'll be doing coming up with next week oh dear and it's

[00:48:30] every year after I die which makes it even more present I know the oldest person they probably

[00:48:35] had on this show was uh what's her name from the monsters it was like one of her final roles

[00:48:41] I think they wanted to get Betty Davis on one at 1.2

[00:48:46] he died by then okay never mind I'm thinking of someone else but they were trying to get some famous

[00:48:52] star from the 40s but yeah right that might be it I think yeah well one of the monsters was on

[00:48:58] well one of the monsters I think they were trying to get uh you know what a little one do you want

[00:49:03] yeah no but the thing I love like I can't imagine Betty Davis doing like in the stroked out Betty

[00:49:10] Davis you know doing Tesla crypto I'm looking at the crypto keeper she could have probably done one of

[00:49:17] the there's like you could play the crypto keeper she could have been in one of that there's like

[00:49:24] it's like two different uh cuckoo's nest inspired episode she could probably have been in one of

[00:49:28] those but I don't know what a dump what's a dump you're fired

[00:50:05] some million for listening