Crazy William Shatner Movies Review (with James Bruno, Tony Jantz & Daniel Ryan)

[00:00:00] This podcast is a production of Unfiltered Studios. If you would like to know more about joining Unfiltered Studios, please visit our website at unfpod.com for more information. Well, you all know my first guest is Captain James T. Kirk from Star Trek. Let me ask you about something, because I was talking at the top of the show about this celebrity boxing match. Yeah. And then I heard that you were really into paintball. Yeah.

[00:00:26] And that you're going to organize some kind of celebrity paintball tournament. Is this right? No, it's not celebrity necessarily. I mean, we need 4,000 people. So there's only 3,500 celebrities and we need about 500 ordinary people. But you're getting celebrities to participate. Like you. I want you to participate. It's outside of Chicago. It's for charity. And it's going to be like 4,000 people in paintball. Well, I need to know what other celebrities are involved so I know is this the kind of caliber event that Conan O'Brien can step into.

[00:00:56] John Tesh said he wanted to be in it. I'm building. I'm building. Building. I'm building. Larry King said he wanted to be in it. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Larry King's going to be running around the woods with a paintball rifle? What's wrong with that? You got a problem with Larry King? He's like a 90-year-old man. I know. I mean, I like Larry King, but he's going to be running around going like, a call from Missoula Falls. You know, he can't be doing that. Then you can kill him. You can hit him with a paintball.

[00:01:24] If I get a chance to shoot at Larry King, I'm going to be in on this thing. Exactly. I mean, he's standing still trying to catch his breath. Bang! I would love having my sights on a tree and then like sort of Larry King leans out with those glasses. Right. Bang! Exactly. Right in the head. Right. A red ball of paint goes.

[00:01:46] So what's wrong with that? Then I asked Charlton Heston. I thought, head of the NRA. He's going to do it. Yes. Is he going to do it? Moses. No, he can't do it. Well, it would be great if he did it. You know what I would do? What would you do? You'd do it. I would have a gorilla head hidden in my jacket. And when I cornered him, I'd put it on and he'd be like, no! You'd shoot him! And then he'd grab, bang!

[00:02:13] I'd grab him and he'd say, get your stinking paws off me, damn dirty ape. Now, Connor, that's good acting, man. That was good acting. That's good acting. I can do a lot of good acting. No, no, no. You got to go by. See, that was surface. No, no, no. That's surface stuff. Want to see me be happy? Yeah, I want to see you be happy. Watch this. No, no. See, that's sad. Yeah? That makes me happy.

[00:02:41] Oh, okay. So, teach me. Exactly. Exactly. Say mind melt. Mind melt. Yes, okay. Good. Say, williamshatner.com. This is me disgusted. Okay. Now, wait a minute. We have no time left. What are you talking about? We're out of time. You came out here and wanted to talk about Conan and his marriage and what's Conan up to? Well, what's wrong with that? What are you doing? I'm taking your picture.

[00:03:10] Listen, you want to learn to act? Yes. I'm going to teach you how to act. Okay. Teach me very quickly. Well, that's it. Take as much time as you want. There you go. Sense memory. Sense memory. Okay. When I, my first job was pain. I had to play pain. Better than what I did? No, I didn't go like that. What? I didn't go . You went . Yeah. That's what I did.

[00:03:40] Oh, okay. What did you do? Say mind melt. Okay, mind melt. All right. Stop that. Now, so what do you do when you channel the sense? How do you, what do you think of sense? Sense memory is thinking of pain. Something that caused you pain. No, but you can't think about it. Oh. You got to be there. Right. It's got to be on the surface. Right. Like, give me your hand. Pain. That didn't really hurt.

[00:04:10] Pain. Didn't really hurt. Come on. Go for it. Oh, okay. Pain. That's pain. What are you doing down there? Oh, okay. I don't know. Trying to get a bite. Here. You know, we are so out of time. What are you doing? I don't know. You and I have the strangest interviews that have ever been on television. And love it. These are not interviews.

[00:04:40] These are happening. I revere this man. William Shatner, everybody. Owen O'Neill.

[00:05:04] Sometimes we get so deep into conversation that we have separate segments worthy of their own place in the sun. Reshuffled mini-episode.

[00:05:20] Here on this episode, I'm going to have J.J. Bruno, Daniel Ryan, and Tony Johnst all just drop in to just list best Bill Shatner roles. He's been a cool actor, as well as blurring the line between, you know, great actor and, you know, infamous actor.

[00:05:49] He's reinvented himself multiple times. He has more appearances as himself than as an actual actor. He has been on almost every sitcom. He has been, you know, a pioneer of infamous horror movies and awesome sci-fi movies. And he just has now regrown as a comedic icon and even as an unintended singer. So everyone accept him as a comedic icon.

