Band of Brothers, The Pacific & Masters of the Air Mini-Series Review (with Trevor Smigelski from Theater of War!)

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[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_03]: We are on the eve of the March-Staction Historic Warfare.

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[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_01]: What made you decide to join the Paratrooper?

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[00:01:16] [SPEAKER_02]: I wanted to fight with the best sir.

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[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_08]: Once again, all we are doing a triple feature.

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[00:02:50] [SPEAKER_08]: We're going into the Dr. Drama,

[00:02:55] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, free part series.

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_08]: Based on around the happenings of the exploit of easy company and the hundred and first airborne at Division.

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_08]: That's chronicled over three series, all produced by Tom Hanks play tone and Spilberg's Amblin company.

[00:03:18] [SPEAKER_08]: The first two or four HBO, the recent is for Apple TV, all the various acclaim and I figured I have another voice in the room to traverse Trebersman Gelsky from the one, the only.

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[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_12]: Hey, everybody, are you done?

[00:03:39] [SPEAKER_08]: I had no sunshine like the various flashes in the sky from all the artillery.

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_12]: I'm being able to walk my way over the through the flag.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_08]: You can actually see the sky here not.

[00:03:59] [SPEAKER_08]: You're not seeing just.

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Recurshating shells bouncing over your head. It's a good day.

[00:04:09] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I, you know, my, on my worst day is probably like their best day or, you know, vice versa.

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_12]: I don't worry about, you know, being a banded charge by.

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_12]: I, Japanese soldiers or getting shwacked by a 18, you know, 16 year old conscript from the Hitler youth or a.

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_12]: I turned into a, turn into a human ragu at the end of it.

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[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_08]: I work security, but I, I can honestly say it is not like the movies guys. You do not look forward to getting shot in the face of the beginning of your shift.

[00:04:57] [SPEAKER_08]: It's pretty pretty straightforward. So you were a observer previously in the Marines.

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes.

[00:05:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Are you one of the many who kind of look for some kind of accuracy when you watch a movie or are you kind of more depends on the tone or what you're in the mood for.

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_12]: Kind of kind of calm a calm be give you a great example of that we walk my wife and.

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_12]: I let it she really enjoyed the Kingsman and the king men and then like when the king's been came out and me being the world war one not or history not a I am.

[00:05:31] [SPEAKER_12]: I hate I had to stop the movie of 10 or 15 minutes to explain the historical context was going on.

[00:05:37] [SPEAKER_12]: Meanwhile, I could hear my wife's eyes rolled into the back of her head as I am stopping movie to give her a mini history lesson. She really care less.

[00:05:48] [SPEAKER_12]: It's like I'm sorry there's also time for me.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_12]: Exactly, she's like that's okay nerd.

[00:05:54] [SPEAKER_12]: It's a it she says it lovingly.

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_12]: But then there's times like with fury like a watch I will fear is one of my favorite.

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_08]: I saw that on the theaters. Yeah, I did too. My brother was wiped out and what's so fun is we ran into a former college friend of mine.

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_08]: At that time and he's not used to our way of kind of interacting with the movie like we're pretty quiet but everyone's while you might we might let out a small like kind of Mr. Science Theatre kind of this.

[00:06:21] [SPEAKER_08]: But not to where we're interfering with the movie, but most of the time we kind of keep it as we're laughing or we'll even just go.

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, you know, just you want to talk or the closest I've been to a Charles Brots and S. Crab was probably watching all free.

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_08]: I went to the small movies and theaters. Those guys were crazy like they read a segul type.

[00:06:43] [SPEAKER_08]: Gill, I'm like Jesus guys it's just a movie.

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_08]: So it is always unusual what kind of interaction you get.

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, you can kind of pick like some people's like, oh that one is historically accurate. Like the end of fury.

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_12]: I'm like, you know, just the wave on wave of the human waves of a German soldiers in your counter.

[00:07:05] [SPEAKER_12]: But it's not historically accurate but Dan was a that was a really cool secrets.

[00:07:09] [SPEAKER_08]: There's that that is gamers who talked shit. I'm like you weren't even paying attention to his request.

[00:07:15] [SPEAKER_08]: But then the other ones were just like, okay, I get that to care.

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_08]: But then I don't know when I saw people doing this lately with the show Vikings. I'm like, well, yeah.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_08]: It's a lot to have to take in and say that's bullshit. You know, you can only get the manuscripts to go on. But yeah, no, no, there's some good more movies and don't get me wrong. You can enjoy Rambo and then personally I don't even know why they try to get the.

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_08]: Is this true that they have to flip the ranking logos so it's not an infringement on the military.

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_08]: I've never heard that before actually. Okay, so it's probably a dog shit to watch it because you're not doing it in public.

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_12]: I work done. I should be a man of fame and sure.

[00:08:01] [SPEAKER_12]: If someone did that more likely if you do that, you're going to get called out for that instead of being like,

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_08]: I thought so too. You know, unless you're the 18 where you're like we're a fictional, you know, covert obstamine.

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_12]: Johnson and being a Marine.

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, she's I saw I saw that. There's.

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_12]: I'm sure we're stuck in. So it was the audience wasn't visible.

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_12]: I mean.

[00:08:37] [SPEAKER_12]: The only audience there was was was the residents of locked in Oklahoma. So give you an idea of what life and lot, local home is like you can either.

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, look at the brown nothing that is Oklahoma or you can go see John Cena pretend to act.

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_08]: No, there's not a there's not a sea there's not a plan free.

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, there's other things to do a lot and but it's more of how far to your morals, you know, Evan low, yes.

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I get into arguments all the time with my work and reframing me, see I play historical work games.

[00:09:20] [SPEAKER_12]: I'm sorry.

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, with the worst fucking movie ever blah blah blah blah blah it's like yes, I understand there were no wild cats in the movie midway.

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_12]: I get that I will say this.

[00:09:32] [SPEAKER_12]: It was probably a budget constraint. There is a lot going on.

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_12]: The pictures that the movie enterprise, the pressure named movie enterprise and it would been like okay cool no problem. It takes place on the enterprise.

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_12]: It's all about the dive bombers and torpedo bombers has nothing again, nothing do there.

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, there was a lot there they could have done but you have to admit that they kept this they kept it moving along. You were able to fall the storyline and just hinge everything on Pearl Harbor.

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_12]: It was a ton of fun to watch. It was great. It was fun to watch and theaters.

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_08]: I was like, that's all I was mad about it. Yeah, you know, movies are you noticing this more with movies now that I'm what we're going to deeper guys were but we're just going warmed up but it's.

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm finding that some movies you should just literally just watch once like that is meant is meant to be in and out is meant to be cinematic junk food and I see other people they want to analyze everything the minute it comes to Blurray and like you're going to find stuff you weren't supposed to see now.

[00:10:32] [SPEAKER_12]: And now it's in blue right now. It's exactly it's going to those those rose to the lenses are going to come right off.

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh man, I people even like the classic war movies a lot of times they were just bullshit like now the ball just both be this class of worry it's not it's not good it's not it's not.

[00:10:53] [SPEAKER_08]: I know that's true. I would see people talk about that one and like well so I'll take this a story in word for it but man that what an empty empty excuse for a movie and you got an ensemble cast you know so Kelly's heroes 30 doesn't is not.

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_12]: And those are those pop.

[00:11:12] [SPEAKER_12]: I'm poor polpy kind of man emission movies that it's like you know I'll take that over your weird revisionist style of history I guess there's a lot of that yeah.

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_11]: Thank you.

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_12]: I think when people even don't be braze is another example.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_12]: The green brazes just nothing but just a garbage.

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_12]: Compaganda it's like you expect John Wayne who's like about six and a half feet tall barely walk he's either drunk.

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_08]: And so he doesn't really need them. He kind of just borders them will stand and he kind of.

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah exactly he's kind of like the steam sigal of his era.

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah he really is this is before the thing is probably if he's ever kidnapped a woman and kept held or hostage but that's not a trafficer but he he is a braces so there is that you know.

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah if you found out he was you wouldn't be surprised.

[00:12:04] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah I can see that.

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm actually about to get this way with like other filmmakers like because I'm not saying will be like the basana we're going to keep the art separate from the piece of shit filmmaker but it is almost kind of that point where I'm like.

[00:12:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Hard severe about the bleed on on screen to where I have to question you now.

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_08]: And I'm seeing some things not too different from the latest tablight I heard about you so.

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_12]: I got down like why don't you.

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_12]: Like those babies a great horror flick at the home.

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_12]: Planski you should just go right.

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Yep what do you turn that buddy you you need to go for a swim in the ocean and not come back up for.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Yep but yeah I'm away with what he all and I'm like oh all these great romantic comedies and hitman dramas and just period peace.

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_08]: Satires and what a piece of shit.

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_08]: But for sleep with these not no luck finding any douchebag behind the scene so that's that's a relief pretty good here.

[00:13:14] [SPEAKER_12]: I think they're good yeah good track record with them.

[00:13:18] Yeah.

[00:13:20] [SPEAKER_08]: So I mean banner roses was kind of well we'll go straight into that one that that's the one that's related all I mean it always heard about various mini series but like this was.

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_08]: Kind of a claim for not only the emmy and the going low but also just kind of bringing it back you know and next thing you know it wasn't it was we you know everyone wanted to jump back on it instead of just have it be you know can burns PBS special or.

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_08]: You know,

[00:13:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Spoper kind of did this with T and T more often and this was kind of another thing is like.

[00:13:54] [SPEAKER_08]: He brought his from the earth to the moon guys on to here and this.

[00:14:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Every person I've heard about that chronicles all the rise of cable TV you know is like they they age be a less than alone they there's like we don't always care for every.

[00:14:11] I mean it was kind of this was kind of my super anos 24 growing up where I you know.

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean it was kind of a lot of the thing that we're going to be doing is moving or show that we you know.

[00:14:14] [SPEAKER_08]: Produced but this was one where they're like this is going to be great.

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, but the power is the Michael came in final score as a composer and.

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know why I get very wishy just hearing that every time history channel does a man cut marathon.

[00:14:34] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean,

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean it was kind of this was kind of my super anos 24 growing up where I you know we would collect the duties of a lot of us to my father would videotape this for grandparents and give it to them next to.

[00:14:47] [SPEAKER_08]: And you know it's just and then they didn't have the premium channel so it was always kind of a and.

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_08]: I despite being mature audience, it was kind of kind of like the matrix where no one gave a shit about the rating there's like we're watching this.

[00:15:02] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, exactly that all that fully all those semino and rising actors and it's I love how so many of them have still to this day reunited with co producer co writer Graham yost on other stuff.

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Like boom town and justified sense.

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_08]: And every time I always light them up and.

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_08]: It's so funny not everyone knows their names, but they always go oh.

[00:15:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay, he's on.

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, from the system wasn't in the office space too.

[00:15:34] Yeah.

[00:15:34] Yeah.

[00:15:36] [SPEAKER_12]: It's it's crazy to see like I was like I'm just going to jump you off point for a lot of these actors like even Tom or Hanks is kid and.

[00:15:42] [SPEAKER_12]: And like Tom already been 24 years old and now I'm in peg and that same episode, I think.

[00:15:48] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, yeah, I'm okay.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, having as one episode and these were actual battle, you know, kind of that there was a movie I think called I think attack with Jack Palance and Kyle loses an arm or something but like this was way more realistic.

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_08]: And my sister and other peers of mine who are in different classes believe or not.

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Would actually be showing the Holocaust episode in their respective college just as part of their history tutorial.

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_08]: And it's just.

[00:16:24] [SPEAKER_08]: Nothing but natural truth just on the other rim of this bad boy of a show just.

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_08]: And I mean, you have David Schwimmer, you know, this was one of the first shows where I was seeing media gactors, you know.

[00:16:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Play against type and you know seeing him as the lieutenant kernels so bow leads my fear than by example and how.

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_08]: David Lewis's character who keeps rising for the mistakes.

[00:16:52] [SPEAKER_08]: You know has the pretty much be the go to guy here's how you perish.

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Here's how you snipe here's how you.

[00:16:58] [SPEAKER_12]: And you have guys like.

[00:17:00] [SPEAKER_12]: Curt, you know, captain's spirit and the content those guys who are your who are you know the officers who kept them together and you had the NCOs and it's just like you really got to get feel.

