Freak Out Week: Marvel Zombies Comic Books Overview (with Oreo Brewer)
The Jacked Up Review Show PodcastSeptember 02, 2024
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Freak Out Week: Marvel Zombies Comic Books Overview (with Oreo Brewer)

We begin the themed Freak Out Week by displaying plenty of grim adventures to review.

 

First on the docket, we got the MARVEL ZOMBIES comic book specials summed up.

 

Why did Ash Williams (from EVIL DEAD) not have anything useful to contribute here?

 

Which issue stood out in what was otherwise murky and filled with missed opportunities?

 

And which beloved characters were just undone by forced subplots and cheap shock value?

 

Find out, stay spooky & be groovy!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[00:00:32] But I did like...

[00:00:46] One of the Marvel Zombies in Army of Darkness one.

[00:00:49] Oh, fuck that, crawl server.

[00:00:52] Okay, so you were talking about the main Marvel Zombies?

[00:00:56] Yeah, Resurrection is the newest one they put out.

[00:01:00] Yeah, Army of Darkness crawl server was so stupid and misogynistic.

[00:01:05] I'm like, eh, thanks.

[00:01:08] I'm good.

[00:01:09] Age of Ultron vs. Marvel Zombies was cool.

[00:01:12] I consider that underrated.

[00:01:15] But yeah, Resurrection...

[00:01:19] It's a good premise.

[00:01:21] How did you feel Wolverine and Captain America were represented?

[00:01:27] Wolverine got fucked up.

[00:01:29] And he got fucked up.

[00:01:30] No, he really got fucked up in Resurrection.

[00:01:32] He really went to the door and said, what happened?

[00:01:34] I was surprised.

[00:01:38] But the main art for Marvel Zombies was really a shot.

[00:01:44] Because it had such a massive black twist to it.

[00:01:47] And I was so surprised by that.

[00:01:49] And I hate how they're like, oh, we're going to find a cure.

[00:01:53] We're going to find a cure.

[00:01:54] I'm like, fuck this.

[00:01:56] It's a zombie outbreak.

[00:01:58] There's never a god damn cure.

[00:02:01] Stop printing on the whole convention.

[00:02:03] Yeah, you've been watching all the X-Men movies on loop.

[00:02:05] We have a cure.

[00:02:07] Yeah, the fuck you do.

[00:02:09] That's when you know they didn't even watch...

[00:02:11] At least watch the 92 TV show.

[00:02:13] Come on out.

[00:02:14] Yeah, it's like, I have the cure.

[00:02:17] It's on this floppy disk.

[00:02:19] It's on my ass.

[00:02:22] You know what?

[00:02:23] Yeah, I've read some of the Army in Darkness one and I was just like...

[00:02:28] I don't feel like these people know Ash.

[00:02:30] I feel like they only watched casually one of the movies.

[00:02:35] I don't feel like they're emulating what we like about the dumb ass character.

[00:02:42] And I didn't like how they drew a lot of the gore and just the setup.

[00:02:46] Just, is there another dimension?

[00:02:50] Yeah.

[00:02:50] That they were spending so much time trying to draw it like the actor.

[00:02:55] And I'm like, yeah.

[00:02:57] This is not content.

[00:02:59] This is not substance.

[00:03:00] This is bird.

[00:03:02] But yeah, I've read some of these is it's a dark fucking art.

[00:03:08] It's really dark and it gets darker around, I want to say volume three.

[00:03:17] Yeah, I think volume three was the darkest part of that story.

[00:03:22] Because it really expands and goes further than just, you know, the main characters.

[00:03:28] And I loved how dark that shook up.

[00:03:32] Man, this is fucking twisted.

[00:03:34] But one movie that should be animated by Al, given it's been 27 years, is Superman Lives.

[00:03:46] I'm serious.

[00:03:48] You have all these different script choices.

[00:03:51] You have the original artwork still available.

[00:03:55] Why the fuck have they not cashed in on this shit?

[00:03:59] Like it's perfect.

[00:04:00] They kind of did with the flash.

[00:04:02] Yeah, I know.

[00:04:03] I saw that and then Nick Cage came out and he said that he filmed a different scene that wasn't in film.

[00:04:10] And I was like, oh, that's nice.

[00:04:13] And I like that.