[00:06:17] He's like, okay, he can make fun of himself, but he's also, he's in every TV special of the week. So now it means something more. And I think what was also pretty cool was he ended up from that point on just being in the most unusual kind of movies from that point. So I'm going to mention a few other roles and see who's seen any of these. Has anyone seen the hystericals related name only sequel American Psycho 2? No. Oh, God.

[00:06:45] I quote this movie commonly just because it's his final, he's in the most memorable death scene in the whole thing. Stop calling me Bobby. He's being stalked. One of my favorite YouTubers, Dr. Wolfiola, that was one of his early reviews. I remember that review. I hate remembrance. Just the one thing he says at the beginning of that, you know, you're probably asking, could a Mila Kunis movie possibly be that bad? Of course it can. Why would you ask me that? Right. Why?

[00:07:14] Especially when they couldn't even get Christian Beldt a prize. They just have someone else playing Patrick Bateman. I'm going to mention another one here. Alexander the Great. This is a 60s TV pilot. He and Adam West did because they didn't know how longer Star Trek and Batman respectively were going to be. Oh, God. Those two are together. Before that?

[00:07:35] Well, and it's definitely an appropriate parallel because Adam West was definitely another one who, as even Kevin Murphy of Mystery Science said at best, is like, he can make anything great and he can make anything funny. You know, he's got the voice. It's like how John Belushi is studying people who he's going to make fun of and Kevin Pollock and Seth MacFarlane worked Shatner into their act. Adam West was just one of those, he would just always show up and you're like, that's Adam West.

[00:08:01] You know, it's just the movie becomes something different because now that he's appeared out of nowhere. Yeah. Because Alexander the Great came out in 63. It really is a TV pilot we're seeing. Yeah. Because it's a standalone kind of thing and it literally looks like an awesome live theater kind of spectacle, if that makes sense. Yeah. Shatner's very confident in the horse riding scene because he was an actual horse rider in real life.

[00:08:31] He still owns a ranch. Yeah, you can YouTube this one easy. It's actually kind of interesting just seeing how, you know, spectacles were done back in the day on, you know, TV to fill time. Yeah, that was the thing back then. You'd have like a TV show with like a big, big cast of people and, you know, it was going to be, it was either a one-off thing. And that Alexander the Great, I do kind of remember seeing on YouTube.

[00:09:00] And I think it did later air on like other movies after filling to get picked up. It was still in the TV vaults. And so they're like, okay, let's show this on some of the, you know, free to air channels. No one cares, but we had them full time. And he has, I think he has like the page boy hair in this. Like, yeah, definitely around the start of his toupee years. And it's, Toga, Toga, there's the blue sea connection. Toga, Toga. Has anyone seen Land of the Free?

[00:09:31] That one I have not. So this is an, okay. So during the nineties and early two thousands, there was much like new image and millennium films was becoming a thing. There was another one called PM entertainment group. And they were just notable for just always having outrageous car chases and a bunch of B movie actors like Jack Scalia, a bunch of our martial artists like Don, the dragon Wilson. Oh my God.

[00:09:57] Their movies would air on monster vision, you know, TNT, as well as premiere on HBO with the likes of Michael Madsen, Angie Everhard. So it was just always, they were always just fun spectacles. And in this one, this was one of many that had Jeff Speakman, you know, right off, you know, the perfect weapon. And make the joke about him, the Kung Fu Jew. Oh, yeah. Jeff Speakman, like, oh, it was Kevin Pollack. I think Kevin Pollack, no, Richard Jenny.

[00:10:25] Richard Jenny would make the joke about him. Jeff Speakman, Kung Fu Jew. I mean, I don't mean to say any anti-cinematic, but it was just, it was just, he'd be like, oh, hi-ya. You know, like. Well, it's appropriate since he's fighting Shatner here as an evil politician. It's, it's a very fun, outrageous movie. At one point, they even rip off Die Hard by having Speakman's character fall off the side of a building using a fire escape.

[00:10:50] And Shatner gets the best lines at the end when, after Speakman's dispatched his henchmen who are firing at him from a helicopter in his private ranch. And he tries to drown Shatner in quicksand after killing his family. And Shatner's like, what are you doing? It's just outrageous. You gotta see it. It's probably on YouTube or Tubi.

[00:11:15] Oh, I do love me some B-movies because they were just made so coherently compared to today's standards where you're just like, what the fuck? Okay, skipping for this. I'm, I'm gonna have to go with Airplane 2, the sequel. Yes. Because. Oh yeah. Yeah. The ultimate, and the lines. My best friend and me would quote the lines.

[00:11:42] And when it gets to Buck Murdock, I, I have to, I have to just like take, like clear my head. Because it's, you know, it wasn't that good of a sequel as the original. Okay. But when it gets to Shatner's part, when it's. He, it totally makes it go to a whole different stage. I think on the director's episode with those, you know, Zucker brothers and everything.