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_12]: Love what a chain of command you know functioning combat arms unit like when they're clicking it's.

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I'm beatable.

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh man.

[00:17:23] And.

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_08]: Spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler spoiler.

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_08]: Spoiler Ray 20 plus your old mason's everyone should have seen if you haven't watched as many series you need to realize what your life.

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, I'm going to quote Star Wars go home and reevaluate your life.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_08]: But yet my book, let's character bull and.

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_08]: Scott Grimes from ER is Donald is the technical sergeant in Frank John Hugs as wild bill.

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_08]: And it's always you know trying to hunt down, you know, a nurse to sleep with and those guys were interesting just because they kind of.

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_08]: They were probably unfortunately the toxic mills probably other day and age but I like how it just sums up just how they're in an adult body but they got they youth you know the locker room.

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah art but.

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_08]: Fortunately.

[00:18:17] [SPEAKER_08]: And they do good job of also showing the various you know spam and a can and suit up but it's not you know like Schwarzenegger and command is like legit like you fill the sweat in the room you fill the.

[00:18:29] [SPEAKER_08]: It's able to appeal to all kinds of people without filling like just a testosterone you know, middle only audience you know it's yeah they weren't the muscle bounce you'll be job.

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_12]: They're ready to rock and roll they look like they look like they look like the guy who just drove a taxi work to they really good job casting this like yeah because the average age was what you know you're having 16.

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_12]: 16.

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_12]: 18 for like you're listed maybe like 20 21 for your officers like these were not all dudes they were young kids they were.

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_12]: I think they were the first.

[00:19:05] [SPEAKER_12]: Seal mills and working in 95 and salt in the earth types then you had like the soles and the guys who kind of came from money and so we're screwing their metals but yes.

[00:19:17] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh man.

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah that and.

[00:19:21] [SPEAKER_12]: And you you really feel it like that and but then as a series goes on you can see like he like what I describe you know people tell me it's like oh you're not old like well for me it's though.

[00:19:32] [SPEAKER_12]: I'm not a child it's not the age and you can see the mild pile of speshing up especially in your episodes after the you know the ball the right job on the makeup like yeah and.

[00:19:42] Like.

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_12]: If you look at like um Markey he's a I think for example that you see him in the first episode he's just kind of this what a great man.

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you know you go from there and then you see that last episode was the first.

[00:19:59] [SPEAKER_12]: I think this was the first in a song and then I stayed popped up all the sudden on these set.

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Right.

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah absolutely next 30 years that's all he is but that's fine.

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah I think he's already proved what he can do dramatically so like exactly he's like you're you can you have range because he's.

[00:20:20] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah I'm very funny.

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_12]: Very funny.

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_12]: It's kind of like yeah he presses.

[00:20:25] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh totally.

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_12]: And then yeah and then but then like in the last when they're.

[00:20:30] [SPEAKER_12]: Getting right into like they think punch out and you just they told like hey you have to go on a mission he's like.

[00:20:35] [SPEAKER_12]: Are you kidding me?

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_12]: I've survived this time I don't want to die of stupid mission like you can see like I just think it's fat like you really go pay attention that it's really cool.

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_08]: They.

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_08]: Much like many of these maybe it's me or shows like all of the soprano's cold open you see a lot of it now I'm buried as well but like they would do the whole.

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah just let it just kind of just just kind of a dramatic pause but I'm not talking shat and you're like they just are breathing in and there's.

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_08]: They say everything they need to say as opposed to have more jargon.

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah and it's just you never feel like you're being preached to you never feel like they're stating the obvious that a billion other movies and shows have already done and better you know it's like it finds its own identity.

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_08]: But yeah that is a good point.

[00:21:22] [SPEAKER_08]: He is ready to go and then there's still there you know much like any.

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_08]: We see a lot of this with our today day to day jobs where it's like seriously there has got to be one other person you can call besides me.

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah I just got home.

[00:21:37] [SPEAKER_08]: I actually do get this a lot with my security job where I'm like I have already set up five different plans today no sir.

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_08]: I will help tomorrow I'm not helping to knife.

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.

[00:21:51] I'm.

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_12]: I'm.

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_12]: And security long time trying to get out of it but like you get that call it's like it's the end of the shit.

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_08]: That's what sucks too and they and they will play the loyalty card to to where I'm like what is this?

[00:22:02] [SPEAKER_08]: I bring no.

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm a little too much check.

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm a little too much.

[00:22:08] [SPEAKER_11]: I know yes.

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_08]: And this is probably the first thing so staff Sergeant Joe and that's played by Kirk Asovato you probably seen him on fringe and.

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_08]: Oz.

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_08]: As Miguel.

[00:22:26] [SPEAKER_08]: He was also previously in the thin red line and it does seem to have a lot of the same production value is saving prior Ryan I think that's why this was a cool companion piece that one was loosely based on an actual.

[00:22:38] [SPEAKER_08]: And see that's another one I see people should on that movie now I'm like I'm kind of in that group only so.

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_12]: The Omaha scene yes you know it was groundbreaking is before them really never had anything that intense like richy actually show combat and how the chaos of the country granted that's a that was a miniscule amount of.

[00:23:00] [SPEAKER_12]: Of DNA like my wife grandfather lots of leg on Utah day day plus two losses like.

[00:23:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, but I think it helps that I my mom.

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_08]: My parents will know I think it helps that my mom was a military brat so I was always hanging around her old man but I.

[00:23:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I knew about the whole it's like what the only movie I know where they talk about the whole keeping the bloodline alive.

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_08]: But yes mostly everyone just knows it as just the rescue mission movie which is not really about.

[00:23:31] [SPEAKER_12]: But no and then you start like at first I didn't it wasn't a little after the military and.

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_12]: Um, kind of my time and leadership position you start looking at this guy's like why are you taking six guys and assaulting a hard in the place about machine gun booker.

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_12]: With no sort of support by fire.

[00:23:53] [SPEAKER_12]: None of this okay you shouldn't get okay you just kill dramatic congratulations Tom hands you just kill dramatic.

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_12]: Um, like that like you really start like this is really that great and then the end with those aren't tiger is like the one of the most most.

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_12]: It's like then I started can I know that all that's.

[00:24:14] [SPEAKER_08]: I know that bomber wouldn't have been there.

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_08]: That's all I know.

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Exactly and then but it is kind of part of the partners parts.

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_12]: And he had a judge adventure it's all is kind of it's a man on a mission movie.

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_12]: And what pissed me off.

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_12]: The oldest days that they called the P 51's tank blasters like the P 51 Mustang which was never tank blaster that would be the P 47 Thunderbolt because that's my big baby that's my what about.

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_12]: What about the.

[00:24:42] [SPEAKER_08]: I was.

[00:24:43] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, what's that.

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm just I'm being an asshole.

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm like, I don't know about the 52's.

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Damn it.

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I'm like well they wouldn't be doing that because those P 51's we find escort missions with bombers why why are they here.

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, 47 call that in.

[00:25:05] [SPEAKER_12]: It's like there's no four to our controller there's nobody it's like.

[00:25:08] [SPEAKER_08]: I always took it as one.

[00:25:10] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm signal, but yeah, I mean, I mean, I won't give you this.

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_08]: They don't play the British involvement and I'm a road at always seemed to me like he just was one of those he always hated the British because then you see the Patriot, what she wrote.

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_12]: I'm like, oh my god.

[00:25:30] [SPEAKER_08]: And and it's so funny how Braveheart was kind of the braveheart.

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_08]: It's a brave heart part without that you don't get gladiator you don't get Peter Jackson floor the rings they're going for that realistic medieval kind of look but then you look at you like so what did you do again.

[00:25:45] [SPEAKER_08]: And that's an impressive that way.

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_12]: The Patriot about a guy who.

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_12]: Who's supposed to be based on a person who was a slave owner who was a slave owner.

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, he was the good guy.

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, Frank's Mary and was a good person.

[00:26:02] [SPEAKER_09]: And played by my mother.

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know.

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, you know, he's a beacon of understanding.

[00:26:11] [SPEAKER_09]: It's the court and mystery social sensitivity.

[00:26:14] [SPEAKER_09]: The commissioner side status Mitchell they hero of the movie every.

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh man.

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm sorry.

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_11]: Oh, I'm sorry.

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_08]: It is funny how like this many series it doesn't bring up any doubt like any other movie that and I think we enter issue with every other movie is if you watch it too many times.

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_08]: You're going to find shit that just sticks out like a sore thumb now where you just like wait what.

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[00:28:06] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, so two that over a point.

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, and.

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_12]: And I think it's the the dad and me as soon as it starts coming on like.

[00:28:15] [SPEAKER_12]: I have to stand a watch and then I get that said, nerds to go smoke random meats.

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_12]: I don't think that's just.

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_12]: I think I've hit that point of almost the.

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_12]: The late and also dad so that's like I hear like you say like you hear that that opening thing like I guess time to watch this.

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_08]: That time of the day yeah any other movie or show I will turn off and just get out the blue ray or see if it's on streaming so I can watch it.

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_08]: Marshall free but then there are ones where it's like you know.

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_08]: Nothing else matters right now is that rare deal this is like early Michael man.

[00:28:52] [SPEAKER_12]: This is like Pavlov's dog.

[00:28:55] [SPEAKER_09]: That was dog.

[00:28:56] [SPEAKER_12]: I think that I think I saw that saline.

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_12]: What the hell is happening.

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh.

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_12]: I haven't read the book.

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, a banner rather spicy.

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_08]: And I think I attempted and it was just before.

[00:29:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Some hit it was very, very, very thick history but yeah, and was as a very important guy and.

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_08]: That's actually what connects the Pacific his son was the consultant on that.

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_08]: But yeah, I did give it a scam one day and years ago.

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_08]: I want to say, sir, go sex and.

[00:29:36] [SPEAKER_08]: It was very much like the narration with the actual survivors you see at the beginning of each episode where just like man that these guys are new liars at all and.

[00:29:46] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean much like Scotty on Star Trek was a served on D day and recounted how he felt.

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_08]: He feels every gunshot wound every time he watches a woman movie is same kind of deal here where he's like yeah, but again that this is a step above.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_08]: To either side where just like now we are trying to get the bunker lifestyle we're trying to get you know episode one.

[00:30:10] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, that's by fellow all the Robinson, helping it he might know from sneakers and.

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_08]: Filmed dreams and I just love how.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_08]: We're going to get a sense of the training.

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_08]: As opposed you know as opposed to the whole on the soldier boy waiting on my love to see my loved one you know it.

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_08]: So we're going to go to the school.

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_08]: I think it's very much this is that and go they go straight into just.

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Cleaning up and just.

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_12]: The day life of.

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.

[00:30:41] [SPEAKER_12]: I mean.

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_12]: You know, conscript and whiskey.

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_12]: And there's no so safe he practices.

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_12]: Yes.

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.

[00:30:56] [SPEAKER_12]: That is like well if it's too hot we can't train and it's like back then it's like oh you die from each

[00:31:01] [SPEAKER_12]: stroke that means you'll be be a man and smoke a cigarette.

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:31:05] [SPEAKER_12]: Walking off.

[00:31:06] [SPEAKER_08]: They show the instances of generals but they give you just.

[00:31:11] [SPEAKER_08]: The you pretty much always get that inch of hope in the last 20 minutes we're like okay maybe

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, we're going to get that inch of hope in the last 20 minutes.

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_08]: But it's just like I think there's something good is going to come out of this as opposed to you know.

[00:31:22] [SPEAKER_08]: Feeling nothing but.

[00:31:25] [SPEAKER_08]: Just overwhelmed but at the same time like.

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_08]: They don't.

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_12]: And then things are happening to someone like oh no you actually get like you feel for me that's

[00:31:50] [SPEAKER_12]: I think that's this this one of take this that is what got everybody.

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_12]: It's like such a has such a legacy about that you get you get attached these guys yes like your in the final.

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_08]: I love each other as more than just.

[00:32:05] [SPEAKER_08]: You know,

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm a super pal or actually best friends.

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_08]: It's not just simple coincidence like we went to the same high school you know it's.

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_08]: They're respecting each other but also.