[00:04:14] They basically did it without permission.

[00:04:16] No, basically, I liked it.

[00:04:18] It was nice.

[00:04:19] But I'm like, dude, you have a golden opportunity to cash in on this shit.

[00:04:24] And it's so perfect.

[00:04:27] Don't never do it.

[00:04:29] How do you feel like they're treating Daredevil?

[00:04:31] Because he's really stupid in the ash and zombies crossover where it's like, why are you attacking him?

[00:04:38] Does he look like a threat really?

[00:04:40] I know you're blind and all, but come on.

[00:04:42] And it is wild how he encounters Scarlet Witch and Spider-Man.

[00:04:47] And it's like, there's no way Sam Raimi didn't read this.

[00:04:51] Word.

[00:04:52] I like him working with the Punisher, but Kingpin entering the story is really lame.

[00:04:56] Like it's just not.

[00:04:59] It reminds me when I tried to read Secret Wars prelude and I could not get past.

[00:05:06] I couldn't even get past the, I got a quarter into it and just stopped because I couldn't concentrate enough on every voice talent for every character.

[00:05:16] That's how annoying it was.

[00:05:18] It was nice, but I didn't focus.

[00:05:21] I'm like, and then they're going to do Secret Wars as a film.

[00:05:25] I'm like, that's going to be fucked.

[00:05:28] I know it's going to be fucked.

[00:05:30] I know it because they fucked up the last couple of films.

[00:05:36] And this is the worst part about Marvel fucking up films and die hard.

[00:05:42] Can go cry to do the fuck over the worst part about Marvel.

[00:05:47] Any irony behind.

[00:05:49] Is before COVID hit, they always pandered to the cancer kits one dying kid gets to see the film before everybody else.

[00:05:59] Yeah, like the script of the story of the plot of fanboys.

[00:06:07] It's so dumb.

[00:06:08] You're going to pander that and then you make Thor Love and Thunder which down plays stage five cancer.

[00:06:16] Are you fucking stupid?

[00:06:19] Like, you can't take any of this lightly.

[00:06:23] I know it's dumb and they really put you that fucking story.

[00:06:26] They just need to stop humor.

[00:06:29] I mean, I keep going back to the Ash crossover and my issue was the humor was lame.

[00:06:35] Yeah, definitely.

[00:06:37] Yeah, it's an R rated.

[00:06:40] Yeah, and just constantly looking at Desmond's ass.

[00:06:43] Ash is not that horny.

[00:06:46] He does a tease and then he goes back to killing like it would be like if I don't know you had.

[00:06:52] And then.

[00:06:53] Blade going on vacation is like no blade is.

[00:06:56] It's to survive and his fancy car and gadgets he's not worried about.

[00:07:03] Going on a date and keeping his identity hidden.

[00:07:05] Yeah, that was how blade was in Marvel zombies was a reaction.

[00:07:10] He's literally he's like everybody's undead.

[00:07:13] I'm on vacation.

[00:07:14] I'm having a field day.

[00:07:15] I could kill everybody and not have to worry about shit.

[00:07:18] I'm like, that's what he does.

[00:07:21] Everybody's undead.

[00:07:22] He's killing them all.

[00:07:23] Let's not give you anything that you want.

[00:07:28] It's like fucking he's killing them all.

[00:07:30] Who cares?

[00:07:33] Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of people complain about some of these more recent incarnations.

[00:07:39] And I don't know how much of it is just.

[00:07:42] They hate how they're drawn versus.

[00:07:45] I don't like Jase.

[00:07:46] I don't like Jase that came.

[00:07:48] I don't want to style.

[00:07:51] I have fortunately avoided most of those, but I have heard shit about him before.

[00:07:56] And we're in like.

[00:07:57] He is the way he draws women and men.

[00:08:00] So.

[00:08:03] Especially the women they look like fucking.

[00:08:08] They look so bad.

[00:08:11] It's their body design and then it's the fact that the faces look so young.

[00:08:17] Like, for example, I read.

[00:08:19] And they don't do an intro to everybody.

[00:08:20] They just kind of just unleash him like.

[00:08:22] Yeah.

[00:08:23] Like the ash one was lame because you had storm and beasts who were all half zombies and.

[00:08:30] Yeah.