[00:12:05] I think they even described how they got every, all these serious actors to, you know, including Leslie Nielsen, everybody to agree to it because by just making them trust them is like, that's why it's funny. You're saying all this stupid shit, doing what you do so well. Yeah. And that's why it's a great parody, you know? And it's just amazing how they got everyone to just say, you know, just go with it. Have fun. The thing I love is when he's looking through the periscope and he's like, he's the head honcho now. Numero uno. Yeah.

[00:12:35] And all of a sudden you see the start, the, the, the, the enterprise come flying by and he's like, what the hell was that? He's like, let's go. And he goes, he goes, Hey, have you got strikers record? Yeah. It's terrible. Okay. You know what I mean? It was just such an over the top role for him. Yeah. He was just fresh up doing star track too. And so it's just that, you know, along with SNL, that's him definitely just one of many times where he's like, yeah, I'll gladly mock, you know,

[00:13:00] star track again while also paying tribute. And it's just, you know, for this sequel in particular, they're already making fun of other airport, you know, sequels and fake matinee screenings and Godzilla. So it was just very refreshing to see them. I can't just go even deeper in the parody bill. The thing I loved was that when they did it, we'll make sure, you know, get them, you know, it's all this beeping and flashing and I can't take it anymore. I mean, it was just so good to see him send themselves up, you know,

[00:13:31] right. And for sure, it's like, you know, okay. They got Nielsen bridges, you know, and stack the first and graves. Then they got graves bridges. And then they got Shatner. So it was like, all right, George Kennedy. And there's somewhere if I'm remembering, right? No, no. George Kennedy wasn't in those. It was a one was Chuck Connors. That's who I'm thinking. When they say somebody to get me the Sarge.

[00:13:58] Yes. And he had more. Oh, and Rip Torn is in that too. That's right. Yeah, of course. And Rip Torn played not only the guy who was the head of the safety council, but he played Reagan. There's parts where they cut up where he's Reagan like you like you see him holding a black hand and it pulls back. It's just a black wooden hand with a suit with a suit sleeve on it. You know, to make fun of Reagan, you know, being like a racist or anything like that.

[00:14:26] And then what? Yeah, there's a cuts. There's so many cut scenes that they showed. And there's that one scene where he's like holding a hand. Thank you, Mr. President. It's just like a wooden hand colored black with a white suit. It was just so funny to watch. That's what's great about that movie. But get back Shatner, though. He it was just like, you know, he's there. He's got the commander's hat on and he's got like the suit on or like that. And he's like, he's like, he's like, Captain, what do you make of this?

[00:14:55] Well, it's a dog. It's a dog. That's a hat. That's a, you know, it's a bunny rabbit. OK, but he does. He's he's he's keeping a beat with the with the movie, which is great. Tony, do you have a role that you want to mention for the Shat that just kind of gelled with it? Just really say, wow, this dude can do no wrong. Well, I can't really think of anything that hasn't already been.

[00:15:23] Have you by any chance seen Loaded Weapon one? Oh, yeah, I haven't seen those, but it's been like a couple of decades since I've seen him. He made the movie because, you know, he already got Emilio Estevez and Sam Jackson making fun of, you know, Lethal Weapon, Die Hard and 48 Horse. Dr. Nutri. Right. Even Bruce Willis even shows up playing basically a poor man's John McClane saying they blew up my house.

[00:15:49] And, you know, it was definitely one of the more underrated National Lampoon movies that, you know, it flopped when it came out. But they ate it up on home videos saying this is really fucking funny. And Shatner just really took it to the bank by playing a guy who literally drowns his own fish and eats it. And how do you drown a fish? And just really just playing ball without trying to steal the movie from everybody and just being like, oh, but you didn't think that you'd take out all my men? And then, sir, no one else is coming.

[00:16:20] Oh, but I'm pretty sure I got a bunch of other henchmen coming around the corner to shoot you up. You know, just like that. It really just plays it out. He gets a great death. He's falling from a balcony and then still half alive or some shit like that. It's just, they don't make smoosh like this anymore. As far as I'm concerned, Black Dynamite and maybe one other. And that was it, you know, and the parody movie died.

[00:16:45] I miss those days because it just got very dire after a while or it would be too much. The scary movie killed it badly. Well, and that's just the sad part is I really like what the Zuckers did with that afterwards having Nielsen and Anthony Anderson and some of those other guys and some of those. And then after that, it just got too much. It's just like, okay, you know, SNL is kind of dying up at TV is not as funny.

[00:17:11] And it's like, can we just, you know, I'm so glad that we had stuff like YouTube and Funny or Die and they were kind of relaunching it that way. It's like, that's how you got to just do it. And I mean, I'm so excited that they finally were able to fund Kung Fury and make a feature film version of that. That's coming out soon because that was very fun. Just make it fun of that 80s synthesizer music. And they're going to have Arnold Schwarzenegger play a villain in it. I'm like, that's perfect. Oh, wow. Wait, Fury coming out.