[00:32:21] [SPEAKER_08]: And again, it's with all these people who want to get right you know could those to them bring and

[00:32:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Del die back on you know military consultant guy.

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_12]: He's like in case of military movie break glasses just deal die sitting behind it.

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_08]: People tuned as yep.

[00:32:41] [SPEAKER_08]: And I actually didn't know that Jamie Bambar.

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Fast bender and some of these other guys were on there but I make sense you know and.

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_08]: Even other people who were.

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_08]: They think to it they would answer so bizarre and all these people you see when you see him in a movie now.

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_08]: All they play now or dads or joint chiefs.

[00:33:07] [SPEAKER_12]: Everyone you're just nothing but nothing private and an easy company.

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know your name but you rock man.

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_12]: But yeah,

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_12]: I've got an operation market garden now your professor Xavier.

[00:33:19] [SPEAKER_09]: Cool.

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to Cooper Holy fuck.

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_08]: It's on this of course.

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_08]: I forgot that Jimmy Phong was in a blink and a miss moment.

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, yeah, thankfully you thought you could do one of the if just only if they were been German sniper there.

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_08]: This is the perfect example is someone we can't stand to for somehow they had their shit together they realize we had.

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_08]: That's what I'm finding with every other celebrity.

[00:33:50] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I'm looking at.

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, older movies every once in a while from the 80s and 90s and I'll everyone's well I will be like man.

[00:33:58] [SPEAKER_08]: Remember when Stacy Dash or when it's palatrote or Tom Cruise actually came to work instead of just be an income poop.

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, and settle day.

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_08]: And it's just saddening because you look at all these other people is like how think they're even spoiled by success.

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_08]: I really think they have dropped their marbles and no one is man enough to tell them hey you're being a piece of shit right now.

[00:34:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, but your last movie made five billion so I can't just a five firing you which is garbage.

[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't care who you are if you're making me miserable you got to go.

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, but yeah, no I've never.

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_08]: I know no McDonald is a little off color with his politics off screen by here he's a pro on set.

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_08]: But as buck as the first listen and I he made sense to me how I saw him in every other kind of military type movie actually this.

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Uh, Dany Wahlberg probably the first thing I saw him in this.

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh yeah, yeah, but I was who and he's it's like you would for being an 80s.

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_12]: The boy band.

[00:35:03] [SPEAKER_12]: We had heart drop to being.

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_12]: What has been your character?

[00:35:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_12]: I might have been saw.

[00:35:10] [SPEAKER_12]: He's so happy.

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_08]: That's Mark.

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_08]: What an arc.

[00:35:17] Oh man.

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_11]: Then.

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_08]: And I never put it together growing up seeing him in six cents and I'm like oh he's related to that other rapper turn actor who.

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_08]: Just now.

[00:35:29] [SPEAKER_08]: I should I know I do.

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I mean, well, I think, Dany I think Dany is the better the two personally.

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:35:37] [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, Mark.

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_09]: Mark.

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_09]: Bro.

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_09]: What's hard.

[00:35:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Bro.

[00:35:48] [SPEAKER_09]: He can't.

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_09]: I can't.

[00:35:49] [SPEAKER_09]: It's like.

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_09]: I know how much I'm saying.

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_12]: He's in playing the half.

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_12]: But you've.

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_12]: You was bad.

[00:35:55] [SPEAKER_12]: I don't want.

[00:35:56] [SPEAKER_08]: There's a bit of that.

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Some of it's also like the rock and I.

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_08]: I pal Matt.

[00:36:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Poor year.

[00:36:01] [SPEAKER_08]: The director of a new coaster set at once where they're doing financial security.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_08]: And fortunately, I don't think anything's.

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_08]: I was about really had to do that.

[00:36:08] [SPEAKER_08]: Maybe you could argue Dany is doing that with that cop show and so fun.

[00:36:12] [SPEAKER_08]: I went for a bunch of that.

[00:36:14] [SPEAKER_08]: Cops show he was fine.

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_08]: And then I thought it was over.

[00:36:17] [SPEAKER_08]: And then next thing, you know, oh, renewed from five more years.

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm like, who has run that?

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_08]: I know.

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_11]: It's the criminal mind.

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_08]: It's like I love criminal minds, but there are two garbage seasons of that show.

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh my god.

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_12]: Or super natural.

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_12]: Like I.

[00:36:32] [SPEAKER_12]: Okay, I do like super natural.

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_12]: I will say they were like, they said like there's like two seasons like six and seven kind of fall off for me.

[00:36:39] [SPEAKER_12]: But like one through five is great.

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_12]: And what we have to do is correct.

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_12]: The correct good.

[00:36:43] [SPEAKER_08]: It's a little bit of a lie.

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_08]: Maybe the script's floating them down.

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_08]: But yeah.

[00:36:48] [SPEAKER_12]: And then when the funny dive like, okay, good.

[00:36:49] [SPEAKER_12]: You guys can rest now.

[00:36:51] [SPEAKER_08]: You can rest.

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_12]: Like your wounds and do something new.

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_12]: At least fits in the ankles keeps busy with voice acting.

[00:36:59] [SPEAKER_12]: So it does.

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_08]: Huh?

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_08]: So under it.

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_08]: And he played a story boy for God's sake.

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh my god.

[00:37:09] [SPEAKER_12]: That's for I mean definitely.

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_12]: I mean season three of the boys definitely turn around season two kind of lost me a little bit with the.

[00:37:17] [SPEAKER_12]: I don't know if it's like the boys to me.

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it's kind of like season three.

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_08]: Even seen from the door where you binge it, but it's easy to get lost because there's a lot of hallucinations and visions.

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_12]: I've never watched it.

[00:37:30] [SPEAKER_12]: I don't know.

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_12]: So jump on that.

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_12]: I've never watched like two seasons of breaking bad.

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_12]: And I was like, I'm done.

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_08]: That's fine.

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_08]: That's the other thing.

[00:37:38] [SPEAKER_08]: You're not going to piss me off because like I refuse to be pissed off.

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_08]: I see everybody else doing the well I didn't get into that.

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_08]: Shover the longest time because I was just like the only guys suggesting to this to me or you know high on their supplies and they haven't seen much so.

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Can you tell me best show ever?

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_08]: That's all hot.

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_08]: What does that mean?

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, you stretch and I a little bit of me.

[00:37:59] [SPEAKER_12]: I look at it.

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_12]: There's like 12 seasons like or whatever.

[00:38:02] [SPEAKER_12]: How long it's like.

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_12]: That's just daunting to me.

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_12]: Okay.

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_12]: And even the best show.

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_12]: I've been.

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_08]: Even the best show.

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_08]: You really only want to watch once or.

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Even then when you marathon, you're going to be like skipping that season.

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_08]: It makes me too uncooked or it's just.

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_08]: Man, it wasn't anything.

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_12]: It's like with the way I watch like Star Wars rebels, like I skipped entire first season.

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_12]: I think it's a telepolastic two episodes and I went online and I'm like, what episode should I watch and there's like, okay, I'm just going to watch this episode and I was fine.

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_12]: I was done with it.

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_12]: It was cool.

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh man, you can do that with the average show where you're watching the beginning and then the middle and the end boom.

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_08]: That the recap told me everything I needed and the rest was filler so didn't need it.

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_08]: And but this was like the first thing I think I saw or we just had episodes just collect.

[00:38:49] [SPEAKER_08]: If I just.

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_12]: Ready to go.

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_12]: I think Rome was another one that was like, yes, too.

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_08]: I can't really watch that.

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_08]: I'll let you know that was the morning that.

[00:39:02] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, that's.

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_11]: So good.

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_08]: And see that that's another one like I think it had the same kind of mentality.

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_08]: It despite having all kinds of you know crazy talent, you know, John Moly and some all people.

[00:39:15] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, kind of like deadwood had Walter Hill during the pilot is kind of like.

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_08]: One of those is like, age.

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_08]: I really didn't know how good they had it.

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_12]: Like it was like this kind of old narrative.

[00:39:27] [SPEAKER_08]: The fact that they fired David Simon after the writer strike and like you you guys deserve to lose ratings.

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry.

[00:39:33] [SPEAKER_08]: You tell me these guys you know how to inject realism.

[00:39:40] [SPEAKER_08]: And be good writers, you know, like they're not like some technical supervisor who.

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, does a sci-fi or war show.

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_08]: And then they have to have the producers come in and make their jargon be theatrical, you know, like.

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I don't know.

[00:39:58] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I don't need to have Stephen Bonskower and sort of punch it up now that I've made it laid it out as a simple English as I can.

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_08]: And it isn't like Star Trek or as far as where I have to predict who directed or did what episode because he can tell which one on closer inspection.

[00:40:15] [SPEAKER_08]: And like the exactly.

[00:40:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, and and Kudos like I think this was one of the first shows where I saw that hey, it didn't matter who held it like the same production the same effort was delivered each time.

[00:40:27] Yeah.

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_12]: And how like each episode kind of focused on one person.

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes.

[00:40:34] [SPEAKER_08]: Very good point.

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_08]: I like that lot.

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_08]: When seared Spears went in and killed a bunch of German prisoners.

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_08]: And that circulate, you know, not enough shows talk about war crimes, you know, obviously there's movies like casual days of war every other nom film but like that's second actually you don't really see it in real war too as much.

[00:40:54] [SPEAKER_08]: She just kind of had, you know,

[00:40:57] [SPEAKER_08]: We're cool.

[00:40:59] [SPEAKER_12]: Usually it's like usually the Nazis that they bad or like Japan, I mean they need to sorry they need to start with but the problem is Japan is such a close ally of us now even though they never had it for you know this little place called me and King.

[00:41:14] [SPEAKER_12]: You know, people tend to forget about it.

[00:41:17] [SPEAKER_08]: We're trying to re-emerge as we'll never answer any ship we don't.

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm not.

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_08]: I'll only do that for the very last job.

[00:41:27] [SPEAKER_08]: I think you know where I'll go with that.

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_08]: It's interesting how like that is true, like it is just one at a time narrative and it leads one into the next like.

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_08]: I think it's either episode one or two ends with them jumping off a plane. So I've got to make a run.

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_12]: I think that was episode one.

[00:41:49] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, yeah, one ends with them getting ready to go to the day.

[00:41:53] [SPEAKER_08]: What a way to check it out.

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_08]: You're looking forward as a viewer to next week as much like roots and it's much more all these other just epics and.

[00:42:04] [SPEAKER_12]: These like look like then you have like episodes with like focusing on bull or focusing on dog and you have one with.

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, you kind of like zoom in like you feel like you so get the big feel of them all.

[00:42:17] [SPEAKER_12]: But it's really about them which is really cool I think.

[00:42:22] [SPEAKER_08]: Totally. And you got to sense the urgency is like yeah, you're going to have time to make one shitty joke and then.

[00:42:32] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, my door.

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah exactly. It's like, oh, it comes in coming like in I think.

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_12]: Kind of showing that it's not just a two hour firefight like there's walls on the combat. You're spending time like telling dick jerks and that kind of stuff.

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, we were we were childish back then we're shall this now.

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_12]: Okay, you talk you talked to any like old bed.

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_12]: There you like.

[00:42:57] [SPEAKER_12]: The reason is on the military the same don't shit I did.

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, making a dick jump.

[00:43:05] [SPEAKER_12]: Guess what you know.

[00:43:08] [SPEAKER_12]: There there are p it there is dick drones and bathrooms from now to back in.

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_08]: And so they're in the winter stage, they're having to take shelter in episodes where and places where someone might have already done their business so to speak and that's our reality is like be careful where you.

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_08]: Can relieve yourself during the.

[00:43:31] [SPEAKER_12]: And you're going to you're going to bitch and complain the entire time, which is my thank you for really showing that they just like I'm stuck at a be a man. No, you're going to bitch and play in 24.

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_12]: And nothing's going to change.

[00:43:42] [SPEAKER_12]: You're just doing as a coping mechanism for how awful your situation is.

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_12]: He's me in a misery loves company.

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, man.

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_08]: And they did a good job having some of the British actors play Americans, especially Stephen Graham.

[00:44:02] [SPEAKER_08]: And all together I mean it just this was also just kind of I'm just kind of just this day and age where people would actually.

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_08]: Do their best to.

[00:44:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Again, make it look like a documentary instead of.