[00:08:31] Letting Dr. Doon live after making a point of we want to defeat you.

[00:08:36] I'm like, well, then what was the point?

[00:08:38] I know.

[00:08:39] Well, captured Polaris for nothing.

[00:08:42] I mean, by now she's turned already.

[00:08:44] And then ash goes back to staring at people's bodies.

[00:08:46] So she's like, oh my God.

[00:08:48] Yeah.

[00:08:49] And then it adds even more to.

[00:08:51] I'm sure how horny some of these comic book guys are in words like my God just going to do.

[00:08:56] Well, Marvel hired an entire and didn't know it.

[00:09:01] I think I did hear about that.

[00:09:03] And which one was that?

[00:09:06] I forget the dude's name.

[00:09:08] But there was another guy who was being a douche and he would just like harass every female intern.

[00:09:12] Doers like my God, dude, just try your fucking cartoons and leave every.

[00:09:17] Give me a massage on set.

[00:09:19] Oh God.

[00:09:21] It was.

[00:09:26] I need some subway with my massage.

[00:09:30] My massage.

[00:09:34] Oh, yeah.

[00:09:38] The one comic I read recently where they don't know how to draw a draw a kid is Drax the destroyer or fall.

[00:09:48] Like it's a good it's an average story.

[00:09:52] But the girl Cammy is supposed to be a 10 year old.

[00:09:58] And I look at her face and she looks like she's 27.

[00:10:02] And I get why she looks like she's 47 because this was the same time that Phoenix and song and war song had come out, which was a great collab between Top Cow Productions, artists and Marvel.

[00:10:17] I love that.

[00:10:18] It's great biology.

[00:10:19] But you can tell who the guy was Keith.

[00:10:24] Who drew the face like.

[00:10:28] It's like his is not how a 10 year old is.

[00:10:32] Look, you know, 10 year old is supposed to be that attractive.

[00:10:36] Like, move on, make them look young. They're supposed to be useful. Me and my friend Dex is it looks like a 10 year old.

[00:10:46] Yes.

[00:10:47] It's like, yeah, pedals.

[00:10:51] Or they were trying to emulate the other artists style and just got lost in translation.

[00:10:56] I hate it.

[00:11:01] Yeah.

[00:11:02] They love to repeat themselves.

[00:11:04] Yeah, definitely. Like it's the same face and that's what it was. Same place.

[00:11:10] Because you see that same face a lot. Like if you recognize colors, lines and backgrounds, you're like, okay, I know who I'm reading.

[00:11:24] I recognize this shit.

[00:11:26] Or if you're new to the game, don't recognize that haven't come across it. Then it's a whole new experience for you. But if you're used to someone's style for so long and you look for it and see it like,

[00:11:38] Oh, yeah, that's just and tracks that Earthfall was all right. Damn.

[00:11:52] And I bought that comic too. I bought that ages ago and I only read it twice over.

[00:12:02] Next.

[00:12:04] Yeah, I'm I like Bautista, but I hate people who are just like, I only know him from that. I'm like, he's done way better stuff since.

[00:12:10] Word in this comic came out in 2006. So long before guardians was even thought.

[00:12:19] That's what I like about knowing comments and shows that, you know, I've read all this shit. I know what happens.

[00:12:27] And then the movie adaptation comes out and then the movies dog shit and I'm like, hey, you changed everything.

[00:12:36] That's why I don't like Civil War. That movie can go fuck itself.

[00:12:41] I hate that move.

[00:12:44] It's the best Marvel crossover ever. No, it's not.

[00:12:48] Unless you're a little kid who's growing up on MCU. Yeah, okay, I get that. But for someone who's read the entire arc of Civil War. No, it's not that good. It's trash.

[00:12:59] It's trash that can go burn itself.

[00:13:04] And no, to get in the whole of Prince purified ain't going to help it.

[00:13:11] Anyway, what's next for us?

[00:13:14] Oh, I bet that's pretty much it we just came up with two episodes on this one.

[00:13:19] I we're definitely going to do a big one talking about some of the main crossovers and I'll keep.

[00:13:26] We're not sure you're more in fucking serious Jesus.

[00:13:29] I'm we're going to definitely line up a lot of the main DC and Marvel ones. I just got to have other people get out their ass and read it and I got to do the same.