[00:17:39] I'm not sure, but it got, you know, but twice in a row, it got successfully crowdfunded. You know, people, it gelled because it was just made with love. It didn't overstay its welcome. And that's just what was so funny is everyone was like, I want more. I want more. I'm like, if you do any more, it's going to be too long and piss people off. It's just, you gotta have it be just 10 minutes or 20 minutes. And that's all you need. Yeah, that was a half hour of just pure, you know, hilarious. Yeah.

[00:18:07] Every kill means something is like, I miss those days where you remember the hitchhmen, not only, but what I, by what outrageous thing they do, but how they're disposed of and what outrageous name or character trait they got. And it's just, it's the loss now. Now it's just all they want to do now. It works to some extent. And then it flops in other ways. Now they got to just get the 50 something actors taking out the trash. And it's just like, that works to some extent, but it gets pretty repetitive. We got to have something cool to the villain.

[00:18:37] Has anyone seen the devil's reign? Yes. That this is an unofficial sequel to Monos, but. Yeah. It is a fairly watchable, reasonable time killer. And, you know, this used to be showed on monster vision for Joe Bob Briggs. And, um, you know, it has many people earlier or later in their career, like John Travolta, Ernest Borg nine, and even the sheriff from green acres is here.

[00:19:01] And, uh, uh, Shatner's really got a cool dilemma here because he, he also probably the highest body count of his whole career. He's, you know, gets converted by this demonic cult and then realizing, Oh shit, they're destroying us in the town. I got to set fire to the church where he sacrifices himself just like Kirk, you know? And so that's, what's pretty awesome. All about that is when you watch it, it's Ida Lupino Tom Skerritt. Eddie. He's in it. Yeah. Yeah. Albert. Who else was in it?

[00:19:31] Ernie Borg nine plate. Uh, chorus. Apparently this is what got Travolta. Uh, the rumor is this is where he met the Scientologist and they converted. Yeah. So the thing I loved about that movie was that when you were watching it, as you're watching, you're thinking to yourself in the back here, back of your head. And this go any further, like, you know, story-wise, you know, right. Can it get any more shocking? We got 40 minutes left.

[00:19:54] What could possibly happen now that everyone's been little brother, you know, the little brothers there, Tom Skerritt's character. And, you know, it's like, still totally an alien mode in a way. He hadn't made alien yet. I think he, yeah, yeah. That's what's ironic, but he's still basically in alien. That's what I love about it. Dallas mode. He's like, he's like, yeah, you gotta save my brother. You know, like, okay, you know, right.

[00:20:22] But the thing I loved about that was the mask that he had, I think, became the mask that they used for. How about Michael Myers? Yeah, that's right. Halloween. Yeah. Because that became a merchandise item. And it's funny. But if you watch it, I have the preview somewhere on my Facebook page. Oh, do you? Yeah. And it's like, it's part of a B movie, like a B movie trailer thing. They're like, you haven't seen anything till you've seen the devil's reign.

[00:20:51] And they say, made with the cooperation of Anton LaVey of the Church of Satan. That's what's it too. Yeah. Actual people of the Church of Satan were members of this. And that's what's just so shocking is this is like seemingly normal people was like somehow they would convince them it was a church group, like a Christian group. And they would somehow just change the name and just say, I don't know how they converted them. But God, that is just a scary part of history.

[00:21:20] Oh, I don't want to get too political. But God damn. That movie got me freaked out a little bit. It does a good job of keeping you in suspense. Yeah. It has moments that haven't dated well. That's just what happens with some 70s thrillers. But it is pretty cool how the music isn't over the top and yet it still causes a sense of dread very naturally. It plays it safe without feeling, you know, just shoddy.

[00:21:45] At the same time, it is very low budget and yet it makes good use of every shocking moment without, you know, relying on gore or even just, you know, slasher music. Yeah. It's a movie. It's a free out of five. The only gory part. Yeah, is when they're melting. Yeah. So there you go. I'm melting. I watched that one night and all of a sudden I just got into MST through K mode when they're on. I'm like, we're melting. We're melting. Yeah. You know.

[00:22:14] I'm surprised they haven't, Rift Tracks and them haven't taken it on yet, but this is a perfect segue. Rift Tracks did take on Kingdom of the Spiders. Oh. Oh yeah. Yeah. I do remember that from. That's another one. It's, you can't really take it seriously, but it's not harmful, but at the same time, it is definitely worth seeing. I mean, it was good enough to be included in Shatner's comedy central roast when they did the, you know, B roll at the beginning showing moments of their career.