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_08]: Shake the camera away too much to be like I cannot see a thing.

[00:44:24] [SPEAKER_12]: No, and then the times it is chaotic it's like okay, well, I understand why I didn't look for it.

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, right there's a reason behind it, but then you have like spears just sprinting through the trip that town and you can just kind of watch it happen.

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_12]: You don't need like nowadays if you took some director nowadays, you probably put that in like first person mode and all you'd hear is his mouth breathing.

[00:44:50] [SPEAKER_12]: I want to hear that. I want to actually happen. I'm not going to speak to you.

[00:44:55] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, yeah, it's too much like an actual video game. I want that.

[00:45:00] [SPEAKER_12]: No, I'm sorry that this I'll play cold dude if I want that I'll play cold duty.

[00:45:06] [SPEAKER_12]: Just not online because I don't need to hear you know, I don't need to be too bad by a five year old machine.

[00:45:13] [SPEAKER_12]: I was there called duty model work for it to in the lobby. It wasn't a good.

[00:45:24] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't know anyone who hates this maceers. I really don't.

[00:45:29] [SPEAKER_12]: I don't think so either. I've never been. I usually it's a lot of the best of the street.

[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, there's nothing to talk about more personal preference. But obviously I think it earned everything.

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, and it's like the legacy that it has it's almost timeless.

[00:45:52] [SPEAKER_12]: Just as good as when we watch him when we're younger and just as good we're watching him now.

[00:45:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I mean, it helps that it's about an earlier period.

[00:46:01] [SPEAKER_12]: Exactly.

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I mean, but I'll have some game good directors and everything.

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah,

[00:46:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah,

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_08]: I get it.

[00:46:23] [SPEAKER_08]: It's hard to me.

[00:46:25] [SPEAKER_08]: And I can't even tell you the last good one.

[00:46:27] [SPEAKER_08]: I think I saw maybe the kill team. I'm saying, a scar to guard maybe but it's so hard to get a movie that just hasn't been done to death.

[00:46:37] [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah,

[00:46:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Did you see devotion?

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_12]: With the.

[00:46:47] [SPEAKER_08]: I did see that. Yeah, with the job of the majors.

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_12]: The majors.

[00:46:51] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I.

[00:46:56] [SPEAKER_12]: I.

[00:46:57] [SPEAKER_12]: I have to love it, but I also were the book to on it and the production of that was even crazy too.

[00:47:03] [SPEAKER_12]: But.

[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_08]: It's actually, I mean, because they're in they got it's missedifying how long a lot of these just earned development.

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Really.

[00:47:16] Yeah,

[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah,

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_12]: And the fact that you know a lot of time I think to you know, these people I mean, what was a hard to pin down.

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_12]: Maybe people love it and not don't think people want them as much people remember the bad ones and I like not trust me.

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_08]: This is not Pearl Harbor when doctors and you're seeing people do the same shit.

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_12]: Exactly.

[00:47:37] [SPEAKER_12]: I think at least when talkers had excuse and having John Lou right in the cage like, okay, let's see what's going to happen here.

[00:47:45] [SPEAKER_12]: Like it's more like morbid curiosity with Pearl Harbor.

[00:47:48] [SPEAKER_12]: Well, it's something happens.

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_12]: Pearl Harbor, so I guess they got that part right, but yeah.

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_12]: It's about it as well as close to the community.

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_08]: It is not and I don't even like that one.

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_12]: No, if you just watch from your two journey, if you want.

[00:48:04] [SPEAKER_12]: You have to go through the road like we have to go through the road.

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_12]: We need to go through the road.

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_12]: Don't try.

[00:48:10] [SPEAKER_12]: Leave it to the adults in the room.

[00:48:11] [SPEAKER_12]: Go do your three.

[00:48:15] [SPEAKER_12]: 60 slow.

[00:48:16] [SPEAKER_12]: I love screaming.

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Get it recently with.

[00:48:21] [SPEAKER_08]: Wasn't the one.

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_08]: 37 hours.

[00:48:25] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.

[00:48:26] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_08]: Now he's back to doing bad boys and rock.

[00:48:31] [SPEAKER_08]: It was.

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_08]: There's no, there's no.

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_08]: There's no.

[00:48:35] [SPEAKER_12]: Which actually, you know, I will stand by that movie.

[00:48:39] [SPEAKER_12]: Actually, it's very well done.

[00:48:41] [SPEAKER_08]: But it's just like I say, it's just what we're going to, I mean, you were talking role in every movie.

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_08]: It does seem like.

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, I think it helps that we've seen all these people who have had scandals like Brian Singer where we realize, you know,

[00:48:54] [SPEAKER_08]: really only about the team.

[00:48:57] [SPEAKER_08]: And it's really, everyone keeps thinking it's the cameras.

[00:49:00] [SPEAKER_08]: It's the money is like, well, it's really the attitude on set.

[00:49:05] [SPEAKER_08]: And sometimes it it a lot of our movies that are supposedly good for craps shoots and they founded in the editing room.

[00:49:13] [SPEAKER_08]: So I mean, I hope a lot of people keep realizing he's like.

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Every bad filmmaker has a good movie even.

[00:49:21] [SPEAKER_08]: Good filmmakers have a dud so I mean, it.

[00:49:24] [SPEAKER_08]: It really doesn't matter who helps it is like what's the attitude.

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_08]: I can be a good teacher, but if I have a class that's not willing to learn, it's going to be a shit show.

[00:49:34] [SPEAKER_12]: Exactly.

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, and I had.

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_12]: I've never been on the research so I can tell you.

[00:49:44] [SPEAKER_08]: I think I got it.

[00:49:46] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, yeah, I actually know I did take that back.

[00:49:49] [SPEAKER_12]: I was on.

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_12]: I was an extra once and this extra live hold.

[00:49:56] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, right it was a Southland the houses called Graceland.

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_12]: It was a like undercover narcotics show on US.

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so like that's the.

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_12]: That's good for that.

[00:50:17] [SPEAKER_12]: I got like, I can somehow get the hook up hook up like you put looking for extras to play swatting guys.

[00:50:27] [SPEAKER_12]: I called the best.

[00:50:29] [SPEAKER_12]: I've done this stuff before.

[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_12]: You're going to make you 500 bucks over how much it is, but yeah, that was chaotic.

[00:50:35] [SPEAKER_12]: It was a lot of sitting around.

[00:50:37] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, it's like I could not do that.

[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_08]: I could do it.

[00:50:41] [SPEAKER_12]: No, I'm like, I'm good.

[00:50:43] [SPEAKER_08]: It was a little need me, you don't need.

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_08]: I feel like that doctor makes up for it's like, oh, but the food's going to attract.

[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_12]: I had I had a drive to Miami, which is about two are driving me in.

[00:50:52] [SPEAKER_12]: He drives me because Miami is where traffic laws go to die.

[00:51:00] [SPEAKER_12]: And there's you have mixture of Cuba and the Medicaid Puerto Rican, Haitian, Honduran and then Caucasian.

[00:51:08] [SPEAKER_12]: So it's like a melting pot of languages and nobody speaks the same language.

[00:51:15] [SPEAKER_12]: The rose don't make sense nothing makes sense out there.

[00:51:18] [SPEAKER_12]: It's the further south you go and Florida, that's more just good luck.

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_12]: Yes.

[00:51:26] [SPEAKER_11]: Sorry.

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_08]: Whoa, is that was us?

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_09]: So here we are with the Pacific.

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_08]: 2010 fall up.

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_08]: So this will I'll be frank, this was a wind I started and then I finished like five years later.

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_08]: Three different regiments the first fifth and seventh.

[00:51:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Marine first Marine division and.

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Screamed up by Vanderbreder's writer Bruce C. McKenna and yeah.

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_08]: I was already a fan of James Badgedale he had been on rescue me 24 you might know him as one of the moles and the departed.

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_08]: He's met.

[00:52:18] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, if actually was even in there.

[00:52:22] [SPEAKER_12]: Hold it dark 13 hours.

[00:52:25] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, he's like the best thing about the lone ranger garbage maybe like I can never see it.

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't have any plan that you know you never need to but I mean like he's in the consumer.

[00:52:38] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, that the best part is he's in like the first five minutes as the brother who dies at the beginning.

[00:52:42] [SPEAKER_08]: So he has an epic moment.

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_08]: He wins you can't say he's the worst part he's the best but he's the best he got his paycheck at last.

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, but he's been on 1923 the Yellowstone spin off as well as high town stars and.

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, he always came off to me is like.

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Very reasonable guy just down to my hand he used to be in construction and he if that's how we approached acting.

[00:53:12] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, like I see him I am I follow on Instagram and see you.

[00:53:17] [SPEAKER_12]: Right on the beat with this dog.

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_12]: I'm not afraid for you. Good for you.

[00:53:22] [SPEAKER_12]: You can't be able to see him hanging out with the dog there's computer.

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, someone tells me he assaulted someone I'm going to be like yeah, I'm going to need to see.

[00:53:33] [SPEAKER_12]: That's that's what's final the evidence first.

[00:53:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Like James Badgedale is got a curly hair I don't think he he doesn't come off to me as a shady time who wants to hide behind lawyers and fame.

[00:53:45] [SPEAKER_12]: No, no, it's funny like James Badgedale is not acting he was kind of like a 7th California in Hobo.

[00:53:54] [SPEAKER_12]: Like you see a long hair with like that you like your Parker smells like the truly probably.

[00:54:02] [SPEAKER_12]: You probably know where to get some really good trim tacos.

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_08]: He probably has lived every kind of life so I think that's maybe why he gets it he is so fortunate so he's not going to miss be hey like some of these other guys who had nothing and then the minute they got famous they became.

[00:54:15] [SPEAKER_08]: And then he did a little bit of a kind of a little bit of an asshole.

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, exactly never taught me. He also was a school, could he, could he about him he actually narrates Robert, like he's book for audiobook.

[00:54:26] [SPEAKER_12]: Whoa yeah.

[00:54:28] [SPEAKER_08]: I was like.

[00:54:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Cool.

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_08]: That's something.

[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_12]: That's that's what my pillow.

[00:54:37] [SPEAKER_12]: It's just called hell went from a pillow.

[00:54:39] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, my.

[00:54:40] [SPEAKER_12]: It's a pillow.

[00:54:45] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm going to get to a good.

[00:54:47] [SPEAKER_08]: There's lots of good going wrong in all these but.

[00:54:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Just.

[00:54:54] [SPEAKER_08]: I think you know you start off with Tom hangs new rating and so that's that's getting you back in the mood you have.

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_08]: John Cida as John best alone who was.

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm a head of honor winner in real life you probably know him from early off show roles on homicide and Chicago fire pity but.

[00:55:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I had always heard his name and he had opt up and a bunch of stuff like Selena and had voice to but I was one of those I don't I didn't really know the face it's kind of like Jean Carlos, but see earlier I I heard that name I didn't know.

[00:55:29] [SPEAKER_08]: Who you look like but I knew you were a thing because you're in all these prominent popular.

[00:55:35] [SPEAKER_08]: And the first guy here is a lot of things.

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_08]: He's Dean Dino and Oz is the first guy you guys.

[00:55:45] So yeah,

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_08]: Lots of big big directors expels director David Nutter, Carl Franklin who you might know from some of the better Denzel Washington suspense films.

[00:55:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Graham Yosting directed an episode so he went again, you know for a man who's written blog posters like the last castle and speed and then part of the writing staff on the issue.

[00:56:05] [SPEAKER_08]: And then he gets to be in the director's chair I applaud him.

[00:56:09] [SPEAKER_08]: I've been listening to the 50 miles per hour podcast and just want a man who's just.

[00:56:15] [SPEAKER_08]: I see so many writers who also grow a big head and he's just one of those he is just so happy to.

[00:56:21] [SPEAKER_08]: Just again, bring any kind of vision to life he's very patient because he realizes how long the development process is and he's all about just.

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_08]: I'll rewrite it if it's not working, you know,

[00:56:34] [SPEAKER_08]: And that's why he's had so many co credits on better or lesser movies because he also is.

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_08]: He was a script doctor for a while, so I think this is cool to see people like that finally in the chair.

[00:56:48] [SPEAKER_12]: I think guys like also like this is what I think David airs doesn't enough credit for his writing.