[00:13:37] I got to get up my ass and read them and don't worry.

[00:13:41] It doesn't take long for a lot of those.

[00:13:43] It's just mainly but I'm definitely going to put the the AVP ones like in one big S1, you know, so the Batman Superman, the Witchblade, Terminator and Robocops is like those are good crosser.

[00:14:00] Definitely some underage gems.

[00:14:01] The worst. Yeah, the worst crosser out of which leads JLA.

[00:14:08] Yep. I can't wait to take on it. The Magnus robotic fighter, the other predator and Tarzan and it's going to be interesting reading the snake eyes one that's in fortnight where he fights Batman on an island.

[00:14:22] It's going to be interesting seeing the other Judge Dred ones and it is wild how Archie took on the predator and as a result they did one with Sharknado, the Punisher and kiss as well.

[00:14:35] So I'm glad you added the Vampirella one. I'm going to add that to the docket and but I'm really looking forward to the painkiller Jane and Terminator one and that was good.

[00:14:46] That was really good.

[00:14:47] There we go. You heard from him folks. There's a tease.

[00:14:52] There's a lot about I'm looking at the whole crosser list now. I'm like, yeah, I read a bunch of these.

[00:15:01] Yeah, I've read. I'm going alphabetically in AVP crosser is a red except for Terminator.

[00:15:12] Who would you like to fight if you were a comic book character?

[00:15:18] Magneto.

[00:15:20] He's like, I like my native.

[00:15:22] I do think he'd die. Would you just throw him into the sun?

[00:15:27] De magnetize him with some powers or something?

[00:15:31] I don't know. Like the fact he's not like I know he's being showcased in X-Men 97. I know that I haven't watched a series yet.

[00:15:41] I mean, I'm kind of trying. I'm reluctant because I kind of don't want to ruin the memories of.

[00:15:49] Yeah, she.

[00:15:51] I don't know how about just awesome original show?

[00:15:56] Yeah, because I remember when they announced that the show we got fired over is only fanship, which was so stupid.

[00:16:05] I would.

[00:16:06] Yeah, the show runner for X-Men 97 got fired. They let him go because of his own fans.

[00:16:14] Each.

[00:16:15] So dumb.

[00:16:17] Smoking and watching cartoons or was he actually showing?

[00:16:21] Didn't like it. What he was doing. I don't know what he was doing. They said this content was disturbing.

[00:16:27] I'm like, okay. So I was I've been talking to Jerry Gayward, one of the comic artists who worked on everyone's got stories.

[00:16:40] Yeah, he worked on X-Men 97. I like his work. It's really fun.

[00:16:46] And I want to hurt that.

[00:16:50] Yeah, Dwayne got fine. I messaged him right away. Like, or use your job safe for you. Okay.

[00:16:56] You know, I don't want you to get in trouble or anything. He's like, yeah, I'm done. I moved on from that. But yeah, hearing about that is pretty shocking.

[00:17:03] Sounds like.

[00:17:05] That's what I'm that. I'm glad you bring it up, dude. And this is why I like you actually legit as a person, you look at the bigger picture, but you go beyond that.

[00:17:13] Like, I am always like, for instance, like Cosby show when that little scandal went, it's shit like.

[00:17:23] So was the get in your things.

[00:17:25] You're fired and everyone finding other disturbing stuff he had had in his standup prior that went over our heads.

[00:17:30] I was more.

[00:17:32] Well, most people were like, well, that's part of my childhood ruin. I was more annoyed because I'm like, but that's supporting cast wish Rashad Malcolm Jamo, you know, Mr. Bonnet, like I feel some more sorry for them.

[00:17:44] Yeah, because as a result of that being taken off, it would be they lost the residuals.

[00:17:50] I bingo. And I mean, that's it would be like if someone on the love boat or gunsmoke or about one five if one of them came out.

[00:18:00] Yeah, that would ruin it for the rest of them because then they would be, you know, that's like the first thing that's on their resume that they get I noticed for and so then it would be like you say awkward if they went to a convention and they had to change poster, you know, it's just and people

[00:18:17] like I see people so inconsistent like, oh, that's a problem or no, that's not.

[00:18:24] People will cherry pick what the problem really is.

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