[00:22:39] It's just so funny seeing how these spiders, the most harmless ones that they picked clearly, you know, for safety reasons are just over him. And he's just, you know, we always think he's stilted in how he delivers his lines. He's taking his sweet time, just shaking his hands, acting like they're overpowering. And the ending, he looks at it. He's like, you, you see him go like he falls. I love when he falls in the cellar. He's like, ah, and I'm like, they're not coming after you. Right. And then, but this is before he gets the torch out.

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[00:24:01] This transitions to probably his best horror fantasy moment outside of all these movies, in my opinion, definitely has to be Incubus. Oh, God. Not to be confused with the music band of the same name, but he did speak an actual ancient language. This was he's practically speaking Latin, you know? And. Yeah. Esperanto was a new language that they were going to create.

[00:24:32] Yeah. He's just so he disappears into it. You forget about even Shatner, the actor, Shatner, the over actor. You just like, how the fuck did he do that? That's some dedication right there. And they re-released it in the 90s with a cleaned up print because my. Yes. And he went on the Daily Show to promote it and everything. And they were like, seriously, how the fuck did you do this? And he's like, I trusted. I just, I, I just pretend it was acting.

[00:25:02] Yeah. Yeah. What I remember. The, the, my, one of my teachers was talking about Esperanto, how, because I was a communications major. And he said, yeah, they made a movie with William Shatner in it called Incubus. And I was like, oh, okay. No way. I'm just thinking the back of my head. This is like, this is like, you know, Stallone doing party at Buffy and studs, you know, it's

[00:25:31] like, it's like the movie he, he may want to forget doing. Right. But the irony is he had no shame about it, but yeah, it was just one of those. It's like the distributor or somebody, they didn't know what to do with it. And it just got lost in some kind of shuffle and rediscovered years later. Yeah. And it's actually been given multiple Blu-ray things. I think it's actually, don't quote me on this. I don't know shit, but I think it might be part of the Criterion channel. Possibly. Oh, okay. So perfect.

[00:26:01] I remember they were like, they were doing the whole re-release of stuff. And I think I read it in Playboy of all places. They have some interesting articles. Yeah. They have a lot of movie buffs in those. And it's just so funny. I would see the reviews featured on movies like Screamers and Congo of all places. I'm like, wow, they're, they're reviewing movies and they're, the studios are using it for the home video release. But yeah, no, that's a good segue. Cause it's like, this is also kind of an easy one. Easier to get into kind of cult movie.

[00:26:31] You know, there's always the ones where he's like, okay, this doesn't make sense unless I'm hammered or I have a bunch of friends to, who have seen it more times than I to get in the, in the zone, in the mode. And this is what it's really does kind of grasp it easily. Cause it's just very spheric. Yeah. Dark. It's psychological too. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, he had already been in a movie was kind of a loose Rashomon remake with a Paul Newman of all people.

[00:26:59] And so he was just, it was kind of a copy and paste for him at that point. Yeah. I can't recommend that other movie, but this one totally just seek it out and watch it on YouTube. It's definitely on there somewhere. And it is. And just be like, wow, how did they, people can, people were creative in the sixties, man. You got to think about it too. It was the whole French new French wave and and sexual ality and you know, less picture

[00:27:29] show type indies coming out. Yeah. Let's make a movie about a language that no one will ever speak because like, it was like, you know what they were doing with, with, with Esperanto. They were doing the metric system with words. That's what I was thinking of. Very true. Very true. And more or less, uh, I got to also just hand it to him for just try again, trusting each other is saying, you know, no one's done it.

[00:27:56] But they kind of really do handle it kind of like a, again, Shatner basically is handling it. Like he does both of his twilight zone appearances and, uh, you know, you can make fun of his recent stuff now and him making fun of himself. But I mean, this one is like, he, he definitely could have had it not been a long lost film. He could have definitely used it on his demo reel back in the day. Here's what I can do. I got to recommend the Andersonville trial. Oh, much like 12 angry men.

[00:28:26] And it just has, you know, this is before everyone's trying to be like Manix or law and order or dragnet. And this one is really just riveting because, you know, it's a real life thing. Everyone's playing a key person in the trial and, you know, like Frost Nixon and other stuff, you know, or they're not being, you know, literal with every moment of the transcript. They have some leeway and, you know, it's pretty much the, a few good men of its day.

[00:28:53] You know, just questioning what makes a soldier. When do you define order? When do you take the order? Even if it's wrong or right or questionable. Yeah. It just, and Shatner gets to be one of the prosecutors who kind of asked some of the more open-minded questions like, well, you know, were you aware of what their, their personal agenda was versus what your agenda was? And so it's like, okay, this is getting pretty deep. That's pretty cool that they gave him one of the key closing statements. You know?