[00:56:55] [SPEAKER_12]: Compliment these are definitely hit or miss but his writing I think.

[00:57:00] [SPEAKER_12]: Yep, is really good like he knows how to write.

[00:57:05] [SPEAKER_12]: More because of this time I think a lot of the comes from his time in the military and being close quarters with people is very.

[00:57:10] [SPEAKER_12]: It's a personal relationship and unfortunately he gets stuck with some really shitty directors for his work correct.

[00:57:18] [SPEAKER_12]: I think yep.

[00:57:20] [SPEAKER_12]: I've actually been right.

[00:57:22] [SPEAKER_12]: Which break could have been pretty good, but unfortunately you get stuck with a shaker.

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_08]: He held it but he has max land is max land is.

[00:57:33] [SPEAKER_08]: I just like.

[00:57:35] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I think should really write suicide squad you can tell suicide squad was rude was just written all like that wasn't his vision.

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_08]: I've been to talk to him on Twitter.

[00:57:46] [SPEAKER_12]: Okay, he's a cool guy.

[00:57:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, and very very active is very.

[00:57:54] [SPEAKER_08]: I've been so fortunate with him and even Lou Diamond Phillips of all people and just they are all about their brand but they are not about overmarking themselves or giving artificial answers and letting their.

[00:58:06] [SPEAKER_08]: You know.

[00:58:07] [SPEAKER_08]: They're team respond you know animatronically like it is like I am putting it all behind me I'm moving on he is all.

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_08]: He reminds me of Robert Talon as just someone who's done all kind of the vision rose and.

[00:58:23] [SPEAKER_08]: Since he's close to it he's willing to even talk shit about it himself if he.

[00:58:28] [SPEAKER_08]: See something that he could do better and yeah.

[00:58:32] [SPEAKER_08]: So for that point on he's like yeah no I'm going back to our communities I'm not doing anymore super or shit anymore.

[00:58:38] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, yeah that's what I like.

[00:58:41] [SPEAKER_12]: Keep doing fury maybe another you know I look I I defend you five seven one only has a movie historically it's not accurate all yeah.

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_12]: It's a game good the guns and never once it's damn fun watch.

[00:58:55] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it's not of.

[00:58:58] [SPEAKER_12]: You know what are the struggles significant but it's a good movie.

[00:59:02] [SPEAKER_12]: I will say it's it's a compliment it's a it's a compliment movie it's fun to watch but that's that's not here.

[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_12]: We're talking about this all this we're talking about the same fine I so this one.

[00:59:13] [SPEAKER_08]: I had no doubt about any of the accuracy and everything I think but once again because I just seem so many just in the Philippines.

[00:59:21] [SPEAKER_08]: Biting movies I just had.

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_08]: There weren't any battles that really stood out to me and I couldn't really I could tell the characters apart but I didn't find either archery interesting but they were woke as a mal acted it was just kind of man to decent for me.

[00:59:37] [SPEAKER_12]: That's fair I I accept that criticism it's me is my I like it I it's kind of like.

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_12]: I don't know but it's not a better movie than prior to what that makes sense only so like the Pacific I enjoy watching it more because.

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_12]: It's just this world there's a lot then maybe a marine like kind of.

[01:00:07] [SPEAKER_12]: Kind of a little bit more partial to it but I think Bannon brothers is better in terms of more character development you get invested more characters with the Pacific it's usually it's the only the main point of views is Eugene sledge.

[01:00:22] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah and probably like which are the two sources they pulled from so they pulled so what do you believe in.

[01:00:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I believe in ammunition.

[01:00:36] [SPEAKER_02]: I'm the remote scared of my entire life.

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_02]: Every dance what we go south they'll get me and I mean it you better get me too.

[01:00:49] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to look at your eyes someday because you know spark no love in life.

[01:00:55] [SPEAKER_02]: I would have hurt my heart.

[01:00:58] [SPEAKER_04]: Here we go boy.

[01:01:10] [SPEAKER_02]: History is full of wars.

[01:01:13] [SPEAKER_02]: Fuck for a hundred reasons but this war.

[01:01:20] [SPEAKER_02]: I want to believe I have to believe.

[01:01:24] [SPEAKER_02]: Every man is wounded and I lose and it's all worthwhile because our cause is tough.

[01:01:30] [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what you're gonna do.

[01:01:36] [SPEAKER_12]: We'll do it.

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_12]: Robert lucky how much my pillow and then you can sludge this in with the old room or out with the old room.

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_12]: I think it's okay with the old.

[01:01:47] [SPEAKER_08]: It's something like that I guess because that had been done to that I can't really tell and be.

[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Arc apart I was just like and in five four free to one they're going to be banging a pretty nurse or chef.

[01:02:00] [SPEAKER_08]: And then you're going to go to war.

[01:02:02] [SPEAKER_12]: And not really happens.

[01:02:04] [SPEAKER_12]: It's pretty miserable, you know?

[01:02:05] [SPEAKER_12]: But then you're like, yeah, life in this office,

[01:02:07] [SPEAKER_12]: if it was awful, just awful.

[01:02:11] [SPEAKER_12]: There's no, there's no way around it.

[01:02:13] [SPEAKER_12]: It was you, you were either getting killed by Japanese,

[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_12]: you were getting attacked by malaria,

[01:02:20] [SPEAKER_12]: your, you know, dysentery,

[01:02:22] [SPEAKER_12]: a double rock, like this thing called Chimurot,

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_12]: which is, sounds awful.

[01:02:28] [SPEAKER_12]: On top of having the wrong equipment,

[01:02:30] [SPEAKER_12]: like this is true, the Marine Corps,

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_12]: well, what's it kind of raging?

[01:02:34] [SPEAKER_12]: They do explain something on that.

[01:02:36] [SPEAKER_08]: I guess I just forget about it because they go back

[01:02:38] [SPEAKER_08]: to having a dinner conversation followed by them

[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_08]: in the trenches.

[01:02:41] [SPEAKER_08]: So I guess, I don't know, I guess the editing

[01:02:43] [SPEAKER_08]: just took me out of it.

[01:02:45] [SPEAKER_12]: It's a little scatter shot.

[01:02:49] No, I'm sorry.

[01:02:52] [SPEAKER_12]: But there are moments that I really appreciate

[01:02:53] [SPEAKER_12]: in the kind of nerding out a little bit here,

[01:02:57] [SPEAKER_12]: like some of the, when there were a lot of community good,

[01:02:59] [SPEAKER_12]: when there were a lot of canal,

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_12]: and you see Robert Lecky watching

[01:03:04] [SPEAKER_12]: in the, in the, in the Marines watching,

[01:03:06] [SPEAKER_12]: I may have an engagement.

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER_12]: Well, that was the battle of Iron Bottom Sound,

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_12]: which was a main channel

[01:03:11] [SPEAKER_12]: that the Japanese used to resupply their troops

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_12]: on the walk canal,

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_12]: and then we had a carer group watching that area

[01:03:18] [SPEAKER_12]: in the big explosion was a Japanese ship.

[01:03:23] [SPEAKER_12]: I think it's called that.

[01:03:24] [SPEAKER_12]: Otosuki, I think it was that.

[01:03:26] [SPEAKER_12]: I can't, I don't know.

[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_12]: Basically, I don't know.

[01:03:33] [SPEAKER_12]: I can't, I can't, I can't,

[01:03:34] [SPEAKER_12]: okay, that's also a lot of,

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_12]: I think it was happy to be a crew to basically

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_12]: an American round puncture the magazine

[01:03:39] [SPEAKER_12]: and blew that thing over hell.

[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_12]: That's this.

[01:03:43] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.

[01:03:45] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, so that, they will engage with it

[01:03:49] [SPEAKER_12]: has one of my favorite ships all time.

[01:03:50] [SPEAKER_12]: I'm a huge destroyer fan, like I don't know if you're about

[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_12]: because he basically,

[01:03:55] [SPEAKER_12]: the standing time I watched him move

[01:03:56] [SPEAKER_12]: and I was like,

[01:03:57] [SPEAKER_08]: I got a small compliment.

[01:03:58] [SPEAKER_09]: So I'm like,

[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_09]: I just got 400 kills.

[01:04:03] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, pretty much.

[01:04:05] [SPEAKER_12]: It was the last one.

[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_12]: It was the last one.

[01:04:07] [SPEAKER_12]: Which was the, I call it,

[01:04:09] [SPEAKER_12]: I call it the ship.

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_12]: There's two A and B to die

[01:04:10] [SPEAKER_12]: because what happened was the Japanese flagship

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_12]: the,

[01:04:18] [SPEAKER_12]: it was a comb that class battleship.

[01:04:20] [SPEAKER_12]: So basically the battleship size lower

[01:04:22] [SPEAKER_12]: than the Yawamoto class,

[01:04:23] [SPEAKER_12]: which obviously was the largest,

[01:04:24] [SPEAKER_12]: when large battleships

[01:04:27] [SPEAKER_12]: had engaged the American force

[01:04:29] [SPEAKER_12]: isn't as the USS San Francisco,

[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_12]: which was the capill ship of that group.

[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_12]: And here comes the Lafay.

[01:04:37] [SPEAKER_12]: This little tiny destroyer with five inch guns

[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_12]: just comes in and just starts blasting

[01:04:42] [SPEAKER_12]: and this battleship.

[01:04:45] [SPEAKER_12]: This combat class battleship.

[01:04:46] [SPEAKER_12]: It was,

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_12]: and they targeted,

[01:04:48] [SPEAKER_12]: their five inch guns couldn't penetrate the hole

[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_12]: but they targeted the bridge.

[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_12]: So they actually blew up the bridge

[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_12]: and then it was said they were so close

[01:04:56] [SPEAKER_12]: that the Japanese guns could traverse down

[01:04:59] [SPEAKER_12]: the Lafay in the guys are so close

[01:05:02] [SPEAKER_12]: and they actually engage with their personal weapons.

[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, that sounded about right.

[01:05:07] [SPEAKER_08]: So yeah, instead of the Lafay when I ran around

[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_08]: waiting to get bombed.

[01:05:11] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, the Lafay uses like,

[01:05:14] [SPEAKER_12]: full sand,

[01:05:16] [SPEAKER_12]: just absolutely,

[01:05:17] [SPEAKER_12]: like I laughed,

[01:05:18] [SPEAKER_12]: I'm sorry about it.

[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_12]: And then later on the Lafay actually took

[01:05:21] [SPEAKER_12]: like 12 comma cause hits,

[01:05:23] [SPEAKER_12]: the cap on ticket,

[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_12]: like the ship was literally too angry to die.

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_11]: But that was that makes sense.

[01:05:28] [SPEAKER_12]: The US Navy is the destroyers.

[01:05:29] [SPEAKER_12]: We're just,

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_12]: they put a big part

[01:05:34] [SPEAKER_12]: and then the,

[01:05:36] [SPEAKER_12]: you know,

[01:05:36] [SPEAKER_12]: Battle of Guadalax,

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_12]: and the boat.

[01:05:38] [SPEAKER_12]: The Battle of Guadalax,

[01:05:39] [SPEAKER_12]: it's not as a big part of Marine Corps history

[01:05:42] [SPEAKER_12]: because that's where John passed

[01:05:43] [SPEAKER_12]: when one is in the Lvonner.

[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_12]: he took,

[01:05:48] [SPEAKER_12]: he basically repaired and got three machines down

[01:05:52] [SPEAKER_12]: down.

[01:05:53] [SPEAKER_08]: He is given a lot to do.

[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_08]: So I do a podcasting that,

[01:05:58] [SPEAKER_08]: I would probably say this is somewhere up there

[01:06:00] [SPEAKER_08]: as one of the better shows about

[01:06:02] [SPEAKER_08]: the E wouldjima invasion.

[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_08]: I still love letters from E wouldjima,

[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_08]: probably the best.

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[01:06:10] [SPEAKER_08]: It's just, I guess I'm just spoiled.

[01:06:12] [SPEAKER_08]: I've seen so many movies where there's nothing

[01:06:15] [SPEAKER_08]: happening is like,

[01:06:16] [SPEAKER_08]: I know I,

[01:06:16] [SPEAKER_08]: I know no things gonna happen,

[01:06:19] [SPEAKER_08]: but

[01:06:20] [SPEAKER_08]: I think,

[01:06:20] [SPEAKER_08]: so but the final,

[01:06:22] [SPEAKER_08]: I want to say free episodes.

[01:06:24] [SPEAKER_08]: I think our pretty electric,

[01:06:27] [SPEAKER_12]: I think sledgestoring is more

[01:06:30] [SPEAKER_12]: interesting than blackies.

[01:06:34] Yeah.

[01:06:36] [SPEAKER_12]: You guys, you got this sick kid from Alabama,

[01:06:37] [SPEAKER_12]: what else do you just want to go fight

[01:06:39] [SPEAKER_12]: in the world?

[01:06:40] [SPEAKER_12]: Or yeah.

[01:06:42] [SPEAKER_09]: Good old, how would they?

[01:06:43] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[01:06:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, but yeah.

[01:06:47] [SPEAKER_08]: And, you know,

[01:06:48] [SPEAKER_08]: there's a Spielberg kid.

[01:06:52] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.

[01:06:53] [SPEAKER_08]: He was 10 Murphy.

[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, I see Park.

[01:06:56] [SPEAKER_08]: That's right.

[01:06:58] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.

[01:06:59] [SPEAKER_12]: That's from that.

[01:07:00] [SPEAKER_12]: He was like fighting a loss of rap there

[01:07:02] [SPEAKER_12]: to fight in Japanese.

[01:07:03] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah.

[01:07:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Defiding Zuckerberg and the social network.

[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_12]: I mean,

[01:07:10] [SPEAKER_12]: I wasn't that one time.

[01:07:12] [SPEAKER_12]: Only because of my huge,

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_12]: I see,

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_12]: I see,

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_12]: I see,

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_12]: I see,

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_12]: I see,

[01:07:13] [SPEAKER_12]: I see,

[01:07:16] [SPEAKER_12]: You're a kid that deserves a swirly.

[01:07:20] [SPEAKER_12]: Shut up to a locker.

[01:07:21] [SPEAKER_12]: You did you job too good?

[01:07:23] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, you did.

[01:07:25] [SPEAKER_12]: You're so I don't know if you're playing a character

[01:07:27] [SPEAKER_12]: that just who you are.

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it's like that one scene in first

[01:07:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Bueller where he's doing the prank.

[01:07:31] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, you're so.

[01:07:35] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh,

[01:07:39] [SPEAKER_08]: so.

[01:07:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh,

[01:07:41] [SPEAKER_08]: so fun for life.

[01:07:42] [SPEAKER_08]: It's not well delved into as much,

[01:07:44] [SPEAKER_08]: but the battles that they're on fire,

[01:07:46] [SPEAKER_08]: and they are showing you,

[01:07:47] [SPEAKER_08]: because like I said earlier,

[01:07:49] [SPEAKER_08]: it's big detail on what's actually on the carriers,

[01:07:52] [SPEAKER_08]: how they infiltrate the islands.

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_08]: How the enemy is on scene most of the time

[01:07:57] [SPEAKER_08]: and by the time you react to fucking light,

[01:07:59] [SPEAKER_08]: you've lost the leg,

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_08]: your half-flake's gone down.

[01:08:04] [SPEAKER_12]: I think some more visceral than Banner Brothers.

[01:08:09] Oh, my God.

[01:08:10] [SPEAKER_12]: Banner Brothers definitely has a chair of,

[01:08:12] [SPEAKER_12]: you know,

[01:08:12] [SPEAKER_12]: the gorge and full wounds in that,

[01:08:15] [SPEAKER_12]: but just the pacific,

[01:08:16] [SPEAKER_12]: I think just kind of ants it up a little bit more.

[01:08:19] [SPEAKER_12]: Where they, where they lack in character.

[01:08:21] [SPEAKER_12]: I was like, character, a little bit of character,

[01:08:23] [SPEAKER_12]: but just the,

[01:08:25] [SPEAKER_12]: the body makes a report.

[01:08:26] [SPEAKER_12]: But they make a report.

[01:08:28] [SPEAKER_12]: And the gun porn and the battles.

[01:08:33] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, I've heard of.

[01:08:34] [SPEAKER_12]: I think so.

[01:08:36] [SPEAKER_09]: I will definitely watch it.

[01:08:40] [SPEAKER_12]: I don't know, shitty like the Iron Hopping Campaign.

[01:08:44] [SPEAKER_08]: Well, that just a two.

[01:08:45] [SPEAKER_08]: Like if anything,

[01:08:47] [SPEAKER_08]: that's why I could go back to Pride Riders.

[01:08:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Like they're not so much an antiwar movie

[01:08:51] [SPEAKER_08]: as they are just its sucks,

[01:08:54] [SPEAKER_08]: its sucks, don't ever list,

[01:08:56] [SPEAKER_08]: don't ever, don't do it.

[01:08:58] [SPEAKER_11]: Yeah.

[01:08:59] [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, I'm just saddening include the,

[01:09:05] [SPEAKER_12]: the devil duck that we, that the Marines.

[01:09:09] [SPEAKER_12]: Somehow one, they want to duck in a poker game

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_12]: and it came with them at the battle Taroa.

[01:09:15] [SPEAKER_12]: Like an actual duck?

[01:09:17] [SPEAKER_12]: A duck.

[01:09:20] [SPEAKER_12]: The thing is, it was like,

[01:09:21] [SPEAKER_12]: cybersharm something that,

[01:09:23] [SPEAKER_12]: yeah, they jump some trump rings,

[01:09:25] [SPEAKER_12]: want it in New Zealand when they're on leave

[01:09:27] [SPEAKER_12]: and took it with them,

[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_12]: I think there's a battle,

[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_12]: I think there's single pull,

[01:09:30] [SPEAKER_12]: you don't see the puller.

[01:09:33] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I think there's a battle.

[01:09:34] [SPEAKER_09]: It's a tie land to get a tarot.

[01:09:36] [SPEAKER_12]: It's a fighter.

[01:09:36] [SPEAKER_12]: It's a battle on and the duck actually,

[01:09:38] [SPEAKER_12]: the duck actually attacked a Japanese chicken

[01:09:42] [SPEAKER_12]: and beat it up apparently.

[01:09:46] [SPEAKER_12]: And like it's going to be a weird tall tails

[01:09:48] [SPEAKER_12]: but the Marines also force fed it beer

[01:09:52] [SPEAKER_12]: and it spoke cigarettes.

[01:09:54] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh my shit.

[01:09:56] [SPEAKER_12]: So,

[01:09:58] [SPEAKER_12]: how I guess this is why they tell us

[01:09:59] [SPEAKER_12]: don't fuck with the wildlife.

[01:10:05] [SPEAKER_08]: Hey.

[01:10:06] [SPEAKER_08]: The fighters say the environment says don't mess with the wildlife.

[01:10:10] [SPEAKER_08]: I guess there's just says don't mess with the carriers.

[01:10:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Don't keep the cameras.

[01:10:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Don't, don't, don't seek my battleship.

[01:10:19] [SPEAKER_08]: I'll come to you later.

[01:10:23] [SPEAKER_12]: There's plenty of the,

[01:10:25] [SPEAKER_12]: well, you think it's like a office means like,

[01:10:26] [SPEAKER_12]: well, Jim, why do you drop a bomb?

[01:10:30] [SPEAKER_12]: Drop two bombs on me.

[01:10:32] [SPEAKER_12]: Well, you fucked with my boats.

[01:10:33] I'm not gonna let you go.

[01:10:35] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh man,

[01:10:38] [SPEAKER_12]: it's America's ass, no it's good.

[01:10:41] [SPEAKER_12]: If you fuck with our boats,

[01:10:42] [SPEAKER_12]: you'll quickly find out

[01:10:43] [SPEAKER_12]: what we don't have free health care.

[01:10:45] [SPEAKER_09]: What's the market in those things?

[01:10:46] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh my God.

[01:10:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh my God.

[01:10:52] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh man.

[01:10:54] [SPEAKER_11]: So years go by literally a,

[01:10:59] [SPEAKER_08]: wow, I can't believe it.

[01:11:01] [SPEAKER_08]: So 14 years go by.

[01:11:03] [SPEAKER_08]: We had 20, 20 floors.

[01:11:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Masters of the air.

[01:11:09] [SPEAKER_09]: Say what I mean?

[01:11:13] [SPEAKER_02]: I go with Ryan to his heart and find.

[01:11:19] [SPEAKER_11]: None if you know what it looks.

[01:11:21] [SPEAKER_03]: Unless you ever say that.

[01:11:25] [SPEAKER_03]: Major, you can,

[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_03]: you were the first pilot assigned at the 100th.

[01:11:28] [SPEAKER_03]: We have buck level.

[01:11:29] [SPEAKER_03]: You are in charge of 35 planes and 350 air crewmen.

[01:11:35] [SPEAKER_03]: Don't you die on me before I get over there?

[01:11:40] [SPEAKER_04]: Something big is brewing.

[01:11:42] [SPEAKER_03]: The 8th will be sent in up to largest air

[01:11:44] [SPEAKER_03]: on Mount Everest, symbol in the history of mankind.

[01:11:48] [SPEAKER_03]: Just training to Hitler's territory.

[01:11:52] [SPEAKER_04]: Then incomplete and total air superiority.

[01:11:55] [SPEAKER_04]: That's the mission.

[01:11:59] [SPEAKER_03]: You might be the last pretty face I ever see.

[01:12:16] [SPEAKER_02]: That's the mission.

[01:12:19] [SPEAKER_02]: We'll lead our poistro.

[01:12:24] [SPEAKER_02]: All then we do.

[01:12:27] [SPEAKER_02]: Day in, day out.

[01:12:29] [SPEAKER_02]: The sun to guide on it.

[01:12:32] [SPEAKER_02]: We need to fight the monsters.

[01:12:34] [SPEAKER_02]: The things these people are capable of.

[01:12:37] [SPEAKER_02]: And they got to come in.

[01:12:38] [SPEAKER_00]: We trust me.

[01:12:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Lord Garden guide the men who fly through the great spaces of the sky.

[01:12:48] [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, we trust Steady Men on what?

[01:12:50] Sigh!

[01:12:51] [SPEAKER_00]: Be with them traversing the air and darkening storms.

[01:12:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Or sunshine fair.

[01:12:58] [SPEAKER_06]: I think we may be done.

[01:12:59] [SPEAKER_06]: We are going to shit air attacking.

[01:13:01] [SPEAKER_06]: We're going to shoot what our mission is on as we can fly.

[01:13:05] [SPEAKER_08]: We won't go without a fight.

[01:13:10] [SPEAKER_08]: I was hyped for this ship.

[01:13:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Apple TV was taking us to.

[01:13:15] [SPEAKER_08]: And it gets delayed due to COVID

[01:13:17] [SPEAKER_08]: and they're like, just they've got a way to their year.

[01:13:19] [SPEAKER_08]: We're in post like fucking hell.

[01:13:22] [SPEAKER_08]: This better be good.

[01:13:25] [SPEAKER_08]: So a little background Blake Neely was one of the composers for Pacific Returns.

[01:13:31] [SPEAKER_08]: I've always liked a lot of his video game and TV themes,

[01:13:37] [SPEAKER_08]: but like, I don't know why.

[01:13:38] [SPEAKER_08]: Like I feel like crying all day is listening to this.

[01:13:43] [SPEAKER_08]: He's done all kinds of stuff, including into the West for TNT.

[01:13:50] [SPEAKER_08]: Everwood and just all just innumerable genres.

[01:13:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Like, just all kinds of stuff to where you're like, yeah.

[01:13:58] [SPEAKER_08]: So you're good at quiet moments, action moments, epic moments,

[01:14:02] [SPEAKER_08]: freaky moments, Tim Van Padden, actor turned director returns.

[01:14:07] [SPEAKER_08]: We get Carrie Goji, Fujim Fukinaga, who you might know from

[01:14:14] [SPEAKER_08]: the director's perspective season one and one of the worst James Bond movies of all time.

[01:14:19] [SPEAKER_08]: He directs the first three episodes.

[01:14:21] [SPEAKER_08]: D-rays, we might know from Bessie and Pariah,

[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_08]: another indie darling comes on here.

[01:14:29] [SPEAKER_08]: And then, and a boat in Ryan Fleck who are also indie darling.