[00:29:24] I'll, I'll give you two for the price of one. Okay. Big. Oh boy. The original big bad mama. From seven. Or let's get, let's get that in the honor roll. That was coming up. Okay. Please. Cavalier gangster, William J Baxter. And he gets to have a love scene with God. He got laid on the bitch.

[00:29:52] You know, that's I'm taking it that. And the second role you're probably mentioning. I'm taking it is impulse. Yes. Where he. Oh my God. So basically becomes a free serial killer after he witnesses a guy assaulting his mom. It's, it should be traumatic and everything. And you just can't take it seriously. He gets a moment where he gets to fight the guy who played a odd job in Goldfinger.

[00:30:21] Oh my God. What the hell was going on in this? I give you a little wasn't right. A little bit of something that I found out my father's friend, uh, Seuss Kawamoto for my father worked at Sears. Uh, my father's friend, Seuss work was an internment camp in world. Wow. My father's had me when he was older in life. So he, he says to me, so one day he says, you know, Jay, you know who Seuss knew?

[00:30:49] And I'm like, who is this odd job? Harold Sakata. I'm like, not the guy who was there, but odd job. Wow. Odd job. And odd job actually won two, like one Olympic medals for the United States and weightlifting. That's what he was. That's right. He pretty much was kind of like the Andre, the giant of his day where he's like, he should have had a bigger, you know, action wrestler filmography. And he did, you know, got in the way, unfortunately it's like, but we can appreciate the moments he has in this one.

[00:31:18] It won't go down as the best, but it is hysterical. You got to see. It's just him flying off the handle. It's like, they're basically, I'm convinced there really wasn't much of a script. So Shatner just wanted to just get out of there and he's like, well, he is a crazy spree killer. So I'm just, I'm going to tackle it that way. It feels like he kills rich old, what old women, right? And that, yeah, he does something like that. I'm going to mention another one.

[00:31:45] I saw a day ago, a devil's revenge here. He gets to act off of other fellow track actors, Jerry Ryan. That's right. So to nine and Jason Brooks from Oh nine track. And at one point he's telling Brooks, what are you? I can kill a demon for you. It's just a totally campy. Stupid has a demon slaying movie. He's not in it enough, but it's hardly a two out of 10 star rating. Like it's given. It's just outrageous.

[00:32:15] Well, we're skipping a movie that he did that got a lot of good press. That's all right. This is honorable mention. So we're just a lot of men. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Honorable or dishonorable, depending on what you call. Just mention them. Um, kidnapping of the president is another one. Cause yeah, much like devil's revenge. He just lets out an unexpected F bomb. I remember that coming out. I'm going to fucking kill you or some shit like that. I was like, what? That's the shit just cursed.

[00:32:47] What was the curse? And I forget who played the president in that one. It was a famous actor. I'll take a look. I can see. I can see. I'll hold. Yeah. Unfortunately, but yeah. Uh, it's a Lenar Malton even gave it a favorable review. It was one of those. It was by crown. They were a thing. Crown international. That's what I'm thinking of. They, they were the new rivaling new world pictures in the driving scene. And that was definitely one of their better rated ones. It's it was like AIP when AIP was big.

[00:33:18] And then this is as close as Shatner gets to an air force one type, you know, diehard Delta force type movie. It's, it's fun. It I'm, I'm looking at the cast. Yeah. They were fresh off all the seventies disaster movies in Shatner. Like you said, had done plenty of goofy made for TV movies where he's just part of an all-star cast or co-produced by Irwin Allen. But this one is hardly low brow. Surprisingly, the Gardner was in it.

[00:33:47] Oh yeah. How van Johnson here. Van Johnson. Yes. Van Johnson, who my father says to this day was playing the other side of the fence. My father would always say that about certain people. There's another movie. You there's two movies that I kind of remember seeing, you know, when they were replayed or something like that. Pray for the wild cats, which I haven't seen that. Okay.

[00:34:14] Him, Andy Griffith, Robert Reed and Marjo Gortner. If I did see it, I just don't remember it. But yeah, he had plenty of all-star cast movies. His number was available. Andy Griffith plays a, like a, what's the sociopathic boss of this company. So he takes the three of them out on like this motorcycle thing and it's these horrible things happen.

[00:34:41] And then there's the babysitter with him. That is an interesting one because instead of being a lifetime type movie, it is basically another, you know, it cat and mouse type. Him, Patty Duke Austin and Stephanie Zimbalist. And it's. Shatner had his share of mediocre TV movies, but this isn't one of them. That is for sure. And from what I, it was kind of like hand that rocks the cradle almost. Exactly.

[00:35:08] Single white female, all those kinds of movies that were back then. Yeah. It's, it's pre that. And the thing I could never get was how good looking like Stephanie Zimbalist was when she was younger. Oh baby. I've seen her on the love boat. I've seen her. I'm like, this is before Remington. So when Remington, she was hot. Wasn't Shatner on the love boat. I keep thinking he was for some reason. I don't know. I think we're thinking of Ed Asner. That might've been.

[00:35:37] But you notice something. He went to. Mission impossible. Like five different times. And I only remember one moment where he plays like an undercover agent who shoots a terrorist at a diner and gets the. Yeah. He has, but it's weird because. When you read about his career and Nimoy's career, Nimoy's career after Star Trek took up because remember he went from Star Trek and he jumped over to mission impossible to play Paris, the magician guy.

[00:36:07] Yes. And before Kelly, same kind of thing. They had all seen each other sometimes even in the same gun smoke and rawhide episodes. Yeah. So they're, they all like, I know that guy. He's a real asshole. You know, they were always in that mindset before they got close on track and had each other in their will. And then you watch Shatner's career. And from what I read, the sad thing was Shatner was living out of a trailer. Right. He's passed his divorce. He lost everything.

[00:36:35] He just had horses and bad movie roles. So it, it really is interesting. Just that in between embracing the fame, not even realizing that that many people were moved by the current character, even basing their geekdom off of it saying, Oh, movie God, TV God. I know Eric McCormick of Will and Grace fame said when he was working on free enterprise with them, he, you know, he never seen an episode of track or TJ hooker in his life, but he knew

[00:37:05] him as the host of rescue. Nine one. Yeah. Which you should totally see if you like, especially if you're like on salt. Mystery. He makes some narrating and being the host saying, Hey, are in a seed of trouble. A man gets caught in an escalator. What do they do? What do they do? What do they do? Oh God.

[00:37:34] A very interesting television movie that never went to. That was a pilot movie, um, called the dare, which was in 72. And what was it called again? Sorry. Now it's for the people. That's right. It became a, I think I saw that that was like a one season show. And it was like in Canada. Yeah. It was just, no, it was actually on ABC from what I understand, ABC.

[00:38:01] Oh, what happened was, was that, um, Kim Darby, who was in true grace. Um, Kim Darby goes to this town where they have like an Amish community and he's the doc and he's the doctor there, but it turns out, um, aliens with, um, paranormal powers. Gotcha. Hundreds.

[00:38:28] And they, they kind of like, they kind of like, um, they kind of like integrate themselves into society. Gotcha. So it is a total, you know, uh, monsters on Melbury street, you know, X files. It's kind of like, you know, it reminds me of the village. The village of the damned. Gotcha. No, no, no. Damn. More like the village meets, uh, a better version of it. Hopefully. Yeah.

[00:38:58] Yeah. Yeah. It's like, yeah, it's like that. Oh, there's crazy shit. Um, I have a confession to make. I did see the documentary Q and a, uh, limited events through Fandango, uh, Shatner. We live in his world or some shit like that back in like 2016 or something like that, maybe 2013 going even further.

[00:39:19] And, you know, he talked about how he created the desk scene in star Trek generations and how we talked about it actually inspired how I did a desk scene in some acting classes, including even stage combat. I would just do similar stuff. Just roll my head over, just go, you know, just show just the deadness in my eyes and everything. But he had it just a perfect thing.

[00:39:48] He's like, literally, how do you do the desk scene? You literally think about death, how there's nothing there, everything. And it's as deep as he's ever gotten in interviews, even just talking about acting, you know, the rest of the time it's always just, you know, playing up to the camera saying, Oh, I love to steal the spotlight. But that was a really great interview there where he just talked about, you know, how he took it as a dare from again, Christopher Plummer and Ricardo Montalban.

[00:40:16] But there, especially he's like, now that the story is done, the character is, you know, sacrifice himself. And, you know, he's a very spiritual person. So it was just, he really did just try to say, how does the soul leave the body? And he's like, damn, that's so dark for that short of a moment. And yet you see the death scene away is like, I remember everyone just starts cheering because now you got that extra input. It means something so much more.

[00:40:47] He has the line at the end of that where he said, it was fun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I wanted to say something else. Like just to say it was fun is a perfect way to end it. You know, just to say it was fun. You know, right. I thought he was going to say something like tell, you know, tell Spock. Tell somebody I love him. Like there's no one left that he knows of. Yeah. It's like, it was fun.

[00:41:16] No, it would have been ironic if he accidentally called Picard Jim. That would have been fun. Yeah. Wrong person. Okay. I'll tell whoever Jim is. Tell Sulu he's a prick, you know. So more or less, this has been really fun navigating this person because again, no failure, no ability to even truly 100% fail.

[00:41:46] Just maybe miscalculations, but just no fear of dying basically on stage or in person. And when he stopped being able to recreate himself now at that point, he's like, well, now I'm just going to surprise you a bit. So you never know what to expect. And that's his greatest asset, I think.