[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_08]: He might know from Half Nilsen and Mississippi Grind.

[01:14:40] [SPEAKER_08]: And it's kind of a story.

[01:14:43] [SPEAKER_08]: Obviously all the millennials only know from Katowarn.

[01:14:45] [SPEAKER_08]: But come on, guys.

[01:14:48] [SPEAKER_08]: That's a merge job.

[01:14:49] [SPEAKER_08]: That's not my vision.

[01:14:51] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, I do this with Scott Harrison.

[01:14:53] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, like there's a reason left Dr. Strings.

[01:14:55] [SPEAKER_08]: That was his mainstream movie that he goes back to doing what he wants to do.

[01:15:00] [SPEAKER_08]: So way more rounded out, developed by

[01:15:04] [SPEAKER_08]: band of brothers, co-writer John O'erloff and Donald L. Miller has been an advisor and various

[01:15:10] [SPEAKER_08]: PBS and HBO stuff.

[01:15:11] [SPEAKER_08]: You know, is the book that we're adapting it from.

[01:15:16] [SPEAKER_08]: And Blombe Hold, co-creator John Shobhan.

[01:15:19] [SPEAKER_08]: He was now currently the Shurunner on Law and Order organized crime,

[01:15:23] [SPEAKER_08]: but you might know from also being a lot of the more unusual breaking bad

[01:15:28] [SPEAKER_08]: and expels episodes.

[01:15:29] [SPEAKER_08]: Now he is that guy.

[01:15:32] [SPEAKER_08]: So this was on April for him.

[01:15:34] [SPEAKER_08]: I was like, whoa, so he is running the writers room this session instead

[01:15:39] [SPEAKER_08]: of having a B just a bunch of quirky characters and a bizarre sci-fi horror premise.

[01:15:48] [SPEAKER_08]: So were you familiar with any of these actors?

[01:15:50] [SPEAKER_08]: I know it was kind of getting hyped up because awesome Butler was really.

[01:15:55] [SPEAKER_12]: It wasn't until it wasn't till like they really started showing like awesome,

[01:16:00] [SPEAKER_12]: but let's show it up.

[01:16:01] [SPEAKER_12]: Like, okay, well he was he was great melalty.

[01:16:04] [SPEAKER_12]: I mean, yeah, you showed them more serious.

[01:16:06] [SPEAKER_12]: I was a little kind of a river.

[01:16:09] [SPEAKER_12]: He was, I was like, who the like he kind came out?

[01:16:13] [SPEAKER_08]: No, where like it's just a Disney kid and then see any of that.

[01:16:19] [SPEAKER_08]: And Harry is now and very good special features for anyone who goes to the Apple plus page

[01:16:26] [SPEAKER_08]: that there's like two different ones that they do a good job of.

[01:16:30] [SPEAKER_08]: It reminds me of the sci-fi channel Bowstar, whether showing you how they.

[01:16:34] [SPEAKER_08]: They're, fortunately we're now in a projected digital world post-mondalorian,

[01:16:39] [SPEAKER_08]: but they're still on actual sets that are shaking to simulate the plane scene.

[01:16:46] [SPEAKER_08]: And even though you know this is CGI, like it worked for me because I just like see it,

[01:16:51] [SPEAKER_08]: but they're rushing it really fast and they're having it serve the story as opposed to looking

[01:16:56] [SPEAKER_08]: half-assed or just trying, just been into much time trying to be like some other recent, you know,

[01:17:05] [SPEAKER_08]: sub genre. My sister recognized Colin Turner who plays Bucky, Egan,

[01:17:13] [SPEAKER_08]: the other major. He's the one who at the end they reveal, you know,

[01:17:17] [SPEAKER_08]: highly ranked, he became kind of the new base supervisor.

[01:17:22] [SPEAKER_08]: But yeah, he's always kind of the flat face. He's just like, well, that doesn't sound

[01:17:27] [SPEAKER_08]: like a good plan, you know? Like people will know him from the capture many series which I still

[01:17:34] [SPEAKER_08]: get to watch as well as fantastic peace. But yeah, awesome about Larry, yeah, it was well now,

[01:17:40] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, Elvis hits and this supposed to kind of come out around that same time. And then

[01:17:45] [SPEAKER_08]: it's like one once of the being all these episodes. But he, I feel like it's a role anyone could

[01:17:52] [SPEAKER_08]: have played Bach but I feel like he was very at home. Like he would... I think you had the look of it.

[01:17:58] [SPEAKER_08]: He kind of had that, yeah, so he's a very classic and kind of looked. Yeah. And they kind of go

[01:18:05] [SPEAKER_08]: back to Band of Brothers where it's like they have their actions speak for themselves. And that

[01:18:11] [SPEAKER_08]: becomes kind of the predictability because at least you feel like the filmmakers, you know,

[01:18:17] [SPEAKER_08]: they it's not like you're on prime time TV and I got a struggle to make this not

[01:18:22] [SPEAKER_08]: in so obviously every week. Like I felt like they were just like, hey, how about we stage it this way,

[01:18:29] [SPEAKER_08]: show the base commander. He's getting his milk and he's just had a heart attack after, and these

[01:18:34] [SPEAKER_08]: guys feel for him even though he just ripped him a new one and they're still mad at him the previous day.

[01:18:39] [SPEAKER_08]: Who's a good man? You know, so I kind of back to the rough and tough in the barracks without being just

[01:18:45] [SPEAKER_08]: so soapy or like no ship sure. Like, you know, like I did experience a lot of questions from family

[01:18:53] [SPEAKER_08]: members like we're and I don't know. I feel like it explained enough for me is like yeah, I mean,

[01:18:59] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm very familiar with the Skiggy. It helps that there's two different movies about them but like

[01:19:04] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah. And yeah, sorry guys, there is not enough. There will never be enough of a apology for

[01:19:15] [SPEAKER_08]: all this we think we think them all the airmen later by having them participated in the experiments.

[01:19:20] [SPEAKER_12]: It was like yeah, that we can never forget that and no, no, and there's not there's yeah,

[01:19:29] [SPEAKER_12]: and unfortunately, I mean the two movies that we do have, I mean they're very different too because

[01:19:35] [SPEAKER_12]: yeah, more Skiggy burn. Here's the actual footage. Yeah, there's actual footage in shows more

[01:19:41] [SPEAKER_12]: horrible like their earlier days whereas red tail shows. Yeah, they're time and theater which

[01:19:48] [SPEAKER_12]: look what we can do with the long and almost red tails. I think it was bad. It tried to be too modern.

[01:19:55] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh yeah, it was bad. But let's have a rap music play because that's a story like accurate.

[01:20:02] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. Yeah, it's like it. It's like oh, God, you guys don't have to be try to be too modernized.

[01:20:10] [SPEAKER_12]: That's let's scale it back. We're the 1940s. Right. Mm. Then work. Yeah, there's not very

[01:20:18] [SPEAKER_08]: out there for them. And interior earlier point like when they when they have to get, we they do a

[01:20:26] [SPEAKER_08]: good job just showing it without again having to ram and honed to you like that their

[01:20:33] [SPEAKER_08]: prisoners are refusing to sit together because of their different rays in life seat. Okay.

[01:20:38] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, no, it's a later lens. Absolutely. They have related only by the fact that they are

[01:20:43] [SPEAKER_08]: Americans who are captured that that the that ends there and it just they did a good job of

[01:20:49] [SPEAKER_08]: really showing it without sugarcoding it and saying, well, they're not all that. Like yeah, well,

[01:20:54] [SPEAKER_08]: some of them probably thinking it. It just was a part of their time. I'm pretty sure

[01:20:58] [SPEAKER_08]: buck didn't want to hang out with them. So let's not wait until I'm talking about who he does or

[01:21:03] [SPEAKER_08]: doesn't want to hang out with. Let's just focus on what is fascinating about these guys. And

[01:21:09] [SPEAKER_08]: I saw so I could do not like opening week when it came out. I saw so many people roasting the show.

[01:21:16] [SPEAKER_08]: I saw people's yeah, I saw one person saying, I can tell anyone apart.

[01:21:23] [SPEAKER_12]: I'm not really okay. Whatever. I knew my problems with it. I think me personally,

[01:21:30] [SPEAKER_12]: I think what we were kind of promised with it dinner. I mean, I mean, the moments

[01:21:36] [SPEAKER_12]: I guess all I tell you about like episode three just wait to episode three guys. That's where

[01:21:41] [SPEAKER_12]: kids off and then you have the one mission. Where you doing it once a week or yeah. Okay,

[01:21:47] [SPEAKER_08]: this is where you go. My problem is I binge. Okay. Yeah, once a week I was right there.

[01:21:55] [SPEAKER_08]: Me and my buddy like we all go on. I think the first two going on about it. They shouldn't just

[01:22:00] [SPEAKER_08]: the first two episodes be the pilot. I think probably gun people more of a fill instead of

[01:22:06] [SPEAKER_08]: after a good. I've with this. I'm just glad I did two and I just because I would have again had trouble

[01:22:12] [SPEAKER_08]: remembering everybody's name. And so I felt like they did too many shortcuts. And I guess I

[01:22:19] [SPEAKER_08]: forgot it just because just for a way to the town aside. Let's just say you don't know who this is

[01:22:25] [SPEAKER_08]: and everything. I just felt like regardless of what they'd literally done, I just felt like they were

[01:22:30] [SPEAKER_08]: actually trying to the like a better word like just get the feeling down. Just be as anti-aircraft

[01:22:38] [SPEAKER_08]: as they can. It's like these fuckers are going down. There's no priding going up there. They're

[01:22:43] [SPEAKER_08]: gonna be toast by the end of the battle. So I didn't feel like it was a top gun knockoff or anything

[01:22:50] [SPEAKER_12]: there's like, no man, I mean the boner pilots too. So it's now if it was more about like the fire

[01:23:02] [SPEAKER_12]: pods, they definitely like that was a personality help them too. And what's important.

[01:23:07] [SPEAKER_08]: One of the flirting with people but I liked how the nurses had a little more to do here instead

[01:23:12] [SPEAKER_08]: of just being easy lay. In fact, one of them I guess didn't they say Bucky had to grow at home?

[01:23:20] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah. There you go. Sorry I'm shooting overseas.

[01:23:24] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, I mean there's different time. I mean we're in front of the club and next day.

[01:23:28] [SPEAKER_12]: I love with a French girl. Like, wait. You went into your strange half-brother and sister, you know.

[01:23:36] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh Jesus. There's that could have happened. I don't know. I can't follow the

[01:23:42] [SPEAKER_12]: surgeon, my mom, Korea. So you know, the wall, it's a wall.

[01:23:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Making him, I just saw your spillberg.

[01:23:53] [SPEAKER_08]: A little bit of a joy who.

[01:23:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Also, here's where it kind of becomes a spy show halfway through.

[01:24:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, that's by the way. You can't even name the right baseball game. You know, you're the spy.

[01:24:08] [SPEAKER_08]: So that guy a little convoluted for me but I did go back and rewatch some of it. I was like,

[01:24:12] [SPEAKER_08]: see, I like the staging of that. But yeah. Yeah, you're going to go.

[01:24:17] [SPEAKER_12]: You did kind of get that what the fuck moment think. Oh shit.

[01:24:20] [SPEAKER_12]: Oh, um. I really do wish they got more airtime. I really wish we did, man. I don't.

[01:24:30] [SPEAKER_12]: The thing with the prisoners, like yeah, that's you know, that's cool because you have these

[01:24:34] [SPEAKER_12]: first two characters. You're kind of hanging on like, coolly fire. But it seemed like

[01:24:40] [SPEAKER_12]: it became more of a prisoner of war stories than a bomber crew. Yeah.

[01:24:48] [SPEAKER_12]: And it was like, I'm just going to watch. That like 17 instead.

[01:24:54] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. And I heard a lot of people compare this to Memphis Bell and this bell is in the

[01:25:01] [SPEAKER_12]: other store for the accurate, but at least here with the crew. Yeah, I think it was just,

[01:25:07] [SPEAKER_08]: it was more what it the conversation had opened versus the historical relevance of

[01:25:13] [SPEAKER_08]: this very little. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. It was in it. This is weird. That's kind of like a

[01:25:19] [SPEAKER_08]: ternetino. Like ternetino doesn't exist without all the tasteless driving movies. You know?

[01:25:26] [SPEAKER_08]: So when these movies is like, yeah, you're going to compare to what came before. There's got to be

[01:25:31] [SPEAKER_08]: one side. I mean, look at all the virtual reality movies. Look at all the other just

[01:25:35] [SPEAKER_08]: horror anthologies that got to write in others that were just gross and yucky and annoying

[01:25:40] [SPEAKER_08]: to time. And so yeah, I feel like war movies. Everybody seemed like an out of them just because

[01:25:44] [SPEAKER_08]: they were just show prominently on and tennet channels. And kind of like how I was with Pacific. I

[01:25:51] [SPEAKER_08]: can see how you are with this. Whereas there's just so many 12 o'clock high type movies. Where

[01:25:55] [SPEAKER_08]: you're just like, yeah, I've seen it. Good job on the cost of phobia, but like you say not really

[01:26:01] [SPEAKER_12]: enough of it. So I will give you that. Yeah. Like the when the interiors, the P51s, like why

[01:26:07] [SPEAKER_12]: just have an episode about the P51s? What's or yeah, their operations. It's just he here and

[01:26:14] [SPEAKER_12]: like you could have really done a lot more with them. So you meet them. They're flying P40s,

[01:26:21] [SPEAKER_12]: which they did. They float. And that was Italy that that swathra is based out of. They do illustrate

[01:26:26] [SPEAKER_08]: the maps and everything. But I will give you this. Did anyone else you were watching this get

[01:26:32] [SPEAKER_08]: a little confused about the how they kept track of the various flights? I felt like they kind

[01:26:37] [SPEAKER_12]: of skipped over a lot of that key detail. And I think they did think their first mission that

[01:26:42] [SPEAKER_12]: they were playing, it was kind of neat to show the different stacks and which altitude, the bomber

[01:26:47] [SPEAKER_08]: stacks were in. I was like, they did get that outlining the plans and making you the viewer feel

[01:26:53] [SPEAKER_08]: like you're trapped in that isolated, you know, grim room. He heard these guys are all either losing

[01:26:58] [SPEAKER_08]: their lunch or just had too many drinks and they still got to get their shipping. They're good

[01:27:03] [SPEAKER_12]: put for tomorrow. Pretty much every book I read about pilots, like there's one time of

[01:27:08] [SPEAKER_12]: the date drop, they're hung over and you know they're there craft and they suck on the oxygen so

[01:27:13] [SPEAKER_12]: they could sober up. Oh, just yes. I mean, yeah, some of the greatest aces of all time are

[01:27:20] [SPEAKER_08]: we didn't know about bio hacking or how you should warm up before you go for a jog.

[01:27:28] [SPEAKER_12]: No, no, I'm smoke a cigarette. You know, take a shot of whiskey and you're good to go.

[01:27:32] [SPEAKER_12]: But they did have, but this will they did do? Like they came in from your flight.

[01:27:37] [SPEAKER_12]: You use a shot of whiskey, calmingers. Don't know that's made at least sound now,

[01:27:43] [SPEAKER_08]: but hey, it worked. It worked. I think it helped that also major red as well as the various

[01:27:55] [SPEAKER_08]: plans fucked. So it's like, okay, cool. You're not sugar coating it. You're not having the whole,

[01:28:00] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, cut to, oh no, no, no, no, you know, trumpets. Yeah, can't win this. It was like,

[01:28:06] [SPEAKER_08]: well, no shit, you can't win this. Just to tell us how and why. Right. Like, okay,

[01:28:13] [SPEAKER_12]: book just look pouty into the screen and look off in the flag. Right. It's like, yeah,

[01:28:21] [SPEAKER_12]: I didn't appreciate how they did what they did show with like Rosie Rosenthal.

[01:28:25] [SPEAKER_12]: And then how like he came like, and the book content and his part of his

[01:28:30] [SPEAKER_12]: version of missions is everyone dies around you and you have to make it back. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

[01:28:35] [SPEAKER_08]: okay. So and what Scott Squadron was he again, he was. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

[01:28:41] [SPEAKER_08]: there's there's a part of the squad that jumps out and he's the height in the farms. So

[01:28:45] [SPEAKER_08]: I did like that as back because I don't really see enough of it. I see some of it, but it's

[01:28:50] [SPEAKER_08]: an often reserved for movies that are all about the stealth and the infiltration.

[01:28:55] [SPEAKER_08]: Like something like defiance or some other Navarro movie, and I liked out there having to,

[01:29:01] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, bucky by the last two episodes is having to pretend to play dead well. And then

[01:29:07] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, in between interactions, you know, in between local, I liked how there was accidental

[01:29:15] [SPEAKER_08]: bombings, there's like there's an actual accountability of hey, there's going to be

[01:29:19] [SPEAKER_08]: friendly fire or actual civilians getting killed as a post-actual Germans.

[01:29:26] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah, and then the shy away from showing that this is a war. So when they get down there and

[01:29:31] [SPEAKER_08]: angry Bob is there is like you rape us, you pillagers, you should adapt, we're going to shank you.

[01:29:38] [SPEAKER_12]: I'm like, well, I'm nothing, I'm not going to say in the way of you guys getting killed,

[01:29:40] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, you're not eventually. But when they have to pretend to play dead,

[01:29:48] [SPEAKER_08]: run like hell into the woods like Jesus. Yeah. And then you and now you have to try

[01:29:53] [SPEAKER_08]: if anyway, I felt that rock in it.

[01:30:00] [SPEAKER_08]: The music was just right instead of the

[01:30:03] [SPEAKER_08]: cut to slow motion. It was more of a sense.

[01:30:11] [SPEAKER_12]: Exactly. Thank you. I mean, you could be worse, could be like new metal.

[01:30:20] [SPEAKER_08]: Or you know, Lincoln Parker something. Oh, hello, Lincoln Parker. But yeah,

[01:30:24] [SPEAKER_08]: that would have such don't play it like a part in a movie or this.

[01:30:28] [SPEAKER_12]: Michael Bay, director of the episode.

[01:30:32] [SPEAKER_08]: He would have probably played, I don't know, poison or

[01:30:41] [SPEAKER_12]: you're like, I was going on.

[01:30:43] [SPEAKER_12]: Michael Bay back in the corner. I replaced it with the toys.

[01:30:47] [SPEAKER_08]: I originally just did some of the energy gal on glass. I wasn't that way.

[01:30:51] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. You can't see them too.

[01:30:57] [SPEAKER_12]: But yeah, I mean, there had moments and it's not a bad series. Like said directed badly,

[01:31:03] [SPEAKER_12]: it's not written. I mean, maybe they didn't market it at that. It's a shutter.

[01:31:06] [SPEAKER_12]: I just wish there was, well, I was expecting. I guess I got my hopes up because I am an air pot.

[01:31:13] [SPEAKER_08]: I love like, no, it's fine. I felt that to skit you were going to be a bigger part and they

[01:31:17] [SPEAKER_08]: left them for the third part of the tell because I felt that they and they were very short. It's

[01:31:22] [SPEAKER_12]: like so you get your P40s. You should sort of go into your town of backgrounds and then you

[01:31:25] [SPEAKER_12]: get in Piffy to ones. Granted, that squadron that they focused on was operating in Southern Mania,

[01:31:32] [SPEAKER_12]: so they went up hooked up with the bombers, but the whole story of it's a CEM and was their

[01:31:38] [SPEAKER_12]: dedication to the bomber. So why didn't we not focus on the squadron and that did that?

[01:31:46] [SPEAKER_12]: Like that's not cool.

[01:31:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Okay, not cool. I mean, so anyways, I feel like these are kind of all parts of the same coin.

[01:31:54] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean, you can get this with Vietnam theme movies by Elderstone, which one is best,

[01:31:59] [SPEAKER_08]: which one is this because I was that way with plenty of woodsy with Gema double feature.

[01:32:03] [SPEAKER_08]: It was like, okay, I didn't learn anything. I didn't already know it from flags,

[01:32:07] [SPEAKER_08]: but letters. Oh, I was crying and talking about it for days.

[01:32:11] [SPEAKER_12]: It's the aspect, the angle, the perspective. In fact, it's focusing on the Japanese as to the Americans

[01:32:17] [SPEAKER_08]: and Americans. I'd sure the Native American guy who helped raise the flag. That was cool.

[01:32:23] [SPEAKER_08]: I, the rest was just seeing bad CGI destroyers getting blown apart. So I just like,

[01:32:29] [SPEAKER_12]: yeah, and then he had Ken Walthanabi, which he's always a treat.

[01:32:32] [SPEAKER_08]: That man is a method. I'm very happy.

[01:32:37] [SPEAKER_08]: You could tell me anything was going to roll.

[01:32:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Like, he actually worked with, like, I don't know that you could use a samurai. I would believe it.

[01:32:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Right. Yeah.

[01:32:48] [SPEAKER_08]: When he's having to go home and instruct that soldier,

[01:32:51] [SPEAKER_08]: he will now kill the dog so that you have no distractions. I'm like, good fucking god.

[01:32:57] [SPEAKER_12]: You acting hours.

[01:33:00] [SPEAKER_12]: He done this before.

[01:33:01] [SPEAKER_08]: And then how only he can kill himself is like, nope, I'm not going to give you that satisfaction.

[01:33:06] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm escaping his whole. Just the cold reality difference perspectives of it was just

[01:33:14] [SPEAKER_08]: and don't even run. War movies are hard. I think audiences are getting callas because they

[01:33:19] [SPEAKER_12]: want blood and guts and no material. And the entire world is explaining around us with

[01:33:27] [SPEAKER_12]: multiple wars. We just kind of, there's gimmicks. And then there's sometimes I work sometimes.

[01:33:31] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. I think that's why World War II kind of works because they're so far removed from that time.

[01:33:39] [SPEAKER_08]: We're removed. Then we're also kind of, I kind of look at it this way. Like,

[01:33:45] [SPEAKER_08]: you know, you can really really fuck out really bad. Yeah. World War II,

[01:33:50] [SPEAKER_08]: you can do a good one or bad one and no one cares either way. It's just an entertainment at this point.

[01:33:55] [SPEAKER_12]: And I think there's because there still be a nom better in the live. It's yes.

[01:34:01] [SPEAKER_12]: Whereas World War II, they're starting to, uh,

[01:34:05] [SPEAKER_12]: they're not around that, that may have a heranity anymore. I mean, it's hard to believe that how

[01:34:11] [SPEAKER_08]: what was like how does these of war actually got blasted at the time. Like people were just like,

[01:34:15] [SPEAKER_08]: that's a fucking garbage movie. Even though it was recounting an actual hate crime committed by

[01:34:21] [SPEAKER_08]: soldiers. And then you get other ones like we were soldiers where they detailed some of it,

[01:34:26] [SPEAKER_08]: but to kind of like a little more and like I kind of would like to see more of the vehicle.

[01:34:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Instead of just like to see um I'm just gonna danger close. Yes, with Travis Fimble.

[01:34:37] [SPEAKER_12]: Yeah. I enjoyed it. Um my family's Australian, or part of Australian. And I had an

[01:34:45] [SPEAKER_12]: whole this or how do you made the Australian military. Yeah. Oh, I'm a month going through.

[01:34:51] [SPEAKER_08]: He will probably like attack force C. I take it. What is it? Attack force C, which is a World War

[01:34:58] [SPEAKER_08]: II movie. Okay. So we're not, which within all Australian cast, including a young

[01:35:03] [SPEAKER_08]: fellow Gibson in Sam Hill and and there and they're fighting in the Philippines again. But

[01:35:10] [SPEAKER_08]: next door short is better known as the movie that made the cinematographer of predator good on

[01:35:14] [SPEAKER_08]: Hollywood's map. Yeah. I'll try to tell him down. But it's a very occur a curse saw of kind of

[01:35:22] [SPEAKER_08]: 7 Samurai movie. They come into a village and they we're in a shop but I feel like a lot of movies

[01:35:29] [SPEAKER_08]: go for that inevitable angle and sometimes they're good and other times you're like yeah,

[01:35:33] [SPEAKER_08]: it's not holding my interest, but it was pretty brutal in those last 30 minutes.