[00:42:08] And then when you know what to expect, you know, being hammy at that point, it's just interesting because then it takes a totally different chapter of here's a man who's going to be unusual kinds of funny each time. Or well, he had that record come out in the sixties, the transformed man. Mm hmm. And then just being villains and other kinds of stuff. Cowboys. I also just realized I did not mention white Comanche.

[00:42:36] Oh, God. But that is definitely that comes on commonly like once a year on Turner classic movies like Colt movie driving on Fridays. And it's an interesting movie because everyone's joke kind of since then that that's kind of where you start seeing the true Shatner expose his face. But, you know, he has a big dilemma where he's playing twin brothers, one who's converted like a quarter Native American fighting a cowboy. It's a very unusual Italian kind of Western.

[00:43:06] And it could have easily been Kirk in the holodeck misbehaving. But we're saying he's Kierak. Oh, I go. Kierak. Yeah. You are clear in beating my town. Oh, yeah. Basically. Uh, what? Yeah. The cowboy Shatner is basically going all high noon Gary Cooper and the rest. Yeah.

[00:43:32] The other one is basically being, you know, evil Native American, you know, when whitewashed face. It is absolutely we're seeing. Can I just say something? Why did they always get like, like him playing, um, a Native American is like Humphrey Bogart playing an Irishman in dark victory. All right. They just weren't sensitive back then. So it's just, it really is kind of hysterical seeing it from this point on. And you're like, good God, it's fucking sixties.

[00:44:05] And this is one of those, I think it also has another, you know, Mexican American director spoke limited English. So they kind of just leave Shatner to his own devices. And that's kind of where the greatness is brought, born in this movie. You totally got to see it, Daniel, if you have it. Definitely looking it up. I'm sure you can find it on YouTube. It's definitely in some of those Mill Creek, you know, 10 movie packs. They probably got that and like five Lee Van Cleef movies to follow after that.

[00:44:34] I'm surprised they never crossed paths. I wouldn't put it past with Jimmy Stewart. I know Shatner worked with Spencer Tracy on Judgment at Nuremberg. Oh, there, there you go. So, man, I knew I was forgetting another courtroom movie. I always got it mixed up with Andersonville, even though I know I'd seen both. And his first role is in Brothers Karamazov. He plays the younger brother. That's a really good one. And he's working against other mystery science theater favorite, but never actually featured on that show. Richard Basehart.

[00:45:04] Yeah. Yeah. Richard Basehart. Richard. That's a good gypsy. Richard Basehart. Richard Basehart is definitely a lot with Peter Grange is one of those like, not hard to do my voice, but I am Richard Basehart signing off. Well, I always love it. How like I told I like they break it to get off mystery science theater for a minute. But it's like they break it the gypsy that Richard Basehart wasn't the original commander of the sea view on. It was really, you know, Walter pigeon.

[00:45:34] And she's like, oh, no, right. Yeah. To animate his credits. So he's he's, you know, he's he's covered everything, you know, he really can't do any wrong. He can't do any worse. See, if he does a piece of shit the next day that's on Amazon Prime, you're just going to say, well, that was kind of funny. Yeah. I have another funny story to say.

[00:45:56] My father was working at NCTC and he was getting with some of the company executives who are always finding, you know, nationwide college looking for someone to, again, be a spokesperson for their various college ads that play on TV. Believe it or not, the chairman who was talking about it, they're always getting, you know, famous actors who they, you know, a few million to do the commercial. And they range from anyone from Ernie Hudson to Gerald McRaney.

[00:46:24] And he, the person clearly doesn't know who Shatner is like, they know they're a TV actor, but they don't know what they're famous or infamous for. And he's like, we're thinking of getting William Shatner. And my dad had to just hold back a Gafai. It's like, you clearly don't know who the fuck that is. I mean, that's William Shatner. I'm William Shatner for Priceline. I am William Shatner.

[00:46:46] And the Priceline ad was pretty funny because in the last final one, I think he did, he's running towards the sea with a surfboard and you can tell it's so not Shatner. It's like a double with a very faker toupee than Shatner's. I think that's the in joke too. It might've been, but they're insurance purposes. There are no way you're going to make the Shat go surfing. No, we're not going to. I am William Shatner.

[00:47:13] Well, we were, while we were talking about Shatner, I told you about how I did my generation. Like, so who's my generation as William Shatner? My generation. People try to put us down. Talking about my generation. Just because we get around. Talking about my generation.

[00:47:40] Anyone who has not heard any of the songs he's done with Nimoy, you're missing out. I mean, and his recent ones were even better because I mean, he covered, uh, freaking, you know, blinded me with science. Yeah. Blinded me? With science! I heard that song you did, Common People, a couple way back, like 2005. Oh yeah. I love that. I love that song. That was really good because yeah, he, you know, I think it was co-produced with like Ben Folds and... Yeah. I didn't expect it.

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